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    PunditFact: Jorge Ramos claim about undocumented immigrants

    Bob Shackelford, WTSP 7:20 p.m. EDT September 10, 2015

    Immigration and undocumented immigrants are still among the biggest issues of the Republican presidential candidates.

    Frontrunner Donald Trump has advocated building a wall or fence along the border of Mexico to keep undocumented immigrants out. And according to one poll, 57% of likely voters believe a border should be built along the border.

    One person who doesn't agree is Jorge Ramos, the news anchor from Univision and Fusion. On Fox News' "The O'Reilly Factor," he said it would be a waste of billions of dollars.

    "Almost 40 percent of all immigrants come by plane and they overstay their visas," said Ramos.

    PunditFact quickly found that part of Ramos' claim was correct. The Immigration and Naturalization Service estimates 41% of undocumented immigrants are what they consider "overstays" -- people who have come to the United States legally but have overstayed their visas. The part about them coming by plane was more difficult to prove.

    "We don't really have a good handle on necessarily how they're getting into the country," said PunditFact editor Aaron Sharockman. "The concept that 40% of them actually flying in seems way too high. Most of the experts we talked to said it would be much less. But they also said quite frankly we don't have a lot of good data. So it's really Jorge Ramos picking a number out of thin air in this case.

    Since Ramos claimed that 40% of undocumented immigrants had overstayed their visas was correct, but how they arrived here was speculation, PunditFact rates his claim HALF TRUE.

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    Everyone knows that over 40% of illegal aliens are visa overstays and it doesn't matter how they get in because they come in legally. If they come in legally it doesn't matter whether we have a wall or not for them. We need the wall for the portion of the other 60% who sneak in through the Southern Border which is millions of people.

    I've come to realize that when PundiFact tries to verify facts with "HALF TRUE", it's because they're "HALF-WITS".
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    I dont see what the big deal here is? The fact that half our illegal aliens in America are visa overstays should be common knowledge by now. I guess the lame stream media blocks reporting on this topic so effectively that it is a surprise to the rest of America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC View Post
    I dont see what the big deal here is? The fact that half our illegal aliens in America are visa overstays should be common knowledge by now. I guess the lame stream media blocks reporting on this topic so effectively that it is a surprise to the rest of America.

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    I think it was just a surprise to the lame stream media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC View Post
    I dont see what the big deal here is? The fact that half our illegal aliens in America are visa overstays should be common knowledge by now. I guess the lame stream media blocks reporting on this topic so effectively that it is a surprise to the rest of America.

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    The media specializes in deception.
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