RICK PERRY & ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION INFORMATION THREAD

[April]

Texans have been waiting for Perry to save the day..........................they might be waiting for awhile.....
[quote]August 2011 Issue
Texas at Risk: Illegal Immigration, Sanctuary Cities
and the High Cost of Ignoring the Rule of Law
By JoAnn Fleming
While you were watching the out-of-control spending, new federal regulations, and national debt dramas play out in Washington, DC, your state legislature failed in the regular session (January - May) and in the special session (June) to end sanctuary cities in Texas. As the Republican leadership of the Texas House and Senate played political games to run out the clock, Alabama, South Carolina, and Louisiana joined a growing list of states whose legislatures and governors took decisive action to protect their citizens and legal immigrants. Texas now sits in the shadow of those “rule of lawâ€

[April]

Texas Toast – Perry Is Done ….. For Him, Like The Wizard, It’s Over. The Curtain Can Never Be Redrawn….
by sundancecracker

“It’s better to burn out, than fade awayâ€

[April]

[quote] On Immigration – It was not just how he fumbled around with the points he used, but it was the substance of liberalism within those points that was irreconcilable to witness. He again advocated for a “dream act amnestyâ€

[Newmexican]

Perry faces immigration hurdles in Iowa

His stances on a U.S.-Mexico border fence and college tuition don't sit well with conservatives who'll vote in the state's Republican caucuses.

September 26, 2011, 5:36 p.m.
Reporting from Newton, Iowa— Less than two months into Rick Perry's presidential candidacy, a record on illegal immigration that served him well politically as a border-state governor is proving a tough sell with voters looking toward Iowa's Republican caucuses this winter.

It came up unbidden in the crowd of neighbors waiting recently for the Texas governor to drop by Uncle Nancy's Coffeehouse in Newton, the former corporate home of the washing-machine giant Maytag.

"I'm not sure I like Perry's approach to immigration," said Doug Ringger, a retired Maytag marketing man. "That concerns me a little bit — or a lot. I haven't heard him say we need to seal the borders."

Iowa voters are not alone in expressing such concerns, though they might seem jarring in a state whose small towns and cornfields are hundreds of miles from the nation's southern border. The state has faced little of the political turmoil over illegal immigration that has long been a staple of politics in California, Arizona, Texas and other places that are home to greater numbers of undocumented workers.

But the 2008 arrest of nearly 400 illegal immigrants at a meatpacking plant in Postville highlighted the arrival of undocumented workers in Iowa as never before. At the same time, the growth of Iowa's Latino population has sparked discomfort among some of the white conservatives who dominate the Republican caucuses.

Though Iowa remains the sixth-whitest state in America, its Latino population has surged from 33,000 in 1990 to 152,000 last year, census figures show. Even in the absence of precise figures showing how many residents are undocumented, that cultural shift has helped turn illegal immigration into a key issue for Republican caucus voters, said Dennis Goldford, a politics professor at Drake University in Des Moines.

"That presence, particularly with regard to very small-town rural Republicans who tend to think the country they know is disappearing, this becomes a problem for them," Goldford said.

The main troubles for Republicans in Iowa, as elsewhere, are Perry's opposition to a border fence stretching from the Pacific to the Gulf of Mexico and his signing of a bill allowing children of illegal immigrants to pay lower in-state tuition at public colleges in Texas. (He sparked additional anger by contending in last week's debate that those who didn't share his views on in-state tuition were heartless.)

Greeting Perry recently in the parking lot outside a restaurant in Council Bluffs, on the Missouri River, was a cluster of protesters waving signs assailing his immigration record. Ron Duncan, a retired Harrison County truck driver wearing a black Iowa Minuteman cap, carried a placard that read, "Gov. Perry — No in-state tuition for illegal aliens."

"Perry is horrible," Duncan, a leader of a local Tea Party Patriots group, said of the governor, who was one of the first politicians to embrace the "tea party" movement.

Perry did not mention immigration in his remarks to Republicans gathered across the parking lot on a patio outside Tish's Restaurant. That is his typical practice: He rarely speaks about immigration unless questioned or confronted in a debate. But immigration was on the minds of many who came to hear him, even if they largely welcomed his folksy style, his tribute to moral values and his conservative fiscal rhetoric.

At a picnic-table Republican dinner in Greene County, Bill Glawe, a corn and soybean farmer, spoke with Perry about the drought ravaging crops in Texas. But after Perry's speech to the crowd, Glawe was still skeptical, wondering whether the tuition bill meant he was too soft on illegal immigration.

"No more freebies, no more free delivering babies, no more Social Security, no more food stamps, no more free education — you pay your way," Glawe said.

A few days later, Perry rival Michele Bachmann, campaigning at a grain-processing-equipment factory in Franklin County, hammered the governor for his stands on the border fence and college tuition.

"I do not believe that American taxpayers should be subsidizing benefits for people who are in this country illegally or for their children, and I hear that all across Iowa from people," Bachmann said in response to a question.

Perry's approach to illegal immigration reflects a pragmatism shared by other border-state Republicans, among them former President George W. Bush, former California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sen. John McCain of Arizona — though McCain toughened his stance in his reelection bid last year by growling in a campaign ad that the country needed to "complete the danged fence."

Even under assault from other candidates in Thursday's presidential debate, Perry insisted that a border fence is unrealistic and that the tuition law enabled immigrants whose undocumented status was no fault of their own to become productive citizens.

"There is nobody on this stage who has spent more time working on border security than I have," Perry said during the debate in Florida. He cited $400 million in state money spent on border security, including patrols by "Texas Ranger recon teams."

Ray Sullivan, communications director of Perry's campaign, said illegal immigration would not be a big obstacle in Iowa, regardless of how aggressively his rivals exploited the issue.

"The governor's strong entry and fast rise in the race has led our opponents to attack on everything," he said. Other Perry advocates have insisted that the issue will pale next to concerns about jobs.

Yet Bill Salier, a farmer and former U.S. Senate candidate who has been outspoken on illegal immigration, said Perry faced an uphill task in winning over the caucus voters who cared most about the issue. Salier recalled that he and several like-minded Republicans were put off by Perry's statement at another Florida debate that the Texas tuition law was "sending a message to young people, regardless of what the sound of their last name is, that we believe in you."

"The left uses that lingo to hype people up," said Salier, who rejected the implication that race was a factor in opposition to illegal immigration. "That turned a lot of people off right there."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... 8515.story

[Ratbstard]

Lieutenant governor breaks with Perry on tuition


ennisdailynews.com
Associated Press
Tuesday, September 27, 2011

http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-251067.html

[Newmexican]

Perry apologizes for 'heartless' comment on immigration question
Wed Sep 28, 2011
http://www.alipac.us/ftopicp-1270700.html#1270700

[April]

Tea Party Presses Perry on Immigration


Tea Party leaders confronted Rick Perry in his own back yard Monday, calling on him to use his power as Texas governor to crack down on illegal immigration.

The activists, representing Tea Party groups from around the state, want Perry to either sign an executive order or call the Legislature back into a special session to enact a ban on so-called sanctuary cities. They also want him to eliminate a policy that they say discourages the state police from enforcing federal immigration laws.

After holding a press conference about it at the Capitol, the group delivered petitions from more than 3,000 Texans who want the governor to act now.

"Gov. Perry needs to clarify his position on illegal immigration, and he needs to come back to Texas and to finish the people's unfinished business," said JoAnn Fleming, chair of the Tea Party Caucus Advisory Committee of the Texas Legislature. "The ball is in Gov. Perry's court. He needs to make a decision. He's running out of time."

In mocking tones, Fleming threw Perry's signature phrase "fed up" — the title of his Washington-bashing book — right back at the governor.
"We're fed up, too, Gov. Perry, and we're ready for you to take care of this issue," she said.

The outcry against Perry from homegrown Tea Party activists illustrates the perils of trying to hold down the job of Texas governor while running for president. It also shows how Perry's relatively moderate stands on immigration are causing him heartburn in the conservative GOP electorate.

Perry favors giving in-state tuition to certain illegal immigrants, which has put him at odds with many Tea Party activists. This year, Perry made a crackdown on sanctuary cities an "emergency" priority in recently concluded sessions of the Texas Legislature, but the legislation never passed.

Perry spokeswoman Lucy Nashed said Perry still believes sanctuary city policies should be outlawed but did not directly address the question of whether he is willing to do anything about it now, either by calling a special session or issuing an executive order.

"We welcome support for efforts to outlaw sanctuary city policies and encourage those interested to communicate their concerns to members of the Texas Legislature," Nashed said. "Gov. Perry already agrees that sanctuary city policies must end."

Fleming and other activists who came to the Capitol Monday said they had met with Perry on June 28 about the failure of the legislation and urged him to act. They said they had not heard back from him.

Ken Emanuelson, a Dallas-based Tea Party activist, said Perry should at least issue an executive order overturning a Texas Department of Public Safety policy that they say has turned Texas into something of a sanctuary state.

The policy Emanuelson cited states: “Members of this Department will not engage in the enforcement of Federal Immigration Statutes by conducting road checks or business and residence searches unless assisting appropriate federal officers who have properly requested such assistance.â€

[April]

Poll: Rick Perry loses the tea party

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By ALEXANDER BURNS | 10/4/11 5:29 AM EDT

The new Washington Post/ABC News poll confirms what the Florida straw poll showed last month: Rick Perry is bleeding support from activist conservatives.

In the national survey, Perry’s share of the GOP primary vote has fallen to 16 percent – a tie with Herman Cain and 9 points behind Mitt Romney, who draws support from a quarter of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents.


Ron Paul is in fourth place, with 11 percent, followed by Michele Bachmann and Newt Gingrich tied at 7 percent. Rick Santorum takes 2 percent and Jon Huntsman takes half that.

The apparent explanation for Perry’s decline is what you would expect: immigration and debates. Dan Balz and Jon Cohen:

Perry’s support for the Texas policy of providing in-state tuition to the children of illegal immigrants appears to be a significant problem in the GOP race. About two-thirds of Republicans and GOP-leaning independents say they are less likely to vote for a candidate who backs such a policy. Among tea party supporters, nearly eight in 10 say this position is a negative factor. …

In early September, Perry had a 3-to-1 advantage over any other candidate among those “stronglyâ€

[April]

Rick Perry's Achilles Heel
The One Topic that Will Down His Campaign for President

By Mark Wise | Yahoo! Contributor Network – Wed, Oct 5, 2011

COMMENTARY | Recently, Texas governor and GOP presidential candidate Rick Perry has come under some heat for his policy in the state of Texas to allow children of illegal immigrants to pay for their higher education in Texas at in-state tuition rates.

According to Gallup polls, this topic is one that is very important to Republican voters 2-1 over Democratic voters. It is so importation to Republican voters that they strongly back anyone who stands up in defense of the law. This can be seen in the recent immigration lawsuit challenge between Arizona and the Obama administration where a full 79% of Republicans backed the state. Only 27% of Democrats did likewise.

According to the University of Texas website, the total cost for an in-state student ranges from $23,596 - $24,936. If you are a non-resident of Texas, your total cost ranges from $35,776 - $45,960. That means that Gov. Perry's policy benefits the children of illegal immigrants from anywhere between $12,180 and $21,024.

Supporters of the governor's policy point out that the children of illegal immigrants had no choice in entering the country and as such should not be punished. While that viewpoint has some merit, I ultimately believe it is a fallible one. The most obvious objection to this policy is that our government should not reward breaking the law. The most basic definition of a nation is an adherence to a common set of laws. When someone breaks that law, punishment not only should happen but is required to happen. A law breaker that goes unpunished weakens the whole Law.

We saw this type of degradation in 1986 when President Ronald Reagan struck a deal with the Congress led by Democrats. He would offer amnesty to the 3 million illegal immigrants then residing in the United States in exchange for sealing off of the border. In reality, amnesty was given but the border was never sealed. The rewarding of those who broke the law and the failure to close the door, directly led to the meteoric rise of new illegal immigrants. According to the Pew Research Center, today we have over 12 million in the country today with no signs of the border ever being sealed.

I realize that our current immigration laws could use some adjustment. I think that they could speed up the process for those waiting to enter the country. They could streamline procedures to help those who want to come and contribute to the nation in a timely manner. The path to citizenship should not be hidden behind a dark veil of bureaucracy and full of pitfalls. Rather, it should be well lit by liberty and well marked by the constitution.

That being said, allowing special benefits to the children of people who came to this country illegally while not extending the same to the children of citizens is wrong. I think this issue could prove to be Gov. Perry's Achilles heel in his bid for the Republican nomination.

http://news.yahoo.com/rick-perrys-achil ... 00334.html

[southBronx]

April
they all better wake the hell up or they all Finished
I don't like any of them may be one bachman
the other I would Not give two cent for






No amnesty