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    Poll: 62% of US voters oppose Obama's plan to mainstream illegal immigrants

    Obama heads to Chicago to pitch immigration steps while Ferguson burns – as poll shows 62 per cent of voters oppose his plan to mainstream illegal immigrants


    • Trip was scheduled before chaos took over streets of St. Louis suburb
    • But Obama risks being seen as tone deaf by pushing for an unpopular policy objective in the midst of a national emergency
    • Rasmussen poll shows a massive majority of likely voters – 62 per cent – oppose his plan to give millions of illegal immigrants a temporary amnesty
    • Obama plan also includes work permits for millions not currently allowed to hold US jobs
    • Only 24 per cent now say Obama has the legal authority to change immigration policy without agreement from Congress
    • A 55-per cent majority believe federal lawmakers should challenge him in court

    By David Martosko, US Political Editor for MailOnline and Associated Press
    Published: 02:21 EST, 25 November 2014 | Updated: 19:49 EST, 25 November 2014


    President Barack Obama is returning Tuesday to the city where he says he first forged his ties to the Latino community to pitch his new executive actions on immigration, on a day when a suburb of St. Louis is recovering from massive overnight riots 300 miles away.
    The president's decision to give an expected lengthy speech in the Windy City after devoting just nine minutes Monday night to calling for calm in Ferguson, Missouri, will open him up to criticism that he's both insensitive and politically tone deaf.
    He said Monday night in response to a single question he took from a reporter at the White House that no decision has been made about whether he will visit Ferguson personally.
    But his interest in barnstorming to generate interest in his immigration policy obsession comes as a new poll shows a large majority of likely U.S. voters believe he's wrong.
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    President Barack Obama took off for Chicago a day after a Ferguson, Missouri grand jury decided not to indict police officer Darren Wilson in the shooting death of Michael Brown


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    NOT JUST MISSOURI: Chicago protesters came out in large numbers on Monday night, underscoring that the city's Democratic base may be more interested in the Michael Brown case than in immigration reform

    Obama, the onetime community organizer, is trying to seize the advantage in the heated dispute over the contentious issue while Congress is on a Thanksgiving recess and Republicans scramble to coalesce behind a unified opposition strategy.
    The Rasmussen poll released Monday afternoon and lost in the overwhelming news coverage of the Ferguson riots found that 62 per cent oppose Obama's decision to grant legal amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants without approval from Congress.
    Just 26 per cent are in favor of Obama's plan.
    After years of claiming he couldn't act unilaterally to enact immigration reform because of the U.S. Constitution's emphasis on a separation of executive and legislative powers, Obama declared last week that he had the legal authority to do so on a temporary basis.
    Only 24 per cent of those who spoke to Rasmussen's pollsters agree.
    Fifty-seven per cent said he was right the first time, deciding that he not have the legal right to implement his plan.



    Worse for the White House, 55 per cent told Rasmussen that Congress should challenge Obama's executive actions in court.
    The president spoke Chicago community leaders, part of an ongoing effort to defend and promote his decision to bypass Congress and direct sweeping executive actions that could spare millions of immigrants illegally in the United States from being deported.
    His plan also threatens to open the employment floodgates as those temporarily 'legal' immigrants win eligibility for work authorization cards.
    MailOnline reviewed polling data that indicates Americans are even more upset about the prospect of losing jobs to illegal immigrants at a time when the overall U.S. labor participation rate is its lowest since 1978.
    Obama said Monday night that a presidential visit to Ferguson is still an open question.
    'Let’s take a look and see how things are going,' the president said Monday night at the White House. [Attorney General] Eric Holder has been there. We've had a whole team from the Justice Department there, and I think that they have done some very good work.'
    Obama will speak in Chicago at a center in the city's predominantly Polish-American far northwest side, underscoring how his immigration measures would affect more than Latino immigrants. Chicago has the largest population of Poles in the United States.
    Under a series of measures Obama announced last week, nearly 5 million immigrants will be eligible to avoid deportation and sign up for work permits. The number who could benefit represents about 45 percent of the total number of immigrants who either entered the country illegally or have overstayed their visas.
    Republicans have vowed to rein Obama in, but have not fallen behind any specific plan.

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    SEEYA: Obama will dodge controversy by speaking 300 miles away from Ferguson

    Obama speaks to the people of Ferguson after grand jury






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    Rioters set police cars like this one ablaze on Monday night after a grand jury declined to indict police officer Darren Wilson in the shooting death of 18-year-old Michael Brown


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    SIGNS OF THE TIMES: The Ferguson protests came the Obama's doorstep last night as activists with pre-printed signs converged on the White House shortly after the president delivered brief remarks

    Chicago is Obama's hometown – he worked in the city as a community organizer in the 1980s – and its metropolitan area has the fifth largest Latino population in the country.
    Obama is expected to highlight what the White House says are the economic advantages of his executive decision and to counter Republican criticism that his measures exceed his authority. The Chicago visit is his second trip out of Washington to draw attention to his actions since he announced them Thursday. Last Friday, the president spoke in Las Vegas, another city with a large Latino population.
    Obama has a mixed history in Chicago over the question of immigration. He conceded in his 2006 book 'The Audacity of Hope' that his experiences there led him to reflect on the meaning of citizenship and 'my sometimes conflicted feelings about all the changes that are taking place.'
    In 2006, when he was a senator from Illinois, he denied a request from about 30 Mexican nationals living in Chicago for a special piece of legislation that would protect them from deportation. The decision infuriated immigration activists in the city.
    But Obama has also backed an overhaul of immigration law, and while he initially angered advocacy groups by delaying his executive actions until after this month's midterm elections, last week's measures have generally been greeted with enthusiasm from immigration advocates and Latino groups.
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    Huh, only 62%. I expected the number to be much higher. I've got serveral liberal friends and not a single one of them agree with Obama's amnesty.

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    Voters Strongly Oppose Obama's Amnesty Plan for Illegal Immigrants


    Monday, November 24, 2014

    Most voters oppose President Obama's reported plan to unilaterally grant amnesty to several million illegal immigrants and think Congress should challenge him in court if he goes ahead with it.

    A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 62% of Likely U.S. Voters oppose the president granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants without the approval of Congress. Just 26% are in favor of Obama's plan, while 12% are undecided. (To see survey question wording,click here.)
    Only 24% think the president has the legal authority to grant amnesty to these illegal immigrants without Congress’ approval. Fifty-seven percent (57%) believe the president does not have the legal right to do so. Eighteen percent (18%) are undecided.
    If the president does grant amnesty to several million illegals, 55% of voters think Congress should challenge that action in court. Thirty percent (30%) disagree, while 14% are undecided.
    Fifty-five percent (55%) of voters believe that when it comes to dealing with issues the president considers important to the nation, the government should only do what the president and Congress agree on. Thirty-five percent (35%) think Obama should take action alone if Congress does not approve the initiatives he has proposed. When it comes to his executive actions, a plurality (44%) thinks Obama has been less faithful to the U.S. Constitution than most other presidents.
    Consistent with surveying for years, two-out-of-three voters (67%) think securing the border to prevent future illegal immigration should come before amnesty is granted for some illegal immigrants already in this country. Just 26% believe amnesty should come first.
    (Want a free daily e-mail update? If it's in the news, it's in our polls). Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook.
    The survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted on August 28-29, 2014 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.
    Congressional Republicans are already suing the president for changes he made in the new health care law, saying he does not have the constitutional authority to change legislation passed by Congress. Most voters agree the president does not have the right to change laws without Congress’ approval, but they doubt the lawsuit will stop him from acting on his own.
    Most voters think the president wants the latest wave of illegal immigrants to stay in this country despite majority support for their quick deportation.
    Forty-seven percent (47%) of Democrats favor the president acting alone to grant amnesty to several million illegal immigrants. Ninety percent (90%) of Republicans and 65% of voters not affiliated with either party are opposed. Still, less than half of Democrats (46%) think the president has the legal right to take such action.
    Eighty-four percent (84%) of GOP voters and 59% of unaffiliateds think Congress should challenge the president in court if he does grant this amnesty, but only 27% of Democrats agree. Fifty-three percent (53%) of voters in the president's party oppose such a lawsuit, but 20% are undecided about it.
    However, 50% of Democrats agree with 88% of Republicans and 66% of unaffiliated voters that securing the border should come before any amnesty.
    Most voters across nearly all demographic categories put securing the border first.
    Fifty-seven percent (57%) of all voters favor a comprehensive immigration reform plan that would give legal status to those who entered the country illegally but have otherwise obeyed the law – if the border is really secured to prevent future illegal immigration. The problem for immigration reformers is that only 33% think it’s even somewhat likely that the federal government will actually secure the border, with seven percent (7%) who say it’s Very Likely.
    Sixty-one percent (61%) of Mainstream voters think Congress should challenge the president in court if he goes through with his amnesty plan, but just 37% of the Political Class agree.
    Seventy-nine percent (79%) of all voters have been following recent news reports about the president and illegal immigration, including 42% who have been following Very Closely.
    Immigration reform is just one of many issues that Obama and Republicans in Congress publically disagree on. But just 20% of voters think the opposition between the two is mostly due to honest differences of opinion, while 69% say it’s mostly due to partisan politics.Yet on most major policy issues, our surveying regularly finds that there is a wide difference of opinion between Democratic and Republican voters.
    Sixty-seven percent (67%) of all voters say America is a more divided nation than it was four years ago, and they think both sides are to blame.
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    Huh, only 62%. I expected the number to be much higher. I've got serveral liberal friends and not a single one of them agree with Obama's amnesty.
    Well, you have to remember that there's a lot of Lou Dobbs types around, who oppose illegal immigration and want to stop it, but childishly believe the traitors and morons who say we can't deport them, when of course we can, it's no big deal really, it's about 15 illegal aliens per police officer in the US, so it's not only doable, it's affordable, actually won't cost a dime and is what we should do and do it pronto. Besides once we start deportation, most will go home on their own anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Well, you have to remember that there's a lot of Lou Dobbs types around, who oppose illegal immigration and want to stop it, but childishly believe the traitors and morons who say we can't deport them, when of course we can, it's no big deal really, it's about 15 illegal aliens per police officer in the US, so it's not only doable, it's affordable, actually won't cost a dime and is what we should do and do it pronto. Besides once we start deportation, most will go home on their own anyway.
    Heck, many of them would go home on their own if we would just stop allowing them to work here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Heck, many of them would go home on their own if we would just stop allowing them to work here.
    Correct you are, MW! Hey, I bet alot would go home if we just told them they can't stay! Do the Mexicans know the Mexico unemployment rate is only 4.78%, which is much lower than ours?

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