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08-28-2017, 01:59 AM #1A Nation Without Borders Is Not A Nation - Ronald Reagan
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08-28-2017, 05:01 PM #2Senior Member
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Oh, I think it is much worse and much more pervasive than just the drug cartels.
It is standard practice in the law enforcement and judicial system in Texas, so I'm assuming it's not that far off in other places.
It's in our welfare system, our education system, etc.
A lot of the reason could be drugs all right but not the drug cartels, as we know them. It goes all through our economy and our judicial system. The so called drug cartels don't have that much money or that much muscle.
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08-28-2017, 05:29 PM #3
The foreign illegal drug business over 10 years ago made $240 billion a year just over the southern border and a lot of drugs come in through our ports as well so I believe it's way over a $300 billion a trade through the drug cartels today. The $240 billion was from a Congressional investigative study called "The Southwest Border: A Line in the Sand". It was based on Border Patrol information. It used to be posted on the internet, but they took it down several years ago, probably at the beginning of the first Obama term. That doesn't count the human smuggling and other cartel illegal enterprises. Most people don't know the massive financial wealth of these cartels.
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08-29-2017, 02:40 PM #4Senior Member
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It is just me,but if the government is pointing in direction, we had better look elsewhere.
They would like for us to believe the drug problem in this country is due to some drug cartels out of Mexico. They don't want anyone to ask themselves if that is even physically possible.
They want to hint the cartel is paying off politicians so illegals can stay.
Again, if they are waving a hand and putting out some smoke, we need to look behind the curtain.
They put out a few 'facts' and we are eager to connect the dots. The alternative is just too vile to consider - but consider it we must.
As for government 'facts', remember this is the same government that says we have 'll million' illegals in this country.
This is the same government that says we should be in Syria, because ------------, well 'for our freedoms'.
We are sending 4K more troops to Afghanistan - 'for our freeedom'.
The fake news media in all it's hysteria doesn't hold a candle to the ridiculous things our government tells us and we believe it because we are afraid not to believe.
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08-29-2017, 09:39 PM #5
I've never heard the government say any of it, except their calculation of the dollar volume of drugs coming across the SW border. They've never said the cartels were buying up officials or politicians. They've never said the cartels were behind illegal immigration, instead, they treat it as two difference unrelated issues, when I believe they are not only connected, their drug business can't survive here without illegal aliens to run the operations. This is just me saying it. Agree or not, it's just my conclusion from research years ago and nothing since has caused me to change my mind.
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08-30-2017, 04:16 PM #6Senior Member
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Yes, I believe the illegals are very much a part of the drug business - operating their tire shops, restaurants, party rental stores, car lots (good way to transport drugs), etc. This money surely has to go through banks. Is the cartel powerful enough to tell banks to allow this? If the banks are doing it because they make a lot of money from it, who is powerful enough to allow banks to break the law
to that extent?
The statement the man made to me that 'most of the people getting sales tax permits, couldn't speak English'. The cartel would have to pay a lot of people in state governments to allow that to happen across this country. For that reason, I don't believe it is just money - I think it is the power to dictate that.
Are they involved, without a doubt. The question is are they THE drug traffickers or are they working in conjunction with or for other entities. Are they useful as a scapegoat or a 'face of the drug trade' to feed the American people.
When we went to SA to stamp out cocaine coming from this country, the problem grew.
We now control and protect the poppy fields in Afghanistan.
Our government might tell us the Taliban is the heroin trafficker, although it has historically been anti-drug, but since we have control of the fields, we have to ask ourselves a few very tough questions.
These thoughts are not meant to be argumentative - just to suggest maybe not trusting our government and it's news and statistics.
Sorry, if it came off any other way.
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08-31-2017, 06:09 AM #7
Oh yes, it's all of that, too. The term "foreign drug cartels" is really a cartoonist term for this criminal cabal that spans many countries and all levels of people involved. The cartels are not "El Chapo", they are institutional criminals from governments like Mexico and many others to the businesses who launder and invest the money and hire illegal aliens to give them covers, networks, and a base of operations to law enforcement agencies and politicians paid to protect those operations.
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