Thread: Republicans Set to Battle on Legal Immigration

Originally Posted by Judy

Yes and help them relocate from high unemployment areas to lower unemployment areas so they can take jobs that are available in different areas of the state or country. Companies should offer this. After all, Americans aren't financed by the drug cartels to move around.

When I was young (looong time ago), I remember hearing on the news the government had issued the result of research and concluded that we would did/would have a shortage of certain vocations. It would usually go on to report that large corporations were offering scholarships, entry level (OJT) for these particular jobs.

I know this country has never been perfect, but there used to be a time when it made some kind of sense - now, I just don't know.

nntrixie wrote (excerpt):

Also if and only 'if', we truly need workers for agricultural jobs, then consider something like the old Bracero program. Bring in workers for a specific period of time, sans family, then they return home. The employers should be responsible for the workers, decent housing, etc.

We have a H-2A Temporary Agricultural Workers program.

Originally Posted by MW

nntrixie wrote (excerpt):



We have a H-2A Temporary Agricultural Workers program.

I have heard that, but am not too familiar with it. If it is done right, then we should use it.

In the parts of Texas where I have been, the agriculture work is not really seasonal. It is in the poultry, dairy, beef, and goats/sheep. These are year round work.

The H 2A is seasonal, not year round, that's why these farmers don't use it, it's also very strict, requires a certain wage, verified with paperwork, and the employer is responsible for them while they are in the country and responsible for their prompt departure at the end of the season. That's why very few use the program. The last article I read on it said there were 2 million of these visas available and 1.5 million unused.

Originally Posted by Judy

The H 2A is seasonal, not year round, that's why these farmers don't use it, it's also very strict, requires a certain wage, verified with paperwork, and the employer is responsible for them while they are in the country and responsible for their prompt departure at the end of the season. That's why very few use the program. The last article I read on it said there were 2 million of these visas available and 1.5 million unused.

I assumed that was the case. They would rather just hire illegals who are here, or plan to stay here. That way they have no responsibility for them whatsoever. The taxpayers subsidize them for their needs. If they are hurt, we pay their medical bills, etc, etc.

One of the problems, of course, is there are no repercussions for wrongdoing.

Speaking of the H1B? visas. It is/was predicated on idea that companies just could not find workers and they had to more or less prove it. They had to prove they had advertised and actually tried to find workers.

I saw a video, some enterprising people had formed a company to help employers get around those parts of the law. One of the things they talked about was how to get around the 'advertising' part. They said the law didn't specify where you had to advertise. So they suggested you run ads in things like 'knitter's newsletter' (not really but something as ridiculous. It filled the letter of the law, if not the intent.

How have we reached the point we let people get away with these things ?

How do our lawmakers, cities, states, school boards, etc., get away with protecting illegal aliens? Any one who makes a statement like that - or even worse, actually facilitates those actions, should be charged, fined until it hurts, and spend time in prison.

These kinds of actions hurt American people - that is for sure. The most insidious part, though, is the damage to the country. It makes American citizenship - something many of us hold very dear - meaningless.

How did we get here and can we find our way back?

How did we get here and can we find our way back?

Treason got US here, and Trump will lead US back.