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    Stop illegal aliens from getting driver's licenses? California plan would reverse law

    Stop the undocumented from getting driver's licenses? California plan would reverse law

    BY TARYN LUNA
    tluna@sacbee.com
    July 09, 2018 12:01 AM
    Updated 6 hours 21 minutes ago

    An initiative that would reverse a law that allows immigrants residing in California illegally to obtain driver's licenses has been cleared to begin gathering signatures for the 2020 ballot.

    The proposal also seeks to eliminate the current "sanctuary state" law and end automatic voter registration practices in California. Don Rosenberg, the main proponent of the proposal and a staunch opponent of illegal immigration, said he believes the plan will increase public safety, reduce voter fraud and prevent traffic fatalities.


    More than 1 million illegal immigrants in California have been issued driver's licenses
    since Assembly Bill 60 took effect in 2015.


    "The line that AB 60 will make the roads safer was totally bull," Rosenberg said. "It is not safer. It was a complete lie."


    Gov. Jerry Brown signed AB 60, introduced by former Assemblyman Luis Alejo, in 2013.

    Studies have found that hit-and-run accidents dropped after AB 60 became law two years later.

    Data from the National Safety Council show that motor vehicle-related deaths jumped 10 percent in California from 2015 through 2017, but the council did not suggest any cause for the increase.


    Rosenberg announced his intent to launch the initiative in April. He became a vocal adversary of illegal immigration after his son was killed in San Francisco in 2010. Drew Rosenberg, then 25, was hit on a motorcycle by an unlicensed driver who had been granted temporary immigration status to remain in the U.S. Rosenberg said the driver originally entered the country illegally.


    He blames California politicians and immigrants that reside in the state without legal authorization for his son's death. He appeared in television ads opposing the sanctuary state law last year.


    Rosenberg's initiative would require every law enforcement agency in California to cooperate with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement ó the antithesis of the 'sanctuary state' law. Police would also be required to verify the legal status of every person they arrest for other crimes and suspect to be in violation of federal immigration law. The person's legal status would be turned over to the federal government.

    The plan would require new voters to sign an affidavit and provide proof of their citizenship with a birth certificate, passport or federal databases.

    Citizens would have to provide similar proof to obtain a driver's license or identification card.

    Immigrants residing in California without legal authorization would be banned from seeking or renewing their driver's license.


    The California Secretary of State late last month said Rosenberg could begin collecting the 365,880 voter signatures necessary to qualify for the ballot.

    The signatures must be submitted to county election offices no later than Dec. 19.

    https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics...214451294.html
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    Stop States harboring, aiding and abetting ILLEGAL ALIENS!

    NO government issued Drivers License or ID's.

    NO government taxpayer funded benefits including healthcare, school, welfare, food stamps, housing, lawyers!

    NO government issued U.S. Birth Certificates to ANY baby born by a foreigner who is a non-citizen! Give them a Certificate of Child Born Abroad.

    NO asylum at our Ports of Entry! Mandatory they apply in their country, be vetted and medical exam, PRIOR to arriving at our border!

    NO DETENTION CENTERS...PROCESS AND DEPORT WITHIN 48 HOURS OR SERVE TIME IN FEDERAL TENT CITY ON FEDERAL LAND...THEN DEPORT THEM OUT OF HERE!

    NO ILLEGAL ALIENS OR ANY FEDERAL IMMIGRATION VIOLATORS UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE LOCAL AND STATE COURTS! HAND THE ALL INTO THE CUSTODY OF ICE AND TRANSPORT TO FEDERAL TENT CITY FOR PROCESSING! THEY FALL UNDER FEDERAL LAWS AND SHOULD BE INCARCERATED SEPERATELY FROM U.S. CITIZENS.

    NO MINORS UNDER THE AGE OF 18 TO BE PUT IN OUR DETENTION OR FOSTER CARE! SEND THEM IMMEDIATELY OVER INTO THE CARE AND CUSTODY OF THEIR PRESIDENT!
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    Illegal aliens can get driver's licenses in all 50 states,if they are in DACA.

    5/29/15
    "The law is effective immediately, meaning that Dreamers granted DACA finally have the right to apply for driver's licenses in all 50 states."

    https://www.aclu.org/blog/speak-free...-their-license

    Nebraska Legislature Overrides Governor's Veto and Gives Dreamers Their License to Drive

    By Jonathan Blazer, ACLU
    MAY 29, 2015 | 12:30 PM



    Maria Marquez Hernandez at her graduation


    Maria Marquez Hernandez just graduated from the University of Nebraska at Omaha with a degree in psychology, but she still can't give her younger sister a ride. That's because she's a Dreamer — brought to the U.S. by her parents and raised undocumented as a child.

    Shortly after the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program was announced in 2012, Maria applied for DACA and received a Social Security number and work authorization card, which ordinarily would have allowed her to apply for a Nebraska driver's license. But the former and current governor decreed that Dreamers could not qualify for driver's licenses, even if they presented that documentation. This has made daily life difficult for Maria, but not being able to do what other big sisters do bothered her most.

    Buckle up. This week that changed when the Nebraska Senate voted in dramatic fashion to let Dreamers drive.

    Maria loves Nebraska, which she has called home since the age of five. But as she has noted, standing up for herself and others in the face of injustice is part of being an American. So when Maria was denied a license because of Gov. Pete Ricketts' adherence to an unfair and unlawful edict, she joined with several of her fellow Dreamers to challenge it in court. But rather than simply waiting on a court to decide, Dreamers and their allies, including the Nebraska Chamber of Commerce, convinced the legislature to consider a bill to reverse the discriminatory policy.

    At first, it seemed like a long shot. Republican members of Congress are trying to scrap DACA altogether. Republican governors and attorneys general in 26 states — including Nebraska — are suing to stop the DACA program from expanding. How were Dreamers going to convince a majority of Republicans to override their Republican governor?

    Ask them. Last week, the legislature passed a bill ensuring that Dreamers with DACA — and anyone else with deferred action — are eligible for driver's licenses. When the governor vetoed the bill, the senators stood strong, and voted 34-10 to override the veto. This vote is a victory for Dreamers, and for all Nebraskans.

    But it is also of national significance for two other reasons.
    First, it successfully concludes nearly three years of a nationwide, state-by-state legal and political struggle by ACLU and partner organizations to support Dreamers' fight to win recognition of their right to driver's licenses. As soon as President Obama announced his DACA initiative in August 2012, most states embraced the opportunity to integrate young immigrants and to ensure that they are trained, tested, licensed, and insured as drivers. Some states, however, vowed to deny driver's licenses to them. Others stonewalled.

    There was more than driving at stake. For states and Dreamers alike, a driver's license symbolizes belonging, membership, and acceptance. In most cases, recalcitrant state officials relented in the face of strong legal advocacy, organizing, and the broad public consensus favoring fair treatment of Dreamers.

    Three states held out: Michigan, Arizona, and Nebraska.

    Dreamers had little choice but to sue, with the support of ACLU and other partners. Michigan began issuing licenses soon after being sued. Arizona began issuing licenses earlier this year, after the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit found that the state's policy violated the U.S. Constitution. This left Nebraska standing alone, the last state clinging to discrimination.

    Wisely, rather than await yet another unfavorable court ruling, the legislature took the affirmative step of passing a law to end two governors' losing battle. The law is effective immediately, meaning that Dreamers granted DACA finally have the right to apply for driver's licenses in all 50 states.

    Second, the Nebraska vote brings an underreported trend to the surface: the unwillingness of state legislatures in both red and blue states to penalize Dreamers and others granted deferred action.

    Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, the architect of numerous failed anti-immigrant state laws,boasted earlier this year that he was in consultation with lawmakers from a dozen other states about state legislation to target Dreamers and others who benefit from federal executive actions on immigration.

    Yet from Kansas to Georgia to Texas, Republicans state legislators are refusing as a matter of state policy to penalize Dreamers. Why? It's one thing to file a bill attacking Dreamers, and it's quite another to have to face them, hearing after hearing, and to listen to their stories, which always disrupt simplistic stereotypes regarding "illegal immigration."

    The media rebroadcasts those stories of young people overcoming extraordinary obstacles to contribute actively to their communities, and public opinion turns even further against legislators seeking to punish Dreamers. The Nebraska vote is another strong indication of support, on the ground, for Dreamers and the presidents' deferred action initiatives.

    Republicans may disagree with the way in which the president has gone about his reforms, but they appear to agree with the policies themselves.

    Either way, Maria Marquez Hernandez, other Dreamers, and their allies will keep fighting — and winning.

    https://www.aclu.org/blog/speak-free...-their-license
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