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    Stimulus Loophole Gives 300,000 Jobs to Illegals

    Stimulus Loophole Gives 300,000 Jobs to Illegals

    Monday, March 9, 2009 6:09 PM

    By: David A. Patten

    An estimated 300,000 construction jobs paid for by the stimulus plan will go to illegal workers after leading Democrats removed a provision requiring verification of citizenship, a leading immigration expert tells Newsmax.

    The House version of the $787 billion stimulus bill required verification of the legal residency of anyone put to work by its spending. But that provision was removed from the bill before members of Congress met to reconcile the House and Senate versions of the bill.

    Steven Camarota, director of research for the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), tells Newsmax the verification provision was deleted by Democratic leaders even before the bill reached the conference committee, where differences between House and Senate legislation are normally ironed out.

    “When it got to conference, the top people -- not just the conference members, but the top people: Reid, Pelosi, and Obama -- chose to kill the provision and not include it,â€
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    The U.S. Chamber of Commerce has filed a lawsuit to prevent making the use of E-Verify mandatory. The organization says Congress approved it strictly as a voluntary initiative.
    Are we lobbying the Congress, yet?
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    this was not a loop hole, it was Intentionally wrote this way for you to pay taxes to give Illegal Aliens paychecks...

    Not only are you paying for an ILLEGAL ALIEN to have a job ~ You are paying the Interest on the Loan from China in the form of the stimulus

    So Money and the Interest going back to China so that your Politicians will be able to give an Illegal Alien a NICE BIG FAT PAY CHECK WHILE YOU YOURSELF IS UNEMPLOYED

    YOUR Politicians are just raping you America and making you pay for it with all the bennies... the thing is, the bennies are not coming to you and you will pay hard for your corrupt politicians act's

    that new truck you need... watch that Illegal Alien pulling it off the New Car Lot .. it's ok, maybe you have an unemployment check for a couple more weeks at 50% before taxes

    you don't care America... I don't care... just don't ask me for a food hand out, you are on your own...

    some of you people never act or react to what these goofy politicians do to you... some of you care but not enough to let your voices be heard

    SO SUCK IT DOWN AND EMBRACE THE SUCK... THE NEW WORLD ORDER IS RUNNING THE SHOW AND THE NORTH AMERICAN UNION TAKES PRECEDENCE OVER YOUR LITTLE NONE REACTING LIFE
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    From USA TODAY

    Illegal immigrants might get stimulus jobs, experts say

    Enlarge By Joe Raedle, Getty Images
    A road construction crew works on a widening project in February in Florida City, Fla. The stimulus law calls for infrastructure projects to help spark the economy.

    By William M. Welch, USA TODAY

    LOS ANGELES — Tens of thousands of jobs created by the economic stimulus law could end up filled by illegal immigrants, particularly in big states such as California where undocumented workers are heavily represented in construction, experts on both sides of the issue say.

    Studies by two conservative think tanks estimate immigrants in the United States illegally could take 300,000 construction jobs, or 15% of the 2 million jobs that new taxpayer-financed projects are predicted to create.

    They fault Congress for failing to require that employers certify legal immigration status of workers before hiring by using a Department of Homeland Security program called E-Verify. The program allows employers to check the validity of Social Security numbers provided by new hires. It is available to employers on a voluntary basis.

    "They could have deterred this, but they chose not to," said Steven Camarota, director of research for the Center for Immigration Studies.
    He said a federal requirement that employers use E-Verify would have reduced, if not eliminated, the hiring of immigrants in this country illegally.

    An advocacy group for immigrants, illegal and legal, did not disagree with the 300,000 estimate. Camarota says the estimate is based on data from the U.S. Census Bureau's Current Population Survey and other independent findings that 15% of all construction workers in the USA are either illegal immigrants or lack the status of legal immigrant authorized to work.

    But Jorge-Mario Cabrera, director of education for the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles, said it is impossible to predict with certainty because it is unknown how many jobless immigrant construction workers may leave the U.S., frustrated by the economic recession, before the new spending produces jobs.

    He questioned the Center for Immigration Studies' motives.

    "Those are fear tactics. … 'The immigrants are here to take your job,' " Cabrera said. "I think that we really should be focusing on economic progress for all."

    The center is a Washington policy organization that, its website says, "seeks fewer immigrants but a warmer welcome for those admitted." Cabrera says his group believes unauthorized immigrants working in this country contribute to the economy.

    A similar hiring estimate was produced in a report in February by the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank. Senior research fellow Robert Rector wrote, "Without specific mechanisms to ensure that workers are U.S. citizens or legal immigrants authorized to work, it is likely that 15% of these workers, or 300,000, would be illegal immigrants."

    The version of the stimulus bill passed by the House of Representatives included a provision requiring employers to check immigration status with the E-Verify system before hiring. The Senate did not include such a provision, and it was not in the version sent to President Obama. The Obama administration has delayed until at least May 21 a Bush administration executive order requiring federal contractors to use the E-Verify system in hiring. It had been scheduled to take effect in January. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce filed suit seeking to block the requirement, joined by the Associated Builders and Contractors and other business organizations.

    The business groups and immigrant advocacy groups argue that the E-Verify database is riddled with errors that could result in millions of workers being wrongly identified as not authorized for work. They say requiring its use before hiring would impose a cost burden on employers and open them to lawsuits.

    Camarota said illegal immigrants working in construction are concentrated in California, Arizona and Texas along the border with Mexico, as well as Florida, Illinois, New York, New Jersey, North Carolina and Georgia.

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    http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/e ... jobs_N.htm

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    "Senate Stimulus; 300 Jobs for Illegals?" By Steven A. Camarota, February 2009:
    http://www.cis.org/SenateStimulus
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    The following poll questions are included in AOL's feature of the "USA Today" story about some 300,000 jobs possibly going to illegal aliens under the current stimulus bill:

    1. Do you believe you could ever lose your job to an undocumented worker?
    Yes
    No

    2. Have you taken steps, like learning a second language, to stay competitive in a bilingual economy?
    Yes
    No

    http://money.aol.com/news/articles/jobs ... nts/375969

    (When did we become a "bilingual economy"?)
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    Insanity

    1. Do you believe you could ever lose your job to an undocumented worker?

    Have already lost 5 different million dollar homes to illegals in the last two years. Builders have no conscience when it comes to hiring illegals over needy American carpenters. They want cheep... not quality, and could care less about how it effects unemployed carpenters.

    2. Have you taken steps, like learning a second language, to stay competitive in a bilingual economy?

    I will never learn to speak another language! It's absurd to even ask Americans to become bilingual. This is just going to lead to more Americans being kicked to the curb...


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    They are talking about it on Fox news right now. They say 15% of the stimulus for employment will go to illegals. Juan the lowlife Hernandez is on Fox right now saying the illegals deserve it they are good workers. What a load os BS. He says we need illegals because thousands of Americans are retiring....................WHAT A JOKE.........Thousands are jobless!!! OMG He keep saying don't be unfair my friend because the interviewer is nailing him about the illegals being criminals.

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    The day I have to learn a second language ( lets be honest, it's spanish they are talking about) in order to get a job in my country because we have government that refuses to protect Americans against this illegal invasion is the day hell will freeze over!

    Funny how the are not asking illegal invaders to learn English!
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    He says we need illegals because thousands of Americans are retiring..................
    Like I can retire some time before I drop dead!! No one can afford to retire after Obama takes all our money to give to illegals.
    "A Nation of sheep will beget a government of Wolves" -Edward R. Murrow

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