Thread: Sour Grapes Over The Radical Obama Threw Under The Bus

By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Friday, March 27, 2009 4:20 PM PT

Homeland Security: The open-borders crowd is angry the president ditched its radical choice to run the nation's civil-rights division. And it's blaming this paper for his "faintheartedness."


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Obama was expected to appoint Thomas Saenz as his top civil-rights cop at the Justice Department, where he would have had power to investigate issues related to illegal immigration, such as voting rights, redistricting, worker documentation and police conduct.

But then, at the last minute, the president deselected him in the face of vocal opposition to Saenz's extremist work for an illegal alien group, whose co-founder has made racist remarks against whites.

The New York Times, for one, complains that we did its man in with our March 5 editorial, "Who's Thomas Saenz?" "An editorial in Investor's Business Daily slimed Mr. Saenz," who's spent his career standing up for the "rights" of illegal immigrants, its editorial board said.

If we slimed Saenz, we did so with solid facts clearly inconvenient to the Times' amnesty-for-illegals agenda.

"The suffering that illegal immigrants endure — from raids to workplace exploitation to mistreatment in detention — is a civil-rights crisis," the paper contended in its editorial.

"Mr. Saenz would have been an ideal candidate to reaffirm values that have been lost in the poisoned debate, had Mr. Obama dared to nominate him."

New York's Anti-Defamation League joined in the Saenz pity party, condemning our piece as "outrageous and shameful" (see letter below).

In Saenz's hometown, Los Angeles Times columnist Gregory Rodriguez blamed the "fiercely anti-immigrant Investor's Business Daily" for causing a furor that "scared off" the White House.

Of course, IBD has consistently championed legal immigration. An earlier L.A. Times news story on the Saenz flap accurately described our position as "anti-illegal immigration."

Too bad Rodriguez didn't read it, or do any independent research, before dismissing as "an old canard" an easily verifiable fact that Saenz worked for a radical Hispanic group.

In fact, Saenz's former employer, the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, or Maldef, was founded by three self-described "radical" Chicanos, according to the San Antonio Express-News.

One of them is Mexican-American Mario Obledo, who in 1998 made the following racist statement on a Los Angeles radio show, as confirmed by Snopes.com:

"We're going to take over all the political institutions of California. California is going to become a Hispanic state, and if anyone doesn't like it, they should leave. They ought to go back to Europe."

That same year, Maldef honored Obledo at a California banquet celebrating his years of leadership.

Saenz was Maldef's longtime vice president of litigation before taking his current job as counsel to Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, who is a close friend of Obledo. Villaraigosa chaired the UCLA chapter of a radical sister group, Mecha, whose slogan, "Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada," translates as, "For our race, everything. For those outside our race, nothing."

Apparently the Anti-Defamation League doesn't consider such hate speech as "mean-spirited" as our editorial. Of course not. Theirs is politically correct — and protected — hate speech.

Nor apparently does it view a Mexican-American leader's desire to cleanse California of European Americans as "xenophobic," another term it used to label our arguments.

We're not the only ones offended. So are many patriotic Hispanic-Americans. In fact, two Hispanic Democrats formerly allied with Maldef — longtime California State Sens. Gloria Romero and Martha Escutia — now view the group as "racially divisive."

Maldef is the legal activist arm of the reconquista lobby — a network of Hispanic groups that support the reconquest of the American Southwest through illegal immigration.

Maldef sues to get illegal aliens voting rights, welfare, jobs, health care, housing and even driver's licenses and mortgages. It sues to let them loiter in parking lots. It sues to keep them out of jail and from being deported, while suing cops — like Maricopa County (Phoenix area) Sheriff Joe Arpaio — who enforce the nation's laws.

And Saenz was Maldef's chief litigator. He even led the effort to kill Proposition 187 in California against the wishes of 60% of voters. The law would have denied welfare to illegals.

He also fought against the kind of Border Patrol sweeps that many now view as critical to controlling Mexican drug-cartel violence in border states, not to mention infiltration from foreign terrorists.

Maldef doesn't want police enforcing immigration laws in our cities, either. It insists the 12 million-plus criminal fugitives already here deserve amnesty, automatic citizenship (after a nominal fine) and full government benefits, including Social Security.

"U.S. cities and towns are the wrong place to conduct immigration law enforcement," the group says on its Web site. "Local police should devote their resources to public safety and crime prevention, not immigration status."

Maldef is described in the media as the "law firm of the Latino community." But in protecting illegal immigrants, the group is out of touch with the majority of Americans who think all illegal immigrants should be deported, according to polling by the Pew Research Center, which is sympathetic to Latino immigration issues.

The New York Times thinks that illegal immigrants are "suffering." But what about all the American citizens who suffer crimes at the hands of illegal immigrants each year?

Or all the American taxpayers having to bail them out of the mortgages they're defaulting on in California and Nevada and other heavily Hispanic states — thanks to the pressure Hispanic lobbyists applied to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to make risky subprime loans to immigrants, requiring neither income nor asset documentation?

Illegal immigration is not the victimless crime its apologists like to think it is.

And now taxpayers may be in for even more suffering. Reportedly, Maldef President John Trasvina, who recently lobbied Congress to do more to assist Latino homeowners, is on tap to head the Department of Housing and Urban Development division that regulates "fair housing" quotas at Fannie and Freddie.

The apologists may get their Maldef man, after all.
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticle ... ow=1&rss=1

And now taxpayers may be in for even more suffering. Reportedly, Maldef President John Trasvina, who recently lobbied Congress to do more to assist Latino homeowners, is on tap to head the Department of Housing and Urban Development division that regulates "fair housing" quotas at Fannie and Freddie.



Are you kidding me??? We've all seen Trasvina on Lou Dobbs many times. He is one of most odious pompous men I've seen in a long time. The rights of most Americans will be forgotten if Trasvina is brought to D.C.

Can this paper write an expose about Trasvina as well?

What is President Obama thinking????

As an American I am outraged.

Obama and the democrats are drunk off their new found powers and they are trying to bolster thier votes so they can keep thier power through future elections.But as the average American wakes up to what their agenda really is they are already feeling desperate to secure the hispanic vote any way they can.

We can thank W for this unfortunate turn of events for America.

I would like to see a poll some where that asked the question: If you voted for obama in 2008(and would admit that you did)would you take the vote back now if you could?

Keep working it president obama,I think your actions are assuring the decline of the democrat party at a fast pace.

An earlier L.A. Times news story on the Saenz flap accurately described our position as "anti-illegal immigration."

That has to be a first!

Maldef is the legal activist arm of the reconquista lobby — a network of Hispanic groups that support the reconquest of the American Southwest through illegal immigration.

ICE and the FBI need to investigate these fools.

Or all the American taxpayers having to bail them out of the mortgages they're defaulting on in California and Nevada and other heavily Hispanic states — thanks to the pressure Hispanic lobbyists applied to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to make risky subprime loans to immigrants, requiring neither income nor asset documentation?

ACORN did that!

I think I like Investor's Business Daily

Originally Posted by Justonehero

I would like to see a poll some where that asked the question: If you voted for obama in 2008(and would admit that you did)would you take the vote back now if you could?

Keep working it president obama,I think your actions are assuring the decline of the democrat party at a fast pace.

I found this poll with discussions, at Wake Up America:

Do you regret voting for Barack Obama?
Between an expensive stimulus package and questionable appointees, President Barack Obama may have kept the nation divided in controversy rather than uniting it. Now that the Obama has been in the ...
Between an expensive stimulus package and questionable appointees, President Barack Obama may have kept the nation divided in controversy rather than uniting it. Now that the Obama has been in the office long enough to make some real changes, do you have any second thoughts about how you voted in the Presidential election?
http://www.sodahead.com/question/265464 ... 5QoddDYLdQ

Originally Posted by DearsisterAnise

Originally Posted by Justonehero

I would like to see a poll some where that asked the question: If you voted for obama in 2008(and would admit that you did)would you take the vote back now if you could?

Keep working it president obama,I think your actions are assuring the decline of the democrat party at a fast pace.

I found this poll with discussions, at Wake Up America:

Do you regret voting for Barack Obama?
Between an expensive stimulus package and questionable appointees, President Barack Obama may have kept the nation divided in controversy rather than uniting it. Now that the Obama has been in the ...
Between an expensive stimulus package and questionable appointees, President Barack Obama may have kept the nation divided in controversy rather than uniting it. Now that the Obama has been in the office long enough to make some real changes, do you have any second thoughts about how you voted in the Presidential election?
http://www.sodahead.com/question/265464 ... 5QoddDYLdQ

Thanks for posting that! Lots of interesting discussions there! I just read one about how they are thinking of banning black cars in CA! What next?!?!

Originally Posted by fedupinwaukegan

What is President Obama thinking????

What is Obama thinking? Americans last, that's what. What else do you expect from a man who grew up in an anti-American country, and whose mother apparently despised America.

"Thanks for posting that! Lots of interesting discussions there! I just read one
about how they are thinking of banning black cars in CA! What next?!?!"


You're welcome. I find it interesting too...takes all kinds, huh? Tho I was glad to see a few people over there that 'woke up.'...
Black cars could be banned in CA? I missed it...

Article: Who's Thomas Sanchez?
http://www.alipac.us/ftopic-148524-0-da ... rasc-.html

"The suffering that illegal immigrants endure — from raids to workplace exploitation to mistreatment in detention — is a civil-rights crisis," the paper contended in its editorial.

Foreign Nationals are not granted Civil Rights in the Constitution. They do not have civil rights, those belong strictly to Americans.

Don't let anyone, any attorney or any judge tell you otherwise. You better fight like hell to protect your rights as a citizen of the United States.

Our country is in deep trouble, if you start giving your civil rights to people that commit war crimes against you. Just like the people at Gitmo. What happens if they mistrial or get a jury/judge that lets them go? The terrorists will walk free in your streets. Who wants to give their civil rights to Osama bin Laden?

Dixie