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    President Trump Pushes for More Foreign Guest Workers, H2-Bs, Migrant Farm Workers at

    President Trump Pushes for More Foreign Guest Workers, H2-Bs, Migrant Farm Workers at Michigan Rally




    April 29, 2018

    John Binder


    As Breitbart News reports, Trump said:

    And for the farmers, okay, it’s going to get good. And we’re going to let your guest workers come in because we’re going to have strong borders, but we have to have your workers come in. You know, the unemployment picture is so good, it’s so strong that we have to let people come in. They’re going to be guest workers, they’re going to come in, they’re going to work on your farms, we’re going to have the H-2Bs come in, we’re going to have a lot of things happening but then they have to go out. Then they have to go out. But, we’re going to let them in, ‘cause you need them. You need them. [Emphasis added]


    We need people to be able to come into our country, do your jobs, help you on the farms, and then they go out, they’re going to leave. Guest workers, we’re going to take care of that. Guest workers. Don’t we agree? We have to have them. We have to have them. [Emphasis added]


    The H-2B visa brings foreign nationals to the U.S. for low-skilled nonagricultural jobs, as Breitbart News has previously reported. The visa impacts working-class and poor Americans most, as labor jobs in the hotel industry, water parks, retail stores, and restaurants can all be outsourced to foreign workers under the program. Foreign workers using H-2B visas took roughly half a million jobs in the U.S. during the last five years.

    Trump’s promotion of more imported foreign workers to the U.S. using the H-2B visa comes as the Republican-controlled Congress has allowed the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to import potentially 130,000 foreign workers for the big business lobby. Trump, in signing the spending measure, gives DHS the authority to import more foreign workers, should DHS Secretary Nielsen choose to do so.


    Nielsen, who worked for former President George W. Bush, has already suggested that she will allow big business to import more foreign workers, as Breitbart News reported.
    “The concept of limitations on H-2B [visas] originally were to protect American workers,” Nielsen said weeks ago. “If, however, we are in a situation where the way in which we administer the program, legally, actually puts American businesses out of business, that clearly is not the intent.”


    If the H-2B visa is expanded this year by Trump’s DHS, it will be the second year in a row that the Trump administration imported more seasonal foreign workers despite his “Buy American, Hire American” agenda.


    As Breitbart News has reported, the H-2B visa — like other mass migration programs that import foreign workers to take U.S. jobs — has contributed to stagnant and even reduced wages for America’s working class.

    Wage Data: Businesses Using H-2B Visa as Cheap, Foreign Labor Program https://t.co/ENWKO7iPDq

    — John Binder �� (@JxhnBinder) November 1, 2017


    Analysis of the H-2B visa and its impact on U.S. wages reveals the gap between what foreign workers are offered for U.S. jobs versus what Americans are paid to do the same work.


    Overall, in eight of the ten occupations analyzed, where H-2B foreign workers are brought to the U.S., employers offered the foreign workers lower wages, further solidifying pro-American workers’ groups claims that foreign worker visa programs are used by businesses to import and outsource U.S. jobs to a cheaper, foreign workforce.



    • H-2B foreign workers in landscaping were offered nearly 7.5 percent less pay
    • H-2B foreign workers in forest and conservation jobs were offered nearly 24 percent less pay
    • H-2B foreign workers in housekeeping jobs were offered nearly 6 percent less pay
    • H-2B foreign workers in recreation jobs were offered nearly 14 percent less pay
    • H-2B foreign workers in meat and fish cutting jobs were offered nearly 19 percent less pay
    • H-2B foreign workers in construction were offered more than 20 percent less pay
    • H-2B foreign workers in counter attending jobs were offered more than 6 percent less pay
    • H-2B foreign workers in labor and moving jobs were offered nearly 4 percent less pay



    Further research by the Economic Policy Institute has shown how wages in the top 15 H-2B jobs in the U.S. have been stagnant or slightly decreased over the last decade, as Breitbart News reported.



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    Trump plans to make changes to the H2B visa program, making it less likely to be used. He may have already made some of these changes.
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    Well, looks like the corporations, agricultural industry, and big business interest finally got their Huckleberry. It was only a matter of time before the "cheap labor" interest finally won out. After all Trump has always been one of them even though he pretended not to be. Trump flips and flops more than a fish out of water.

    I guess we can hope he is being insincere and is only saying this to appease those he's speaking to. Of course if that's true, it doesn't say much for his true character. He needs to remain consistent in his messaging.
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    NO FOREIGN WORKERS!

    THEY CAN BUY FARM EQUIPMENT AND AUTOMATE! THEY CAN WRITE IT OFF IN THE FIRST YEAR!

    15% PRIVILGE TAX WITH EMPLOYER MATCHING FROM EACH FOREIGN WORKER! ALL FUNDS GO INTO OUR SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE. THEY GET NONE OF IT!!!
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    I went back and listened to his speech again because when I listened to it last night I didn't hear the "more". I still don't hear the "more". I don't think he ever said "more". There's no "more" in the Breitbart quotes of Trump either. So don't know why Breitbart chose to put the word "more" in their headline. I guess to get clicks. Shame.
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    If all illegals were deported as promised, then I could see importing temporary guest workers. BUT THE DEPORTATION OF ILLEGAL ALIENS DID NOT HAPPEN AND TRUMP IS ADDING QUEST WORKERS ON TOP OF THE 12 MILLION ALIENS. He is officially a swamp creature!
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    Trump officials open border to 15,000 more foreign workers - The ...
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    Jul 17, 2017 - The Department of Homeland Security on Monday announced a one-time increase of 15,000 additional visas for low-wage seasonal workers for the remainder of this fiscal year, a seeming about-face from President Trump's "Hire American" rhetoric, following heavy lobbying from fisheries, hospitality and ...
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    Trump says U.S. to 'let your guest workers come in' in appeal to farmers

    "For the farmers, OK, it's going to get good.
    We're going to let your guest workers come in," Trump said.

    y Jonathan Allen / Apr.28.2018 / 9:41 PM ET
    U.S. President Donald Trump arrives to speak at a Make America Great Again Rally in Washington, Michigan April 28, 2018.

    JOSHUA ROBERTS / Reuters


    WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP, Mich. — President Donald Trump said Saturday that he would let more guest workers into the U.S. to help farmers whom he said may suffer "a little pain for a little while" because of his own efforts to renegotiate trade deals with several foreign partners.


    "For the farmers, OK, it's going to get good," he said at a political rally here, about a 45-minute drive north of Detroit. "We're going to let your guest workers come in."


    That could come as a shock to the portion of Trump's base that is most ardently critical of the current U.S. immigration system.

    For months, the president and his top White House advisers have been promoting a rewrite of the nation's immigration laws that would make it harder — not easier — for low-skilled workers to come into the country.


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    But Trump essentially contended that bringing in cheap labor under the H2B visa system — which allows only for temporary entry into the country — won't hurt U.S. workers because there aren't enough available hands for farmers now.

    "The unemployment picture is so good, it's so strong, that we have to let people come in," he said. "They're going to be guest workers. They're going to come in, they're going to work on your farms ... but then they have to go out."


    The plan didn't appear to be a hit with his audience.

    While they cheered his tough talk on border security — and chanted "build the wall" in reference to the border barrier he wants to erect between the U.S. and Mexico — he got lackluster applause when he asked what the crowd thought of the temporary-worker proposal.

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