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    Secret recordings raise new questions in ATF 'Gunwalker'

    September 19, 2011 12:53 PM

    Secret recordings raise new questions in ATF 'Gunwalker' operation

    By Sharyl Attkisson Topics News , Law and Order 22 Comments

    (Credit: CBS/AP) Updated 5:09 pm, Sept. 19, 2011 with comment from the Office of the Inspector General

    WASHINGTON - CBS News has obtained secretly recorded conversations that raise questions as to whether some evidence is being withheld in the murder of a Border Patrol agent.

    Audio at Link:

    The tapes were recorded approximately mid-March 2011 by the primary gun dealer cooperating with ATF in its "Fast and Furious" operation: Andre Howard, owner of Lone Wolf Trading Company in Glendale, Arizona. He's talking with the lead case ATF case agent Hope MacAllister.

    The tapes have been turned over to Congressional investigators and the Inspector General.

    As CBS News first reported last February, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives allegedly allowed thousands of weapons to "walk" onto the streets without interdiction into the hands of suspected traffickers for Mexican drug cartels in its operation "Fast and Furious."

    The conversations refer to a third weapon recovered at the murder scene of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.

    Agent: I was ordered to let guns into Mexico

    Court records have previously only mentioned two weapons: Romanian WASR "AK-47 type" assault rifles. Both were allegedly sold to suspects who were under ATF's watch as part of Fast and Furious.

    Also, a ballistics report turned over to Congressional investigators only mentions the two WASR rifles. The ballistics report says it's inconclusive as to whether either of the WASR rifles fired the bullet that killed Terry.

    Law enforcement sources and others close to the Congressional investigation say the Justice Department's Inspector General obtained the audio tapes several months ago as part of its investigation into Fast and Furious.

    Then, the sources say for some reason the Inspector General passed the tapes along to the U.S. Attorney's Office in Arizona: a subject in the investigation. It's unclear why the Inspector General, who is supposed to investigate independently, would turn over evidence to an entity that is itself under investigation.

    A spokesman from the Office of the Inspector General today said, "The OIG officially provided the United States Attorney's Office with a copy of the recordings in question so that the USAO could consider them in connection with the government's disclosure obligations in the pending criminal prosecutions of the gun traffickers. Prior to receiving the tapes, the OIG made clear that we would have to provide a copy of the recordings to the United States Attorney's Office because they would need to review them to satisfy any legal disclosure obligations."

    In the audiotapes, ATF Agent MacAllister tells Howard that a third weapon recovered at the Brian Terry murder scene last December is an SKS assault rifle. Agent MacAllister claims to know that the SKS "had nothing to do with" the Brian Terry murder and, unlike the WASR's, did not trace back to the Lone Wolf gun store.

    It's unclear why a weapon would be, in essence, missing from the evidence disclosed at the crime scene under FBI jurisdiction.

    Agent MacAllister and Howard (the gun dealer) also discuss various Republicans and Democrats in Congress who are investigating Fast and Furious. They express concern that whistleblower ATF special agent John Dodson has further evidence that could be damaging to the government.

    Transcript of the audio below:

    Agent: Well there was two.

    Dealer: There's three weapons.

    Agent: There's three weapons.

    Dealer: I know that.

    Agent: And yes, there's serial numbers for all three.

    Dealer: That's correct.

    Agent: Two of them came from this store.

    Dealer: I understand that.

    Agent: There's an SKS that I don't think came from.... Dallas or Texas or something like that.

    Dealer: I know. talking about the AK's

    Agent: The two AK's came from this store.

    Dealer: I know that.

    Agent: Ok.

    Dealer: I did the Goddamned trace

    Agent: Third weapon is the SKS has nothing to do with it.

    Dealer: That didn't come from me.

    Agent: No and there is that's my knowledge. and I spoke to someone who would know those are the only ones they have. So this is the agent who's working the case, all I can go by is what she told me. ... ?tag=stack
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    OPERATION GUNRUNNER Information Collection Point ... rasc-.html

    VIDEO: Obama denying that neither he nor Eric Holder 'authorized' Operation Gunrunner to Univision TV ... to-mexico/

    [quote][i]Gun shop owners and whistle-blowing agents with the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) recently announced their concerns with a controversial government program which allows the smuggling of U.S. weapons across the nation’s southern border. In response, the Obama administration is now denying having any knowledge of the operation.

    Dubbed “Project Gunrunner,
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    The missing weapon could be the smoking gun.

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    This third gun will show that our Federal Government freely gives guns to Mexican Drug Cartels, without intending any kind of follow-up. And, almost 4 years ago, some unidentified American sellers sold 50 airplanes to the Sinaloa Cartel with laundered drug money.

    Like the ATF scandal, this operation was probably also supposed to remain a secret, except that Mexican officials found and busted 2 of the American-registered planes, for carrying 4 & 5.5 tons of cocaine each.

    That's quite a racketeering operation they've got going.

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