Results 1 to 8 of 8
Like Tree6Likes

Thread: Tension Brews Between ICE And Immigration Advocates Over Deportation Policies

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Nebraska
    Posts
    2,892

    Tension Brews Between ICE And Immigration Advocates Over Deportation Policies

    WASHINGTON -- Last Friday, immigration advocates met with Department of Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson and Immigration and Customs Enforcement Director Sarah Saldaña and brought up some concerns, including a surprising statement she made the day before that seemed wholly at odds with the administration's policies.


    Saldaña had said at a House hearing that it would be helpful for Congress to pass a law requiring police to hold immigrants for ICE. That came as a shock to those who follow the issue, since the administration has spent months trying to repair relations with localities that resist detaining people on ICE's behalf.


    ICE issued a statement under Saldaña's name on Friday, not long before the meeting with advocates, reversing her remarks and saying such legislation would be "highly counterproductive."


    Inside the meeting, according to some of those in attendance, Saldaña said she was surprised her comments had caused concerns, and tried to explain them. Johnson interjected and read aloud from her public statement, people in the room said.


    "That was a very awkward moment," said one attendee, who requested anonymity to discuss the off-the-record meeting. Another summed up Johnson's interruption in a single word: "Ouch." ICE did not comment on the meeting.


    The moment encapsulated the concerns some immigration reform advocates are having with ICE in the months following President Barack Obama's executive actions on immigration. Advocates are relieved to get some policies they've long requested, but some of that relief has faded into questions over how those policies are being implemented. And Saldaña's comments last week, even if quickly reversed, bred concerns among advocates that she is either unaware of, or disagrees with, administration policy.


    It would be difficult for any Immigration and Customs Enforcement director to have a completely drama-free relationship with advocates. Their missions are, for the most part, different: ICE is tasked with carrying out deportations, and activists are often fighting against them.


    But advocates said they have a constructive relationship with Johnson, and hope to do the same with Saldaña. It just hasn't gotten off to a perfect start.


    "It was surprising and really, frankly, just disturbing that she would make those comments without first taking the time to learn the issues, to learn the complexity of the agency and especially to hear what our concerns with the immigrant community are," Marielena Hincapie, director of the National Immigration Law Center, said of Saldaña's statements at the hearing last week.


    Saldaña, formerly U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Texas, was confirmed in December by the Senate by a vote of 55 to 39. The ICE director position had been vacant for more than a year after former Director John Morton -- who also faced his share of criticism -- stepped down in 2013. Saldaña is the first Latina to lead ICE, and was confirmed despite Republican opposition that was largely based on their opposition to Obama's executive actions on immigration.


    ICE directors have historically taken heat from both sides of the aisle. Republicans accuse them of deporting too few undocumented immigrants, while some Democrats have said they are deporting the wrong people.


    The Obama administration has attempted to improve on those points. In November, Johnson announced a new deportation relief program for some parents of U.S. citizens and legal permanent residents, along with the expansion of an existing program that allows some undocumented immigrants who came to the U.S. as children to stay and work temporarily. Those programs are currently on hold because of a court injunction. But ICE agents have been instructed to continue implementation of another piece of the executive actions: a memo laying out priorities for deportation.


    "ICE officers, agents, and attorneys will continue to evaluate all cases on an individualized basis throughout the immigration enforcement process to consider any factors that may warrant the exercise of prosecutorial discretion when appropriate," ICE spokeswoman Gillian Christensen said in a statement.


    Immigration advocates applauded the executive actions, but now say they are worried some people are facing deportation because they fit the broad strokes of the priorities, when other aspects of their situations should be taken into account as well. That concern increased after ICE announced the results of its Operation Cross Check earlier this month, when agents picked up more than 2,000 convicted criminals. More than 1,000 of them had felony convictions, and many of the misdemeanors were for driving under the influence. But advocates noted that some of the people caught up were guilty of only immigration-related offenses, or had committed less serious crimes years ago and maintained a clean record since.


    "Operation Cross Check was a little disconcerting to the community, particularly given some comments that these were 'the worst of the worst,' and then you see who some of the people are and they're not even 'the worst,'" American Immigration Lawyers Association executive director Crystal Williams said.


    Many members of the immigrant rights community rallied around the case of Iowa Mennonite pastor Max Villatoro, who was arrested in Operation Cross Check for offenses committed in the late '90s, including a drunk driving conviction. Villatoro has since turned his life around, according to his supporters, and is married with four children who are U.S. citizens. He was deported to Honduras last Friday, prompting outrage from advocates who said ICE should have considered other factors in addition to a crime for which he had already served his time.


    ICE officials have said Villatoro was a priority under the new policies due to his criminal record. And some argue it isn't fair to say deportations like his prove ICE isn't following its priorities.


    Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.), both a long-time critic of deportation policies and a supporter of the new executive actions, said people can't claim "the system doesn't work" because immigrants who would be ineligible for deferred action programs are being deported, although he supports comprehensive immigration reform that would help more undocumented immigrants.


    "Show me someone that qualifies [for the programs] and then let's fight," he said in an interview. "And if we bring it up to Homeland Security and they deport them, then I think that it's a sham and it's broken. But that's not what's happening."


    Gutierrez said he feels "very confident" that the administration will not deport people who qualify for the new deferred action policies. He debuted a new toolkit on Thursday for would-be deferred action applicants, including a card they can carry and present to ICE officers that says they may be eligible for the programs.


    Johnson said at a House hearing on Thursday that there is more to be done to ensure ICE agents are following the new priorities.


    "I think that the learning and the training with regard to our new priorities is a work in progress," he said.


    At the same hearing, Johnson continued to downplay the slight controversy Saldaña sparked last week over police holding immigrants for ICE. Part of the November executive actions was a plan to end a program called Secure Communities that had faced significant opposition from localities that didn't want to hold immigrants for ICE, particularly those cleared of crimes or with low-level offenses, when they would otherwise be released.


    Johnson and Saldaña are currently trying to convince localities and states with policies against cooperating with ICE to get back on board. He said a law mandating local law enforcement to hold immigrants would be "counterproductive" and that "there are constitutional issues."


    "It would be a step back. I want to encourage these people to cooperate with us and not impose that on them," he said. "I think it would be very controversial if we did that."


    Now advocates are "in a wait-and-see posture," said Joanne Lin, a legislative counsel with the American Civil Liberties Union, which was critical of Saldaña's statements on ICE and law enforcement last week.


    "It really remains to be seen whether enforcement under Saldaña and Johnson is going to be materially different than it was under [former DHS Secretary Janet] Napolitano and Morton," she said. "That is really an open question at this point."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...usaolp00000592

  2. #2
    Senior Member vistalad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    NorCal
    Posts
    3,036
    Much ado about nothing.

    'Bamacrats are not about protecting Americans interests. The occasional glitch doesn't actually change that at all.
    *******************************
    Americans first in this magnificent country

    American jobs for American workers

    Fair trade, not free trade

  3. #3
    Senior Member Judy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    55,883
    I wonder why Democrats hate Americans?
    A Nation Without Borders Is Not A Nation - Ronald Reagan
    Save America, Deport Congress! - Judy

    Support our FIGHT AGAINST illegal immigration & Amnesty by joining our E-mail Alerts at https://eepurl.com/cktGTn

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    3,185
    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    I wonder why Democrats hate Americans?
    I wonder why Congress hates Americans?

  5. #5
    Senior Member vistalad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    NorCal
    Posts
    3,036
    I think it's that politicians have their own agendas.

    In theory we elect them, to represent us. In practice, we elect them, and then we have to watch them like hawks, because they will sell us out, if it's to their advantage as politicians. Thus 'Bamacrats sell out Americans, to get the votes of most of those Undocumented Democrats. The Republican leadership sells out Americans, to give their big-money donors the additional surplus labor that those donors covet.

    This is part of the reality of democracy. IMO it's the best system, but like all systems, it is ultimately operated by human beings. Some of those human beings are scum.
    ***************************
    Americans first in this magnificent country

    American jobs for American workers

    Fair trade, not free trade

  6. #6
    Senior Member Judy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    55,883
    American voters have to remove the scum from Congress and the White House, Governors mansions, State Legislatures, City Halls and County Commissions and replace them people who love America and Americans, who will report to work and do their jobs representing every minute of every day, only the best interests of the American People. 214 members of the last Congress were business people, 211 were lawyers, and both know the meaning and obligation of fiduciary obligations, which is what representatives and senatosr are, fiduciaries of the American People. There were 206 members from public service/politics and 92 from education. That's it. Now is there anyone amongst that group that would not know their fiduciary obligation to the people of the United States? No, there is not.

    https://www.senate.gov/CRSReports/cr...BL%2BR\C%3F%0A

    What we have are people on the take with the cartels which is why we have an immigration problem. What we have are people on the take with donors which is why we have tax, deficit and debt problems. What we have to quote vistalad, are some "scum" in the Congress that does the exact opposite of what they're supposed to do and for whom they are supposed to do it.

    I hope all these people like Harry Reid and others who are retiring from the Congress live long lives, so they can see how wrong they were, how much damage they caused, and how quickly from this point on, the American People fix it and turn-it-around, so not only will every American know how wrong they were, but the whole world will know, and remember them as The Pond-Scum Who Almost Destroyed America.
    Last edited by Judy; 03-29-2015 at 01:57 AM.
    A Nation Without Borders Is Not A Nation - Ronald Reagan
    Save America, Deport Congress! - Judy

    Support our FIGHT AGAINST illegal immigration & Amnesty by joining our E-mail Alerts at https://eepurl.com/cktGTn

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    3,185
    Whoa, Judy, I remember Dad in one of his lighter moments said he wasn't voting for young Presidents anymore because we had to pay their retirement too long. lol

  8. #8
    Senior Member Judy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    55,883
    Quote Originally Posted by kevinssdad View Post
    Whoa, Judy, I remember Dad in one of his lighter moments said he wasn't voting for young Presidents anymore because we had to pay their retirement too long. lol
    \

    LOL!!! I love it! That is the true conservative, always thinking about the cost of a vote or an action! We could learn from your Dad, if you got more of those from your Dad, be sure to pass them along. Reminds me of something my uncles who farm and live in the country would have said.
    A Nation Without Borders Is Not A Nation - Ronald Reagan
    Save America, Deport Congress! - Judy

    Support our FIGHT AGAINST illegal immigration & Amnesty by joining our E-mail Alerts at https://eepurl.com/cktGTn

Similar Threads

  1. I.C.E. agents argue against new deportation policies
    By JohnDoe2 in forum Videos about Illegal Immigration, refugee programs, globalism, & socialism
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 01-15-2012, 10:26 PM
  2. Immigration Skirmish Brews in Quiet SC Town
    By Ratbstard in forum illegal immigration News Stories & Reports
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 07-30-2010, 03:58 PM
  3. Immigration Skirmish Brews in Quiet SC Town
    By AirborneSapper7 in forum illegal immigration News Stories & Reports
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 07-30-2010, 11:04 AM
  4. AZ: Advocates to protest immigration policies
    By Jean in forum illegal immigration News Stories & Reports
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 01-12-2010, 09:36 AM
  5. MD: Advocates, families wary of immigration policies
    By Jean in forum illegal immigration News Stories & Reports
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 06-08-2008, 02:43 AM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •