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    Republican Conservative voters likely to stay home

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    Conservative voters likely to stay home

    By Ralph Z. Hallow
    THE WASHINGTON TIMES
    October 19, 2006

    The Republican Party can stave off defeat with a strong turnout on Nov. 7, party leaders are telling the faithful -- but they are finding it tough to sell that message to some disillusioned conservative voters.
    "The message hasn't gotten across because a lot of people are sick and tired of thinking the only reason for going to the polls is to vote for the Republicans because they are lesser of two evils," said Tom McClusky, vice president for government affairs at the Family Research Council (FRC), a leading social conservative group.
    "Conservatives aren't motivated to come out, is what I'm finding," said conservative campaign consultant Rick Shaftan, who is based in Sparta, N.J. "They see no reason to re-elect the people who are in office."
    A top Republican pollster confidentially echoed those sentiments.
    "There are very definitely trouble signs in many states of what we call the 'LRs' -- the lethargic Republicans," said the pollster, who agreed to speak on the condition of anonymity. "They are unhappy with the president and have little love lost for Congress."
    There's little danger that such voters would switch to the Democrats, but "the real problem is that they won't vote at all," the pollster said.
    With Election Day less than three weeks away, however, efforts to mobilize conservative voters are intensifying.
    Top Republicans -- including President Bush, his chief strategist Karl Rove, Vice President Dick Cheney and Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman -- have been meeting with conservative activists, columnists and broadcasters, emphasizing the importance of this midterm election. That message has rippled out via newspapers, magazines, TV, radio and the Internet.
    An e-mail sent this week by the conservative group GOPUSA.com carried the subject line, "Don't you dare not vote," and featured a column by veteran activist Doug Patton appealing to Republican voters' patriotism.
    "As you contemplate how to express your frustration with Republican leaders who may have mishandled the power we have entrusted to them," Mr. Patton wrote, "consider how you would explain your apathy to the 1.2 million brave men who have given their lives in America's wars over the last 230 years."
    Meanwhile, FRC President Tony Perkins sent an e-mail this week asking supporters to sign a "values voter" pledge. The e-mail warned that "too many elective officeholders are content to downplay social issues," but said "officials need to hear from us, again and again, that elections are about values first -- moral and social norms."
    Many Republicans are worried that the sex scandal surrounding former Rep. Mark Foley of Florida will depress turnout among religious conservatives who have been staunchly loyal to the Republican Party.
    "Until the Foley scandal broke, there wasn't even a mathematical possibility of a Democratic takeover of either body of Congress," South Dakota-based campaign consultant Paul Erickson said. "But Foley introduced a concrete voting-base suppression factor that is immeasurable until election night."
    To explain the disaffection of some conservative voters, Mr. Shaftan cited the national party's assistance to liberal Republican Sen. Lincoln Chafee against conservative challenger Stephen Laffey in last month's Rhode Island primary.
    "The Republican leadership spent $1 million on helping Chafee, and then it wonders why conservatives don't think they're wanted in this party," Mr. Shaftan said. "They think the leadership wants them to come out every year, shine your shoes, then go sit in the back of the bus, take their Bibles and read them and shut up."
    Republican media consultant Craig Shirley said the party's national leadership appears to be trying to scare disaffected voters to the polls by arguing that Republicans aren't as bad as the Democrats.
    "It would be nice if the national party started talking about what we are for ... instead of simply trashing the left," Mr. Shirley said. "We used to be proud of our ideas about less government and more freedom."
    In New Jersey, Mr. Shaftan said polling shows a similar attitude among rank-and-file voters.
    "The left is ready for war, but our people say [Republicans in Congress] need to be taught a lesson," Mr. Shaftan said. "Lots of our base are not going to come out and vote."
    Such discouragement has also affected many of the religious voters who were widely credited with pushing Mr. Bush to victory two years ago, Mr. Perkins said.
    "There is no question that the level of enthusiasm that carried voters into the 2004 election is much diminished, however, the core of what has been described as 'values voters' will vote," the FRC president said, but warned, "The GOP should not count their votes before they are cast."
    It may already be too late to reach many conservative voters, said one alumnus of the 1994 "Republican Revolution" that swept the party to its first House majority in 40 years.
    "I sense that conservatives have largely already tuned out to the coming elections, after six years of burgeoning federal spending and inaction on key issues, such as immigration," said former Georgia Rep. Bob Barr.
    "The Republican Party has become the party of the government status quo," he said, "and conservatives see no reason to reward it with their votes."
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    "The message hasn't gotten across because a lot of people are sick and tired of thinking the only reason for going to the polls is to vote for the Republicans because they are lesser of two evils," said Tom McClusky, vice president for government affairs at the Family Research Council (FRC), a leading social conservative group.
    Well duh!

    "As you contemplate how to express your frustration with Republican leaders who may have mishandled the power we have entrusted to them," Mr. Patton wrote, "consider how you would explain your apathy to the 1.2 million brave men who have given their lives in America's wars over the last 230 years."
    I don't have to explain a damn thing. Why don't you explain to the soldiers of this country who are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan how you guys will lose your power because of your blatant corruption and gross incompetence. Don't make us voters out to be the bad guys. Don't blame us, blame youselves. You didn't listen to us and now your going to pay the price. That's the way it works in a free country you moron.

    "The Republican leadership spent $1 million on helping Chafee, and then it wonders why conservatives don't think they're wanted in this party," Mr. Shaftan said. "They think the leadership wants them to come out every year, shine your shoes, then go sit in the back of the bus, take their Bibles and read them and shut up."
    Exactly. They continue to stab us in the back and expect us to shut up and continue to vote. Ding reality check. Us conservatives can only be pushed so far. If you people would have listened then things would be different.

    "The Republican Party has become the party of the government status quo," he said, "and conservatives see no reason to reward it with their votes."
    That's how I feel. Just like in the real world, if you are incompetent, you get fired, why do politicans feel like the rules don't apply to them?

    Here's my favorite quote from another article:

    The Democrats' election-year agenda, which says what they will do if the voters put them back in charge of Congress, would seek to overturn or change just about everything President Bush and the Republicans have done since 2001.
    That's funny I thought Bush was the best president the Democrats ever had.
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    "The Republican leadership spent $1 million on helping Chafee, and then it wonders why conservatives don't think they're wanted in this party," Mr. Shaftan said.
    That really pissed me off! Lincoln Chafee is nothing more than a disguised Democrat pretending to be a Republican. All the support thrown to Chafee should have been given to Randy Graff, but the RNC is obviously more worried about the scumbags in the Senate. As far as I'm concerned the Senate could drop of the face of the planet tomorrow and middle class America would be all the better for it.

    IF WE'RE TO HAVE ANY CHANCE OF PREVENTING AN AMNESTY BILL IN 2007, REPUBLICANS MUST KEEP CONTROL OF THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

    "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" ** Edmund Burke**

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    As far as I'm concerned the Senate could drop of the face of the planet tomorrow and middle class America would be all the better for it.
    I second that. Biggest waste of tax dollars that useless body of government is.
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    IF WE'RE TO HAVE ANY CHANCE OF PREVENTING AN AMNESTY BILL IN 2007, REPUBLICANS MUST KEEP CONTROL OF THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
    That's the bottom line!!!!

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    They are unhappy with the president and have little love lost for Congress."
    Amen!
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    "Conservatives aren't motivated to come out, is what I'm finding," said conservative campaign consultant Rick Shaftan, who is based in Sparta, N.J. "They see no reason to re-elect the people who are in office."
    Well then, who can you blame for this one? Its not the voter's fault, its the elected officials fault. We hired them to do a job for us, and all they've done for years is screw the American people, and its gotten to the point where we have had enough!!!
    I see no reason to re-elect most of them in office, and I certainly won't vote Democrat by any means.

    I know there are a small few who do this already, but don't the majority of our elected officials know that if they do what is right, it will reflect upon them in the end, and they will be rewarded for it! Its the way charma works.

    As you contemplate how to express your frustration with Republican leaders who may have mishandled the power we have entrusted to them," Mr. Patton wrote, "consider how you would explain your apathy to the 1.2 million brave men who have given their lives in America's wars over the last 230 years."
    If anyone has any explaining to do, its our elected officials. Each and every one of them should explain how their greed and private agendas have put America in this position.

    Its time we elect officials who are more concerned about saving America and doing what is right, instead of getting into office to further their own private agenda's with their back room deals, and to make an extra buck. The greed has to be stopped somehow.
    We as voters need to push for a better and quicker way to get elected officials out of office before elections if they are not doing their jobs.
    "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting the same results is the definition of insanity. " Albert Einstein.

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    We as voters need to push for a better and quicker way to get elected officials out of office before elections if they are not doing their jobs.
    There is a way, the word starts with an r and ends with an n. Lets hope it doesn't get to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PinestrawGuys
    IF WE'RE TO HAVE ANY CHANCE OF PREVENTING AN AMNESTY BILL IN 2007, REPUBLICANS MUST KEEP CONTROL OF THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
    That's the bottom line!!!!
    Totally agree!
    If people let this Foley garbage influence them that much they don't have enough brains to properly vote in the first place.
    Many Reps are fed up and changing to Independent but they will still vote.
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    Freedom isn't free... Don't forget the men who died and gave that right to all of us....
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