Thread: Reid’s got 61 votes for cloture on shamnesty

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Senator Reid interrupted the Delaware Senator debating fuel economy, to request cloture on the immigration bill.

Report: Reid’s got 61 votes for cloture on shamnesty; Update: Or does he?

And cloture, of course, is the “realâ€

I think they don't know what they are talking about!!


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Do you think this is just another ploy Sosad?

This from the same guy that stood on the Senate floor and swore that the bill would be dead and done if he didn't get the cloture vote he wanted.
Not two seconds after the cloture vote, he was talking about bringing it back.

This is an effort to make us think that all is lost so we might as well forget about it and go back to sleep...

NO EVEN GOING TO HAPPEN!

Remember, even if they do get the cloture, after 30 hours of debate, they will have to vote cloture again.

This is not over by a long shot!

Originally Posted by azwreath

Do you think this is just another ploy Sosad?

Did you see prouds post, she is exactly right, to put it bluntly ( prouds alot nicer than me ) He is a complete ASSanine Idiot. Don't believe a word he says he can not be trusted!!

Originally Posted by ProudAmericanFamily

This from the same guy that stood on the Senate floor and swore that the bill would be dead and done if he didn't get the cloture vote he wanted.
Not two seconds after the cloture vote, he was talking about bringing it back.

This is an effort to make us think that all is lost so we might as well forget about it and go back to sleep...
NO EVEN GOING TO HAPPEN!

Remember, even if they do get the cloture, after 30 hours of debate, they will have to vote cloture again.

This is not over by a long shot!

I agree, this is Dis/Mis Imformation, don't believe any of it.

Latest post in the Noam Askew blog, scroll down to bottom for his thoughts at least:

http://www.noamaskew.blogspot.com/

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Hugh Hewitt has the list of amendments (for now) from a Hill source. This list is from a Democratic email message:

Subject: Immigration Amendments
Please find below a copy of the draft amendment list. The list is tentative, in flux, and continually changing at the edges. If we get cloture to proceed to the bill, these amendments (or a similar list of amendments) would be eligible for votes before final passage.

We are still working with Republicans on a list of amendments that might be included in a voice vote-able managers’ type package.

Democratic Amendments

1199 Dodd Family parent visas

1313 Webb Community ties for Zs

1236 Baucus-Tester Strike all reference to REAL ID

1332 Sanders Employers to certify no mass layoff

1344 Byrd Border security immigration fee

1317 Menendez Increased family points in merit system

1340 Brown Employers post job at state agency

1468 McCaskill Repeat violators who hire undocumented workers

1486 Levin Iraqi religious minority refugees

1386 Leahy Refugee Scholars (may instead be 1289 on EB-5 investors)

------ Schumer Tamper-proof biometric social security card (no language yet)

1198 Boxer Reducing Y visa cap by number of Y workers who overstay

Republican Amendments

1161 Alexander Oath of allegiance for naturalization (may move to manager’s package)

1255 Bond Prohibits green cards for Z holders

1473 Coleman information sharing/sanctuary cities (Coleman is redrafting, new language not available)

1335/1258 Domenici Federal judgeship increase (redrafting)

1490 Ensign Preclusion of social security benefits

1465 Graham Enforcement, plus other potential agreed upon amendments folded in (redrafting, content not clear)

1441 Grassley-Baucus Obama Strike and replace Title III (small changes possible)

1440 Hutchison Touchback/strike and replace title vi (redrafting)

1174 Thune Probationary legal status triggers

1318 Chambliss Totalization agreement

1282 Isakson Preemption/Home Depot (redrafting)

------ Graham Criminal penalties/mandatory minimums for overstays

If this list is true, it's a clear demonstration that the supposed/theorized cloture-votes-for-amendments deal is not universal: Chambliss and Isakson have declared themselves against cloture. Was there even such a deal--was that staffer wrong? Or has the deal fallen through? Or will Chambliss's and Isakson's amendments be switched out? As the message says, this list is "in flux."

Posted by Noam Askew at 10:17 PM

It's plain to me we'll have to get rid of a lot of these people in the next election. Both the Nebraska Senator's voted yes, one Rep. and one Dem., so I guess we will just have to find two Independents that think more of their country, than they do of their party.

I just can't figure out how much incentive you have to have to stab the people at home in the back with this bill.


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