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    I fear that-------

    I fear that-------until we, by the millions go to Washington, yes even more than have been there, we will not make a dent in the thinking of our politicians.

    The god of profit rules. Follow the money. Hey--how to get construction back on track??? Let more people in and then we will need more housing. This is the thinking of a group called economists. It is a SOCIAL science and dismisses the concept of American people and what is best for them.

    What they should be doing is devising economic programs that provide economic well being for America within the scope of its own citizenry.

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    Re: Thousands to starve themselves to press for immig justi

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    Thousands choose to starve themselves in order to press for immigration justice

    If they starve to death, can we Americans get back those jobs they stole?

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    Gee do you think they really will ...hope so!!!

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    Hunger Strikes Used by Immigration Reform Advocates
    Hunger Striker Lost 20 Pounds in Protest
    By KIMBERLY BROWN

    June 7, 2010—

    Just a few weeks after graduating from Columbia University, Yadira Alvarez, an undocumented immigrant from Mexico, is in her seventh day of a hunger strike in front of Sen. Charles Schumer's Manhattan offices.

    She is one of a small group of young immigrants who are putting their health on the line, and for some of them, risking the unwanted attention of immigration authorities, in an effort to persuade the lawmaker to push a bill that could finally give some of them -- and many thousands of other young undocumented immigrants -- a path to legal status in this country.

    "We can't be spectators anymore," said Alvarez, 22, who came to the United States in 2000 under a tourist visa.

    Her group, the New York State Youth Leadership Council, began its hunger strike after failing in a series of tamer tactics, including petitions, phone banking, rallies, vigils and a "die-in" involving lying down on the floor of Schumer's, D-N.Y., offices until they were granted a meeting.

    Theirs is just one of a number of hunger strikes being waged by immigration reform activists around the country, frustrated by what they see as unmet promises by President Obama to tackle immigration reform within his first year in office, and frightened by a tough new law in Arizona that would require immigrants to carry documentation and give law enforcement the power to detain anyone suspected of being undocumented.

    Among the other recent hunger strikes is one that began in New York's Battery Park near the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island before heading inside a downtown church where about 40 men and women, mostly immigrants, recently fasted for 72 hours in protest and to urge Congress and the Obama administration to take action.

    "We are sacrificing," said Ravi Ragbir, an immigrant from Trinidad who now lives in New Jersey, "to show how harsh and how oppressive the laws are."

    "We are willing to deny ourselves food, which is life, to continue our fight," he said.

    Oswaldo Cabrera, a 42-year-old immigration advocate who practiced law in his native Ecuador before crossing the desert into Laredo, Texas, 20 years ago, has held a hunger strike for more than four weeks in a series of churches in New York and New Jersey. His protest opposes U.S. immigration policies that he said inhumanely rip parents from their children.

    Hunger Strikes Used to Push Immigration Reform

    Cabrera lost almost 20 pounds and complained of severe back and lung pain late last week. In a conversation with ABCNews.com, he had trouble composing his thoughts clearly, owing to his weakened state.

    Several days earlier, he told the New York Daily News, "I condemn the deportations of immigrant workers and I condemn the Arizona law that is a stain on America and offends humanity."

    Cabrera is executive director of the Coalicion Latinoamericana.

    In May, the arrests of three activists who staged a sit-in outside the offices of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., prompted another hunger strike in Michigan.

    "I don't think there's another way," said Gabriel Martinez, 27, one of the hunger strikers outside Schumer's office, "unless we want to escalate to violence."

    Martinez is a graduate of John Jay College and an undocumented immigrant from Mexico who walked for five days across the desert at age 10 to reach the United States.

    "We will be here as long as the body can support being without food," he said.

    It remains to be seen what impact these hunger strikes will have. Some notable hunger strikers remain etched in our memory like India's Gandhi, farm worker champion Cesar Chavez, and Northern Ireland's Bobby Sands.

    "Hunger strikes have a really very spotty, complicated history of success," said Mark Sawyer, professor of political science at the University of California, Los Angeles, and the director of the Center for the Study of Race, Ethnicity and Politics.

    They work best, he said, when the striker is suffering from an injustice and the resolution sought is simple and comprehensible, such as a prisoner wanting freedom.

    Using the gambit to try to achieve something as complicated as legislation, here on the many-headed beast of immigration reform, may prove difficult, he said.

    The young men and women now entering their seventh day camped out in front of Schumer's office, consuming only water and vitamins, said they plan to continue until the legislation known as the DREAM Act moves forward in Congress. Though three of the original 10 strikers have left, two new protesters joined over the weekend, and the group insists they are committed.

    Alvarez, whose mother called her at the encampment on Third Avenue last week with the news that her Columbia University diploma had arrived in the mail, said that at this point, she doesn't have anything to lose. No architecture firm will hire her until she is documented.

    "I'm taking the risk because I just can't sit around anymore and watch how my dream is being killed," she said. "Even though I've done everything right; I got good grades in high school, I finished college, I was a good student, I behaved. I did everything right and now this dream can't continue because I don't have documents."

    If deported, she said, "I would leave with my chin up high and a smile on my face. I did as much as I could."

    Sen. Schumer Targeted By Hunger Strikers

    If passed, the Dream Act would offer a path to legal status to an estimated 1 million undocumented immigrants, according to the Migration Policy Institute, a non-partisan think tank. It would apply only to those who arrived in the country illegally while under the age of 16 during a specified time frame, and would require that they achieve a college degree or serve two years in the military, as well as remain clear of a criminal record.

    DREAM Act supporters contend that if the legislation is extracted from the comprehensive immigration legislation, it has a better chance of passage, and that passage could happen sooner. But much of the immigration reform movement disagrees and the factions have a history of clashing over strategy.

    For Schumer's part, his staff has held multiple meetings with the activists and has offered the protesters the use of bathrooms.

    Schumer co-sponsored the DREAM Act, and chairs the Senate Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security and Citizenship. His office says he is working to advance and pass comprehensive immigration reform, which would include the DREAM Act.

    "Sen. Schumer recognizes the frustration of these students and their desire to see our broken immigration system fixed as soon as possible," said Mike Morey, the senator's spokesman, in a prepared statement.

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    "5 million American children of undocumented parents who live in fear of them not coming back home at the end of the day."
    Another law broken; it is called child abuse or child endangerment. Every illegal alien while breaking our law entering our country illegally and also bringing their children with them choose to put their children at risk. Instead of taking the responsibility for their actions they try to place the blame on us. Then they demand that we change our laws.

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    legislation that would allow immigrant youth who were brought to the U.S. as children, graduated from high school and completed two years of college or military service to apply for citizenship.
    If our immigration laws were enforced these people would have ben deported long before this problem existed. This is another indication that our immigration laws have not ben enforced for far too long.

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    Alvarez, whose mother called her at the encampment on Third Avenue last week with the news that her Columbia University diploma had arrived in the mail, said that at this point, she doesn't have anything to lose. No architecture firm will hire her until she is documented.
    What makes her think she could get hired with documents? 80% of our American children cannot find work after college graduation, and many are going into further debt by obtaining Masters degrees hoping the economy will improve.

    She should be grateful that she received all this education, as well as many other benefits, from American taxpayers. She should be furious with her parents who instead of enduring hunger strikes to protest in Mexico they stole into the US and then continued to steal benefits they did not pay for.

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    Just a few weeks after graduating from Columbia University, Yadira Alvarez, an undocumented immigrant from Mexico, is in her seventh day of a hunger strike in front of Sen. Charles Schumer's Manhattan offices.

    She is one of a small group of young immigrants who are putting their health on the line, and for some of them, risking the unwanted attention of immigration authorities, in an effort to persuade the lawmaker to push a bill that could finally give some of them -- and many thousands of other young undocumented immigrants -- a path to legal status in this country.

    "We can't be spectators anymore," said Alvarez, 22, who came to the United States in 2000 under a tourist visa.
    This arrogant invader has some nerve! Where the hell is ICE??

    "I don't think there's another way," said Gabriel Martinez, 27, one of the hunger strikers outside Schumer's office, "unless we want to escalate to violence."

    Martinez is a graduate of John Jay College and an undocumented immigrant from Mexico who walked for five days across the desert at age 10 to reach the United States.
    Where are our leaders? Are they reading this crap? I have no doubt if their demands are not met they will next turn to violence!
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    Ah, John, Bobby and Ted Kennedy are deceased so no one is going to go to their hunger strike and give them any attention for acting foolishly. That's the only reason it worked for Chavez.

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    Let them starve. How many other countries are threatened with demands of legalization by a large mass of foreigners? None that I can think of.
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