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    Rep. Deal seeks to end birthright citizenship for illegals

    Rep. Deal seeks to end birthright citizenship for illegals
    The Chattanooga Times Free Press via MSNBC : August 28 , 2007 -- by Herman Wang

    "Rep. Deal, whose Northwest Georgia district is heavily Hispanic, said the United States is an anomaly in a world where 122 countries do not grant birthright citizenship, including all of Europe, while 33 do, with the United States being the largest."
    For decades, immigration officials have granted U.S. citizenship to all children born on American soil.

    But Rep. Nathan Deal, R-Ga., wants to see that practice end for children of illegal immigrants.

    "Birthright citizenship is one of those things that has become a magnet for illegal immigrants to come over here," said Rep. Deal, who has filed a bill that would restrict birthright citizenship to children who have at least one parent with legal resident status or U.S. citizenship.

    At the crux of the issue is a clause in the 14th Amendment, passed in 1868 after the Civil War with freed slaves in mind, that granted citizenship to "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof."

    That last clause -- "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" -- has many conservatives and border-control activists arguing that the amendment was never intended to apply to illegal immigrants.

    But several immigrant-rights advocates say Rep. Deal's bill is "un-American" and unfairly targeting Hispanics.

    "He's proposing to change the Constitution to accommodate his anti-immigrant and xenophobic beliefs," said Jerry Gonzales, executive director of the Georgia Association of Latino Elected Officials. "He needs to work on ways to ensure we have a robust immigration policy to meet the economic needs of Georgia."

    Stephen Fotopulos, policy director for the Tennessee Immigrant and Refugee Rights Coalition, added that the bill "violates the most basic premise of what it is to be an American."

    "None of us chose to be born here, who our parents are and how they got here," he said.

    Rep. Deal, whose Northwest Georgia district is heavily Hispanic, said the United States is an anomaly in a world where 122 countries do not grant birthright citizenship, including all of Europe, while 33 do, with the United States being the largest.

    He has introduced similar bills three previous years, and though he acknowledges that his bill likely will not be brought up for consideration, especially with Democrats controlling the House, he said his cause is gaining momentum, with 89 co-sponsors to the bill, all Republican, the most ever.

    "I think the climate is changing," Rep. Deal said. "Illegal immigration has become more of a national concern than it has been in the past."

    Rep. Zach Wamp, R-Tenn., one of the co-sponsors, said the legislation would be a sorely needed deterrent to illegal immigration, particularly with comprehensive immigration reform stonewalled in Congress.

    Children of illegal immigrants, so-called "anchor babies," can sponsor their parents for legal permanent residency once they reach adulthood.

    "Clearly we need to send word all throughout Central and South America that if you have a baby in this country and you're not a U.S. citizen, (it) doesn't mean they're going to be a citizen," Rep. Wamp said. "This is not designed to be mean, it's just designed to basically curtail illegal immigration."

    Legal experts disagree on the constitutional merits of Rep. Deal's bill.

    Peter J. Spiro, a constitutional and immigration law professor at Temple University who testified in 2005 before Congress on birthright citizenship, said similar legislation has been introduced since the mid-1990s and gone nowhere.

    "The government has always assumed that these children have citizenship at birth," he said. "In theory, the executive branch could start denying citizenship to the children of undocumented aliens, but there's never been any suggestion within the executive branch of that happening."

    Even if the bill were to pass, he said, the judicial system would likely strike it down, ruling that a constitutional amendment, which needs to be ratified by three-fourths of the states, would be required to change the 14th amendment's birthright citizenship provision.

    "It's pretty clear that nonwithstanding a Supreme Court precedent on the amendment, it is a constitutional rule," Mr. Spiro said.

    But John Eastman, dean of the Chapman University School of Law, who also testified before Congress in 2005 on the issue, said he believes the provision can be changed statutorily by Congress without a constitutional amendment.

    He said the 14th Amendment has been misunderstood by immigration officials and the courts since the 1950s, when birthright citizenship began being granted on a wide scale to illegal immigrants.

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    "For the people that wrote that clause, there was a very well-defined distinction of sovereign jurisdiction," Mr. Eastman said. "Since the constitution doesn't give birthright citizenship, then of course (a change) can be done statutorily."

    Mr. Eastman added that any immigration reform package that includes a guest worker program will have to address birthright citizenship.

    "It's a big issue whether a child must stay here as a U.S. citizen or go home," he said. "Addressing and confronting this birthright citizenship provision up front will be a precondition for a guest worker program going through."
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    Poster's note: This was a story that was big news back in April. I post it now because of its relevance to this thread. It exemplifies how the 14th amendment is being abused.

    Palo Verde software is breached
    • Ex-employee used it during trip to Iran, officials say
    Robert Anglen and Ken Alltucker
    The Arizona Republic
    Apr. 21, 2007 12:00 AM

    Federal authorities are accusing a former engineer at Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station of illegally taking software codes to Iran and downloading details of control rooms, reactors and designs of the nation's largest nuclear plant.

    Officers arrested Mohammad "Mo" Alavi, 49, in Los Angeles this month and charged him with one count of violating a trade embargo, which prohibits Americans from exporting goods and services to Iran.

    Authorities say there is no evidence to suggest the use of the software was linked to terrorists or the Iranian government, which has clashed with the U.S. over attempts to develop a nuclear program.

    "The investigation has not led us to believe this information was taken for the purpose of being used by a foreign government or terrorists to attack us," FBI spokeswoman Deborah McCarley told The Arizona Republic on Friday. "This does not appear to be terrorist-related."

    Officials with Arizona Public Service Co., which operates Palo Verde, said the software does not pose a security risk because it doesn't control any of the nuclear plant's operating systems and is mostly used to train employees.

    But they acknowledged that they changed procedures after the incident to prohibit former employees from accessing software when they leave the company. No such procedure was in place when Alavi quit APS in August after working there for 16 years.

    A Nuclear Regulatory Commission official said Friday that "this incident has not compromised plant security."

    The incident is the latest in a string of problems that has plagued the nuclear power plant, located 50 miles west of downtown Phoenix.

    Alavi, an Iranian native who has lived in the United States as a naturalized citizen since 1976, is being held without bail in California. Alavi's lawyer said Friday that he denies any wrongdoing.

    "Mr. Alavi is a U.S. citizen. He respects the court process, and he asserts his innocence," said Milagros Cisneros of the Federal Defender's Office in Phoenix. She said the government's indictment of her client is "more smoke than fire."

    She declined to address specific allegations in the indictment, including whether Alavi gained unauthorized access to software and bought a laptop computer weeks before he resigned and moved to Iran.

    A federal judge in Phoenix denied Alavi bail Friday, saying he posed a substantial flight risk.

    "If released, it would not be difficult for him to sever electronic monitoring and leave the country by land," Judge Neil Wake said. "Ultimately, returning to Iran would require some effort but would not be difficult once he left the United States.

    "Alavi's most important associations - family, home, business investment, intended employment and future plans - are all with Iran, not the United States."

    Alavi faces up to 21 months in prison if convicted of the charge. One factor in determining any sentence could be whether the software and schematics of Palo Verde landed in the wrong hands, Wake said.

    Alavi was arrested at Los Angeles International Airport on April 9 when he returned from Iran to join his wife, who arrived in the United States two weeks earlier to give birth to their child.

    Wake said Alavi intended to immediately return to Iran to live.

    "He has no intention of resuming residence in the United States," Wake said. "He is seeking employment in Iran, having invested $60,000 in a company with the expectation of getting employment. Alavi owns a house in Tehran valued at $150,000, in which relatives live."

    Alavi's only connections to the United States, the judge said, are a $200,000 retirement fund, his friends, citizenship "and the possibility that he may want to return if he becomes disappointed in his plan to make his life in Iran."

    Authorities say he recently deposited $98,000 into a U.S. bank account.

    They also say Alavi's motivation for taking the software was to help set up his life in Iran.

    After his resignation, authorities said, Alavi told fellow employees at Palo Verde and his apartment landlord that he was going to visit Iran for a few weeks and would then return to the United States and look for a new job.

    But a month before giving his resignation notice, authorities said, Alavi bought a laptop computer and used it to download the 3KeyMaster software system.

    The software is used to train employees on the operation of nuclear reactors.

    It provides employees with emergency scenarios and instructs them to react with proper procedures. According to court records, the system contains detailed information on the reactor control rooms as well as maps, drawings, schematics and designs of the power plant.

    Authorities said Alavi asked a Palo Verde software engineer to recommend a laptop and help him obtain a user name and password to access the software system.

    Another employee saw Alavi with that laptop in the simulator room, with a 3KeyMasterand screen displayed. The employee didn't raise any alarms.

    On Aug. 9, Alavi bought a one-way ticket to Tehran, Iran. His last day at the company was Aug. 14. Two days later, he left the country with his wife. In October, authorities say, the software system was accessed from a person using the Palo Verde user ID in Tehran.

    The software's maker, Western Services in Maryland, had no idea that Alavi had resigned from Palo Verde and did not try to restrict his access, according to a federal affidavit.

    Nobody from Palo Verde informed Western Services that Alavi had quit his job at the power plant, the FBI said. The nuclear plant did not instruct the software company to remove Alavi's user name or password from the company's Web site.

    Western Services officials refused to respond to an interview request Friday.

    Since the incident, APS has changed its policy and now requires plant managers to check a box to make sure former employees don't have access to external software systems.

    "We have reviewed our policies and upgraded them," APS spokesman Jim McDonald said. "The company has taken additional measures to further strengthen controls of proprietary software in light of these events."

    McDonald said the company has always cut off access to all internal computers but not to vendor computers.

    The Nuclear Regulatory Commission in February downgraded Palo Verde's rating to the rank of most regulated nuclear power plant in the nation, triggering more rigorous oversight and additional inspections.

    The triple-reactor power plant enjoyed a streak of largely problem-free operations through the late 1990s and into the early part of this decade.

    Problems surfaced in 2004 with discovery of a "dry pipe" that could have disrupted the flow of water to the emergency core-cooling system. Other equipment problems followed, such as leaking oil seals and faulty diesel generator wiring. The problems shut down reactors more than a dozen times over the past three years.

    A major trend identified by nuclear inspectors has been poor communication and poor worker performance.

    In a letter sent to Palo Verde managers in March, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission noted that it cited the plant for 25 minor violations.

    Among the problems noted by federal inspectors included workers not always following technical procedures during reactor startups, failing to follow procedures and not using error-prevention techniques.

    APS vowed to employees and the community to do a better job. The utility said it hired Randy Edington, one of the nuclear industry's top troubleshooters, as chief nuclear officer to fix problems and restore accountability at Palo Verde.

    Employees at Palo Verde first learned about the Alavi incident in an e-mail sent Friday by APS.

    Reach the reporter at (602) 444-8694. ... r0421.html

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    Here is a link to Congressman Nathan Deal if you want to write him.

    You can check out his report card here if you want. ... &VIPID=223

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    Thanks for posting the article on Rep. Deal. I also saw it on the numbersUSA site. His district is just north of where I live.
    We all need to call his office and thank him for the bill. It would also be a good idea to call your Reps and ask them to co-sponsor this bill if they haven't already done so.

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