Thread: President's spokesman says he'll look into Social Security

Almost posted this under the thread we have re social security but I have a feeling there's going to be a lot of such articles so putting this one separate.

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53658

Snow promises to research WND questions
President's spokesman says he'll look into Social Security for illegals

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Posted: January 6, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern



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President Bush's spokesman says he doesn't have the answer to every question for instant response, but he'll prepare information for a WND question about illegal aliens qualifying for Social Security benefits.

At a presidential press briefing, Les Kinsolving, WND's correspondent at the White House, asked about the issue on which WND reported earlier.

"This morning The Washington Times noted, 'The Bush administration reached an agreement with Mexico that would permit illegal aliens, after they are granted amnesty in the future, to claim Social Security benefits for the work they performed while in the U.S. illegally, even if they committed felonies by using fraudulent Social Security documents.' Could you explain why this is not subsidizing crime?"

"I don't know anything about it. … For the last 25 hours, I've been dealing with who is going to take what position in Washington at which department. And so if I am preparing for a news conference, probably the last thing I'm going to be doing is something which, while it may be of vital interest, it may not be top of mind. So if you wish … if you want to ask me a question like this and you really want a good answer, call me beforehand so I can be prepared," Snow said.

The TREA Senior Citizens League revealed the documentation showing the issues involving Social Security.

It obtained the papers, after years of work and a Freedom of Information Act request, documenting the U.S.-Mexico Social Security Totalization Agreement.

The group said the document reveals what was expected, a huge threat to the future of Social Security, because any Mexican worker who has as little as 18 months of employment history in the United States could end up qualifying for some Social Security retirement benefits.

The estimated drain to the Social Security system was in the billions. An analysis of the plan by the Center for Immigration Studies noted that at the end of 2003, the Social Security System owed retirees and current workers benefits valued at $14 trillion, with assets of only $3.5 trillion.

The governmental agreement between the United States and Mexico was signed in June 2004, and now is awaiting President Bush's signature. Once that signature is in place, which can be done without a vote in Congress, the U.S. House and U.S. Senate would have only 60 days to disapprove it by voting to reject it.

"The Social Security Administration itself warns that Social Security is within decades of bankruptcy – yet, they seem to have no problem making agreements that hasten its demise," said Ralph McCutchen, chairman of the league.

It's not the first such agreement; the U.S. already has nearly two dozen other agreements with other nations. They are intended to eliminate dual taxation for people who work outside their country of origin. But the other agreements are with developed nations with economies similar to that of the U.S., the league said.

For example, a worker who turns 62 after 1990 generally needs 40 calendar quarters of coverage to receive retirement benefits. Under the cross-country agreements, workers can combine earnings from both countries in order to qualify for benefits in the U.S.

The agreements generally provide that workers need only 18 months of coverage in the U.S. to qualify.

However, the league said Mexico's retirement system is "radically" different from other nations, the group said. "There, only 40 percent of the non-government workers participate in the system, as opposed to 96 percent of America's non-government workers. Additionally, the U.S. system is progressive, meaning lower-income workers get back much more than they paid into the system. But in Mexico, workers get back only what they put in, plus interest."

The CIS said the current plan "represents a sell-out of American workers and their families."

The cost of Social Security is just one of the concerns being raised by those who oppose the "Premeditated Merger" of North America, a subject fully explored and explained in the newest issue of WND's Whistleblower Magazine.

On another issue, Kinsolving asked about an Internet report "that Cindy Sheehan would join Daniel Ellsberg and Michal Ratner of the so-called Center for Constitutional Rights, in calling on the Congress to impeach the president. Does the White House know if that happened, and what was your reaction, if it did?"

Snow said he didn't know, but House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has said "that no such proceedings will take place. We'll take her at her word. She is, after all, the Speaker of the House."

On a third issue, Snow said he didn't know whether Wesley Autrey, the New York Subway Samaritan, would be invited to the White House.

The 50-year-old Autrey saw a 20-year-old man suffer a seizure and fall onto the subway tracks. He jumped down and held him still while the coming train passed over them. Neither suffered more than minor injuries.

So if you wish … if you want to ask me a question like this and you really want a good answer, call me beforehand so I can be prepared," Snow said.

So Tony, how much of an advanced warning do you need to cover Bush's ass on yet another treasonous act?

Go get 'em Kinsolving.

I'd be willing to bet Tony Snow is sorry he ever took that job. Think he'll last another two years?

Well, it's sure a job I wouldn't want. Wonder if this would be one of those jobs an American won't do.

Give it to an illegal!

Originally Posted by jean

I'd be willing to bet Tony Snow is sorry he ever took that job. Think he'll last another two years?

I think Snow is one of the better liars that has ever held the job.

He's a True Believer, so I imagine that he'll ride it out until the end.

If not, they could always get Michael Medved to step in. He's been auditioning for the job for years.

Originally Posted by jean

I'd be willing to bet Tony Snow is sorry he ever took that job. Think he'll last another two years?

I wonder if Snow, can now see just how bad a mistake he made by going to work for Bush? He will never ever be able to get his career back on tract after this huge blunder, bad choice he made by giving up his career as a reporter, talk show host, and TV host. Do you think he knows yet, deep inside, of the colossal wreck he has made, which will haunt him for the rest of his life? I use to think that Tony was a decent person, I don't know maybe facing his own mortality in having colon cancer, caused him to make an irrational move in his career. I have heard that if you have faced death yourself, or lost a loved one, you should not make any really important decisions like a career move or any decision that might really have an impact on your life, for at least a year, I believe this to be true, someone should have pointed this out to Tony and advised him to hang tight where he was instead of throwing it all away with the decision he made to latch on the coat tails of the most hated President of all time!

I use to like him until he started "covering" for bush.

He should quit this job before it ruins him completely! ....at least we could respect him for that...but to stick around will cause people to identify him with bush...what an identity! He should run from this ??????????.............? man!

Bush has been a total train wreck!!! Do you recall how he was going to save Social Security for future generations by allowing young people to buy little side annuities with up to 6% of their Social Security acct. I know now he only wanted to give the insurance companies a big payday with these funds given to them for investments.

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Bush signing this into law would be yet another huge mistake by this adminstration. So expect Bush to sign it.

A good rule of thumb is, if it contributes towards a North American Union Bush will support it.