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    It is ludicrous unless he does what Spicer said he was going to do which is let it "expire" in June. So, it's June, it's time to "expire" it, to do whatever needs to be done to "expire" it, which means end it once and for all.
    I've heard nothing in regards to the program expiring except the one passing sentence Spicer made a month or two ago. Honestly, I think he was uninformed, mispoke, or was just attempting to temporarily take the heat of the White House on DACA. I've not heard or seen anything else on a June expiration anywhere else. If the program was set to expire this month, I'm 99.9% sure we would have heard something more about it by now.

    If you have more information on this June expiration date, I'm sure we would all love to see it.
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    I posted tons of information on it and am not going through that again. If they let it expire, then they'll shut it down on June 15th. We'll see what they do. If they do, the less said the better. This DACA 2012 is within the authority of John Kelly as Secretary of DHS to end since it was Janet Napolitano who directed it by MEMO to begin with. Just disable the system. Easy Peasy to end it, just disable the website and let the work permits expire on their due dates. That should seriously reduce the lawsuits. No announcement is required, no big Presidential EO Signing, no big production. Just call IT in DHS and disable the website. If press asks, just tell them, Obama's 3 year renewal expired on June 15th and the President is not interested in renewing or extending it.
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    It should have ended day one. It was expected. The President continuing to give amnesty, legalization and a path to citizenship too, has given strength to those who want the big amnesty (Republicans and Democrats). How can he say it is fine to allow the "dreamers" cleared under DACA presently and leave the others that could qualify on the outside. The proposed plan is to include the family members, to not separate families.

    Even if this administration ends new applicants, we still have millions of illegal aliens who could remain when you add up family members.

    Please keep your word President Trump. End DACA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    I posted tons of information on it and am not going through that again. If they let it expire, then they'll shut it down on June 15th. We'll see what they do. If they do, the less said the better. This DACA 2012 is within the authority of John Kelly as Secretary of DHS to end since it was Janet Napolitano who directed it by MEMO to begin with. Just disable the system. Easy Peasy to end it, just disable the website and let the work permits expire on their due dates. That should seriously reduce the lawsuits. No announcement is required, no big Presidential EO Signing, no big production. Just call IT in DHS and disable the website. If press asks, just tell them, Obama's 3 year renewal expired on June 15th and the President is not interested in renewing or extending it.
    Well, I must have missed that so-called "ton" of information. Like I said, I heard Spicer say something about it a month or so ago in passing. Other than that, I've seen nothing else on a expiration date coming from the White House. I'm afraid anyone that believes DACA is going to end on June 15th is going to be extremely disappointed.

    Trump has pretty much said he's going to take care of the DACA folks. His ultimate goal, in my opinion, is to offer them a permanent path to legalization and citizenship. All he's waiting for is a bill from the U.S. Congress. It's time to face the facts, President Trump is going to screw us on DACA (actually he already has). The signals coming from Trump and the White House on this have been pretty clear.

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    Maybe he will take care of them, I sure hope not though. They all need to be on the run, in the shadows, packing their bags, and on the list for deportation.
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    Just a motion with no true benefit in my opinion. DAPA has already been rejected by the courts.

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    No, DAPA was not rejected by the courts, MW, neither was the DACA Expansion. An injunction pending a trial on the merits was upheld by the Courts. Now that the program that led to the lawsuit has been revoked, the lawsuit becomes moot and will be dismissed.

    There was no court ruling on the merits of the case pertaining to the programs ordered in 2014, only an injunction to stop them from implementation pending a trial. Now that the orders for the programs that were part of the lawsuit have been "expired" and revoked, no trial is needed, and everything is back to where it was prior to the 2014 Obama Order. The case will now be dismissed without a trial because the issues at the heart of it have been revoked, no longer exist, and are now moot.
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