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    State Sen. Mark Green and State Rep. Bryan Terry Unapologetic About Not Giving

    State Sen. Mark Green and State Rep. Bryan Terry Unapologetic About Not Giving In-State Tuition to Illegal Aliens

    March 20, 2018

    Chris Alto


    State Sen. Mark Green (R-Clarksville) and State Rep. Bryan Terry (R-Murfreesboro) are clear that the goal of their in-state tuition bill is to block awarding the state benefit to illegal aliens. Their bill augments the Tennessee’s “Eligibility Verification for Entitlements Act” with precise language identifying in-state tuition as a state benefit.


    Terry’s explanation leaves no doubt in this regard:

    In-state tuition only covers between 25-75 percent of the cost to provide the college education. Taxpayer funds support the rest. That is clearly a state benefit. Any attempt to exclude post secondary assistance in the definition of a state benefit is contrary to the facts and our bill will ensure taxpayers are protected.

    There are U.S. citizens who live out of state, but pay business or property taxes in Tennessee. They still must pay out of state tuition. We shouldn’t be incentivizing illegal immigrants to take advantage of Tennessee taxpayers when we don’t even provide a courtesy to Americans who are investing in our state.

    And his bill, HB2101 directly contradicts State Rep. Mark White’s (R-Memphis) bill, HB2429 which is trying to exempt in-state tuition from state law that defines what is a “state or local public benefit.”


    Last week the House Education Subcommittee chaired by White, passed his bill on a voice vote with no discussion. This was his fourth attempt at securing the state benefit for illegal aliens. Terry’s bill is on the calendar for today in the same subcommittee.
    Green’s companion bill is number 36 on Wednesday’s Senate Education Committee calendar, twenty-something bills ahead of Gardenhire’s in-state tuition companion bill to White’s. Committees, however, do not always take bills in the order listed in the calendar.


    Green knows that his bill is in-step with people from around the state that he has talked with:

    Tennesseans have made it abundantly clear that they do not want their tax dollars to subsidize college tuition for those who are in our country illegally. Families across our state are struggling with the ever-rising costs of tuition, and the last thing they want to see is their tax dollars being used to pay tuition for illegal aliens.

    Tennessee Star polling of likely Republican primary voters opposed to providing taxpayer subsidized in-state college tuition to illegal immigrant students increased between June to December 2017, from 84 percent to 88 percent–while support has decreased–from 11 percent to 6 percent.
    White and Gardenhire have scrupulously avoided labelling the intended beneficiaries of their bills as illegal aliens, unlawful immigrants or illegal immigrants. White has used obtuse descriptions such as “children in a special situation,” although Gardenhire did call them “children of undocumented immigrants” when he objected to The Tennessee Star polling question on in-state tuition.


    According to a 2017 opinion issued by the Tennessee Attorney General’s office, the Gardenhire/White bill in its current form, is defective according to legal decisions on the issue.


    The federal law which limits the authority of state governments to extend public benefits to illegal aliens does permit states some latitude in this regard, but only if the language explicitly identifies “unlawful aliens” as the intended beneficiaries.


    By way of example, the AG opinion cites to a California case addressing in-state tuition:

    In Martinez, the California Supreme Court held that, to meet the ‘affirmatively provides’ requirement, state legislation did not have to expressly reference § 1621 [the federal law] but did have to ‘expressly state that it applies to undocumented aliens, rather than conferring a benefit generally without specifying that its benefits may include undocumented aliens.’


    White has said that it would be harder to pass this type of bill if he had to include an explicit reference to illegal or unlawful immigrants.


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    Illegal aliens should not be in ANY of our schools. Deport them out of the country!
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    In-State Tuition Bill Passes First Committee After 150 Youth Take Capitol

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    Tuesday, March 13, 2018

    Contact: Nicholas Valdes


    150 Immigrant Students Cheer as House Committee Advances In-State Tuition Bill: HB2429 Passes during TIRRC's Tuition Opportunity Day on the Hill

    NASHVILLE - Today, the House Education Administration and Planning Sub-Committee voted to advance HB2429, a bill to grant in-state tuition to all students who spend at least three years in a Tennessee high school, regardless of their immigration status.



    The bill is sponsored by Representative Mark White (R-Memphis) and Senator Todd Gardenhire (R-Chattanooga) who have been advocating for fair tuition for the past several years. Since 2012, TIRRC has led the statewide campaign to expand access to in-state tuition. Currently, undocumented students must pay more than three times as much as their classmates to attend a public college or university, no matter how long they've lived in Tennessee.



    The first vote on the bill happened during TIRRC's Tuition Opportunity Day on the Hill. TIRRC mobilized more than 150 immigrant students and educators from across the state to the capitol today to share their stories and the urgency of expanding access to higher education to all Tennessee graduates, regardless of immigration status.


    In meetings with more than 40 legislators, immigrant youth made the case for HB2429/SB2263 and urged their representatives to vote yes, opening the door for higher educations for thousands of students this fall. Before the committee cast their votes to advance HB2429, Governor Haslam reiterated his support for the bill while gathering with students for a photo outside of the Tennessee State Capitol.
    In addition to Governor Haslam, the bill is supported by several chambers of commerce and most of the state's public and private universities. The Tennessee public overwhelmingly approves of legislation to provide in-state tuition to undocumented students, with nearly 72 percent expressing their support in a recent Vanderbilt poll.



    The following is a statement from Stephanie Teatro, Co-Executive Director of the Tennessee Immigrant and Refugee Rights Coalition:



    "Today, immigrant youth from across Tennessee powerfully launched our campaign to pass the Tuition Opportunity bill and reminded legislators how much is at stake. We are encouraged by today's vote and hope the legislature will move quickly to pass this bill and allow the thousands of students graduating from high school this spring the chance to follow their dreams."


    The following is a statement from TIRRC member Karla Meza (Knoxville):


    “Tuition Opportunity is important to me and thousands of immigrant students raised in Tennessee. We deserve the opportunity to pursue higher education in the state we call home. We have been learning, growing, working, and building our lives here. Being able to pursue a higher education at the in-state rate would help us advance ourselves as well as our state.”


    The following is a statement from TIRRC member Alondra Gomez (Chattanooga):


    “My younger brother is one of the thousands of undocumented youth in TN who are excelling in the public education system. However, as his graduation approaches, he continues to find himself financially barred from a degree that would allow him to give back to the Chattanooga community that raised him. For the betterment of our state, elected officials should be making it easier for undocumented students to access a post-secondary education, not further enforcing the barriers that keep our communities from thriving.”


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    TIRRC is a statewide, immigrant and refugee-led collaboration whose mission is to empower immigrants and refugees throughout Tennessee to develop a unified voice, defend their rights, and create an atmosphere in which they are recognized as positive contributors to the state. Since its founding in 2001, TIRRC has worked to develop immigrant leadership, build the capacity of its immigrant-led member organizations, help immigrant community members understand and engage in the civic process, and educate the public about policies that would better promote integration of new immigrants and facilitate their full participation in US society. In just a few years TIRRC has grown from a grassroots network of community leaders into one of the most diverse and effective coalitions of its kind, a model for emerging immigrant rights organizations in the Southeast and throughout the United States.


    https://www.tnimmigrant.org/in-state-tuition-bill-passes-first-committee-after-150-youth-take-capitol/
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    In State Tuition Bills for Illegal Aliens

    Senate Bill SB 2263 by Senator Todd Gardenhire

    House Bill HB 2429 by Representative Mark White

    https://legiscan.com/TN/bill/HB2429/2017



    Bill Summary

    http://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/110/Fiscal/SB2263.pdf


    Text

    http://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/110/Bill/HB2429.pdf


    Sponsors

    https://legiscan.com/TN/sponsors/HB2429/2017
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    Contact Information

    TN Senator Todd Gardenhire


    http://www.capitol.tn.gov/senate/members/S10.html


    Nashville Address. 425 5th Avenue North Suite 732 Cordell Hull Bldg. Nashville, TN 37243

    Phone: (615) 741- 6682.
    Fax: (615) 253-0209

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    TN Representative Mark White Contact Information

    http://www.capitol.tn.gov/house/members/h83.html


    Nashville Address. 425 5th Avenue North Suite 502 Cordell Hull Bldg. Nashville, TN 37243

    Phone: (615) 741- 4415
    Fax: (615) 253-0349

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    Education Committee Members Contact Information

    http://www.capitol.tn.gov/senate/com...education.html

    TN Senate Members Contact Information

    http://www.capitol.tn.gov/senate/members/

    TN House Members Contact Information

    http://www.capitol.tn.gov/house/members/
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    HB 2429by *White M

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    (SB 2263) by *Gardenhire





    • FISCAL SUMMARY

      Increase State Revenue - Net Impact - $1,334,500/FY18-19/Locally Governed Institutions $1,374,500/FY19-20/Locally Governed Institutions Exceeds $1,415,800/FY20-21 and Subsequent Years/ Locally Governed Institutions $267,400/FY18-19/Community College System $275,400/FY19-20/Community College System Exceeds $283,600/FY20-21 and Subsequent Years/ Community College System $1,479,800/FY18-19/University of Tennessee $1,524,200/FY19-20/University of Tennessee Exceeds $1,570,000/FY20-21 and Subsequent Years/ University of Tennessee

      BILL SUMMARY

      This bill exempts certain students from paying out-of-state tuition at state institutions of higher education, as discussed below.

      Under this bill, beginning with the 2018-2019 academic year, an individual will be exempt from paying out-of-state tuition at a state higher education institution (institution) if the individual:

      (1) Attended school in this state for the three years immediately prior to graduation from high school;
      (2) Graduated from a Tennessee high school, obtained a GED or HiSET credential awarded by a state approved institution or organization, or completed high school in a Tennessee home school program; and
      (3) Is registered as an entering student or is enrolled at an institution.

      This bill requires each student granted the out-of-state tuition exemption to sign an affidavit stating that the student is either a citizen or a lawfully present noncitizen, or, in the case of a person without lawful immigration status, that the student will file an application to legalize such student's immigration status as soon as the student is eligible.
      An institution that receives an affidavit must treat the affidavit as an education record of the individual under the provisions of FERPA. Also, under this bill, information obtained in its implementation will be confidential and not a public record. The information will only be used as required to administer tuition payments, and may not be disclosed for any other purpose without the written consent of the student except as required by Tennessee law or pursuant to a court order.

      This bill specifies that the exemption from paying the out-of-state tuition affirmatively satisfies the express eligibility requirement under federal law, in which a state may provide that an alien who is not lawfully present in the United States is eligible for any state or local public benefit for which such alien would otherwise be ineligible. This bill also specifies that the exemption from paying out-of-state tuition will not be considered a state or local public benefit for which a state governmental entity must verify the citizenship or immigration status of an applicant for such benefit.

      This bill will not apply to international students and trainees who are in this country on a temporary basis and have no intention of abandoning their home countries.










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    SB 2263by *Gardenhire

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    (HB 2429) by *White M




    Education, Higher - As introduced, exempts certain students from paying out-of-state tuition at state institutions of higher education. - Amends TCA Section 4-58-102; Title 49, Chapter 7; Title 49, Chapter 8 and Title 49, Chapter 9.




    • Bill History
    • Amendments
    • Video
    • Summary
    • Fiscal Note
    • Votes


    • SB2263ACTIONS DATE
      Placed on Senate Education Committee calendar for 3/28/2018 03/21/2018
      Action deferred in Senate Education Committee to 3/28/2018 03/21/2018
      Placed on Senate Education Committee calendar for 3/21/2018 03/14/2018
      Sponsor(s) Added. 03/13/2018
      Reset on Final calendar of Senate Education Committee 03/07/2018
      Placed on Senate Education Committee calendar for 3/7/2018 02/28/2018
      Passed on Second Consideration, refer to Senate Education Committee 02/05/2018
      Introduced, Passed on First Consideration 02/01/2018
      Filed for introduction 02/01/2018



      HB2429ACTIONS DATE
      Sponsor(s) Added. 03/14/2018
      Rec. for pass by s/c ref. to Education Administration & Planning 03/14/2018
      Placed on s/c cal Education Administration & Planning Subcommittee for 3/13/2018 03/07/2018
      Sponsor(s) Added. 03/06/2018
      Sponsor(s) Added. 02/22/2018
      Sponsor(s) Added. 02/08/2018
      Sponsor(s) Added. 02/07/2018
      Assigned to s/c Education Administration & Planning Subcommittee 02/07/2018
      P2C, ref. to Education Administration & Planning 02/07/2018
      P1C. 02/05/2018
      Sponsor(s) Added. 02/05/2018
      Filed for intro. 02/01/2018
      Intro. 02/01/2018


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