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    Tom MacArthur: ‘I Want Strong, Secure Borders,’ Andy Kim Wants Open Borders



    July 27, 2018
    Sean Moran

    Rep. Tom MacArthur (R-NJ) told Breitbart News in an exclusive interview on Friday that he wants “strong, secure borders,” while his Democrat opponent Andy Kim wants to impeach President Donald Trump, abolish the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency (ICE), and create open borders.

    MacArthur, a two-term congressman, faces off against Andy Kim, a Democrat with far-left ties who has tried to paint himself as a moderate. Kim founded and serves as the board of director of Rise Stronger, a far-left group dedicated to resisting President Donald Trump’s agenda. MacArthur even pointed out that Andy Kim has “been endorsed by the New Jersey Communist Party.”

    Congressman MacArthur told Breitbart News, “You got to his website and he’s aligned himself with resistance groups that have called for jihad against the United States, promoting books by cop killers, and 9/11 conspiracy theorists, domestic terrorists, I could go on, but this is a guy who is raising a lot of money so he can paint himself as a moderate.”

    Rep. MacArthur said that Kim’s organization has promoted books written by cop killers such as Mumia Abu-Jamal, anti-Semites, 9/11 conspiracy theorists, and domestic terrorists such as Bill Ayers.

    On one occasion in July, Kim refused 16 times to answer whether he would support abolishing ICE and then later admitted that he would oppose abolishing the nation’s immigration enforcement agency.

    The New Jersey Republican then suggested that Kim’s unwillingness to answer whether he would support abolishing ICE shows that he is split between whether to support his far-left allies or whether to continue presenting as a moderate Democrat.

    “I think his unwillingness to answer that question until someone scripted him is really telling. He was asked 16 times and then waited days before [saying whether] he would abolish ICE or not,” MacArthur contended. “It would take me a nanosecond to answer that question; it’s where most illegal drugs are coming from—over the southern border. We have criminals over the southern borders, and these people want open borders, just shut down the law enforcement agency that’s helping them.”

    Congressman MacArthur also chastised his Democratic opponent for filing his taxes in Washington, DC, to receive a tax break on his nearly $1 million condo.

    “At the same time, he repeatedly told New Jerseyans that he lives here and vote here and run for office here, and at the same time told Washington, DC, that he lived there so he could take a significant tax break on his $900,000 condo in Washington,” MacArthur told Breitbart News. “He’s a tax cheat, and when he got caught, he had to write them a check.”

    MacArthur said that Kim also flip-flopped on his support for President Trump’s Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. The American Gross Domestic Product (GDP) rose to 4.1 percent in the second quarter of 2018, which is the fastest rate since 2014.

    “This isn’t the first time he delayed on this—he totally resisted the tax cuts until he found out the people in the district might like them and then said, ‘I might not be so quick to overturn them,’” MacArthur said.

    In contrast, MacArthur said, “People know where I stand whether they agree or disagree with me, I am straight with folks, I think I owe them that. I supported the tax cuts because I think they were good for the country and I think they were good for my state. You’re now seeing the results—low unemployment, high growth, this is an economic boom for the country.”

    After Paul Ryan failed to get the original Obamacare repeal effort, otherwise known as the American Health Care Act (AHCA), through the House last year, then-Tuesday Group co-chairman MacArthur teamed up with House Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows (R-NC) to pass an overhauled Obamacare repeal package through the House.

    “I tried to improve the health care system; my opponent wants a government-run healthcare system, I think it’s a rotten idea,” MacArthur explained. “I don’t want a healthcare system with all of the friendliness of the IRS. That’s bad for my constituents.”

    The New Jersey Republican did not endorse House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) or Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) to replace the outgoing Speaker Paul Ryan. However, MacArthur said he has “done a lot of work with Jim Jordan and we are friends, and I also have a lot of respect for Kevin, he’s a smart guy.”

    Congressman MacArthur said that, if re-elected to Congress, he will work towards cutting burdensome taxes and regulations and ensuring a strong border, while suggesting that his opponent would push for impeachment of President Trump, abolishing ICE, and socialized medicine.

    MacArthur said, “First, I would continue to push for getting past Washington dysfunction and getting things actually done. One, I think that we need to stand strong on the world stage, I am committed to strong, secure borders, we cannot have people wandering into the country when they want to, we cannot have drugs and gang members and others coming into the country because we do not have the fortitude to protect our borders.”

    The Congressman continued, “I think for Andy Kim, it’s impeachment, there’s no question if the Democrats take over the House that they will move to take out the president, he will support Nancy Pelosi and will support that agenda. Eliminating or weakening ICE to the point where we cannot protect our borders is something that he will no doubt push for. He will push for a European-style takeover of health care, socialized medicine.”

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    Tom Mac Arthur has a D voting record from numbers.

    Voted in favor of the Goodlatte-Ryan-Denham Amnesty bill, H.R. 6136, that would granted amnesty to at least 1.8 million illegal aliens
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    So you prefer the open borders Democrat. Wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    So you prefer the open borders Democrat. Wow.
    Did I say that? NO!

    I simply pointed out his voting record and how he voted on HR 6136

    IMO, it is a gag a maggot situation.
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    NumbersUSA who gave him that rating supported HR 6136 as did Center for Immigration Studies, Mark Krikorian, as did FAIR. We opposed the bill here because of the DACA amnesty, which in the Goodlatte bill was originally just the 690,000 existing DACAs, I don't know if that was upped later or not. The Grassley bill in the Senate had the 1.8 million DACAs.

    If Republicans don't win the midterms, which means working to elect every Republican on the ballots in November, we're going to wish we'd supported those bills which both met the 4 pillars and 70 point plan of Donald J Trump to fix this immigration mess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    So you prefer the open borders Democrat. Wow.
    Opposing one person doesn't mean you support the other. For example, I've never voted for or supported a Democrat, however, there have also been a lot of Republicans I didn't support.

    With that said, I understand what you're saying, but sometimes folks find it difficult to choose which snake they want to get bit by .... rattlesnake or copperhead.



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    Why would it be difficult? If you want to call Republicans who have blocked every amnesty they could since 1986 "snakes", that's fine, i just don't know why. If you want to call a Republican who gets a $5 billion amendment for the wall and border security into an appropriations bill because he also wants to get rid of "country caps" on green cards to make it merit-based, that's fine, I just don't know why. If you want to confuse a Republican who didn't say "nay" to an amendment with a Democrat who introduced the amendment to expand asylum seeking, that's fine, I just don't know why.

    We have to learn to oppose a policy or position without destroying the people we need to make any progress for our cause. Otherwise, we'll have another 15 years of stopping amnesty but never stopping illegal immigration.

    Do you understand why the theme song at all the Trump Rallies was the Rolling Stones "you can't always get what you want"? Because it's a great truth which Trump understands better than most people, it's not what you want, it's what you can get. If someone is sitting there earning $20,000 a year and is on Medicaid and Food Stamps, and they decide they want a $200,000 job, that's fine, but when an employer offers them a full time job that pays $60,000 a year plus great benefits, would you admire them for turning it down because they want a job that pays $200,000 a year? No, I don't think so, I think you'd call them stupid. But then who knows, you might applaud them for standing by their "principles".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Why would it be difficult? If you want to call Republicans who have blocked every amnesty they could since 1986 "snakes", that's fine, i just don't know why. If you want to call a Republican who gets a $5 billion amendment for the wall and border security into an appropriations bill because he also wants to get rid of "country caps" on green cards to make it merit-based, that's fine, I just don't know why. If you want to confuse a Republican who didn't say "nay" to an amendment with a Democrat who introduced the amendment to expand asylum seeking, that's fine, I just don't know why.

    We have to learn to oppose a policy or position without destroying the people we need to make any progress for our cause. Otherwise, we'll have another 15 years of stopping amnesty but never stopping illegal immigration.

    Do you understand why the theme song at all the Trump Rallies was the Rolling Stones "you can't always get what you want"? Because it's a great truth which Trump understands better than most people, it's not what you want, it's what you can get. If someone is sitting there earning $20,000 a year and is on Medicaid and Food Stamps, and they decide they want a $200,000 job, that's fine, but when an employer offers them a full time job that pays $60,000 a year plus great benefits, would you admire them for turning it down because they want a job that pays $200,000 a year? No, I don't think so, I think you'd call them stupid. But then who knows, you might applaud them for standing by their "principles".
    The Seven Amnesties Passed by Congress
    1. Immigration and Reform Control Act (IRCA), 1986: A blanket amnesty for some 2.7 million illegal aliens
    2. Section 245(i) Amnesty, 1994: A temporary rolling amnesty for 578,000 illegal aliens
    3. Section 245(i) Extension Amnesty, 1997: An extension of the rolling amnesty created in 1994
    4. Nicaraguan Adjustment and Central American Relief Act (NACARA) Amnesty, 1997: An amnesty for close to one million illegal aliens from Central America
    5. Haitian Refugee Immigration Fairness Act Amnesty (HRIFA), 1998: An amnesty for 125,000 illegal aliens from Haiti
    6. Late Amnesty, 2000: An amnesty for some illegal aliens who claim they should have been amnestied under the 1986 IRCA amnesty, an estimated 400,000 illegal aliens
    7. LIFE Act Amnesty, 2000: A reinstatement of the rolling Section 245(i) amnesty, an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens

    LOL. I see you're still staying away from discussing the Price amendment and the other amendments that will expand on our current guest worker programs. Yep, Trump's new buddy Yoder is responsible for that!

    I know exactly why you've jumped to Yoder's defense as I'm sure other can see it too.

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    MW wrote:

    I know exactly why you've jumped to Yoder's defense as I'm sure other can see it too.
    I certainly hope others can see. It's crucial they do. I defend Yoder because he's a Republican incumbent, and most likely to win the primary. If someone else wins the Republican primary, I'll defend and support them. I've made it clear my position is:

    VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2018!!!

    As to the other part of your post, I said Republicans have defeated every amnesty since 1986 that we could. Sometimes we can't. Back then, it was near impossible. There's an old saying, have the courage to change the things you can, the serenity to accept the things you can't, and the wisdom to know the difference.

    Did Trump end Executive Branch "DACA"? Yes. GOOD!

    Did Congress pass a "Dreamer" or DACA" bill? No. GOOD!

    Do we still have a Court-forced DACA? Yes. BAD!

    Is Trump changing the Courts as fast as he can? Yes. GOOD!

    Are Republicans in Congress helping him do that? Yes. GOOD!

    Why are there more Democrats in the United States than Republicans? Because too many "Republicans" feed DemoQuacks steak on a silver platter while eating their own. You need to stop it. Politics is about votes and winning elections. If you don't win, you can't fix shit.
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    Excerpt:

    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    MW wrote:

    I certainly hope others can see. It's crucial they do. I defend Yoder because he's a Republican incumbent, and most likely to win the primary.
    Yep, and the fact that Trump came out in support of him wouldn't have anything to do with it.

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