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    Trump can't be shamed into a DACA deal, even with a government shutdown looming

    Trump can't be shamed into a DACA deal, even with a government shutdown looming

    Democrats and the usual suspect Trump opponents are again calling him a racist.
    The strategy is being used again in hopes of shaming him into doing what they want on the DACA rules.
    It isn't working now and hasn't worked every time they've tried to do this to Trump since he first announced his candidacy.

    Jake Novak
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    Updated 12 Hours Ago CNBC.com

    Once again, President Donald Trump's opponents and his constant critics in the news media are calling him a racist. It's been the go-to response to him from Democrats and even several Republicans who have thought this is a foolproof weapon against him since he first announced his candidacy for president in 2015.

    How's that working out for them?

    The fact is the charge of racism doesn't work very well on Trump. But folks keep trying it anyway.

    It still seems to be the strategy right now in the battle over the budget and the special DACA protections for the children of illegal immigrants. That's how it's playing out after Illinois Democrat Sen. Dick Durbin accused Trump of making the now-infamous "s---hole" comment about Haiti and African countries last week. Frantic depictions of those comments as definitive proof of Trump's racism have dominated the news cycle ever since.

    The goal now seems to be to use this racism-branding tactic in order to shame Trump into bending to the Democrats' will. On Monday, Durbin revealed he's pursuing that shaming strategy, telling the Chicago Sun-Times that, "if President Trump is not a racist, he can prove it" by making a deal on the DACA legislation.

    Good luck with that.

    The reason the shaming strategy is a long shot this time and has failed in the past is because it's nearly impossible to shame or even scare Trump at all. It's even harder to shame him into doing anything.

    Look at the president's tweets and public statements every time he is criticized. Does he ever sound or act like a guy who even considers contrition? Donald Trump is a man who almost never chooses to stay above the fray no matter who is attacking him and how they do it. This was his well-documented behavior before he was a candidate, when he was a candidate, and even as president.

    The shaming game has its own special hall of shame when it comes to its ineffectiveness. The highlights are:

    It not only failed to get then-candidate Trump to stop talking about Mexican illegal immigration after his first speech as a candidate, the issue became the hallmark of his campaign.

    Calling Trump anti-Muslim because of his immigration ban on several predominantly Muslim countries produced only the slightest tweaks to the policy and no real backing down. Legal challenges to the ban have only enraged and hardened Trump's resolve even more as they continue to be upheld by the Supreme Court.

    Even when racism isn't a factor, shaming Trump doesn't work. The many critics of the GOP tax reform bill found that out the hard way when he continued to push for the bill and eventually got it across the finish line. That was despite the constant depiction of the bill by its opponents as a shameful boon to the rich. Former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers even said 10,000 people will die per year in America because of the tax bill. That didn't deter the president at all.

    So, predictably, Trump is responding the opposite way to this latest shaming attempt. He's now toggling back and forth between taking a harder line on immigration policy and insisting he's no racist in his public comments and tweets.

    That's a far cry from Trump's statement before the "s---hole" controversy when he said he'd sign any DACA compromise bipartisan congressional leaders came up with.

    If the Democrats really are concerned about protecting the so-called "Dreamer" immigrants, there's really no excuse for them to be surprised by what's occurred over the last few days. Now, the chances are much greater that the Democrats will have to move to shut down the government when the budget deadline passes on Friday. Worse for them, their bargaining position on behalf of the DACA recipients is weakened now that the focus on the vulgar comments in a closed door meeting has flipped the president from compliant to defiant.

    Government shutdowns are a tricky matter. Politicians usually run for the hills at the mere chance that they may be blamed for a shutdown. That's a good thing for people who like government compromise because shutdowns are always the result of a failed budget vote and it takes a 60 votes in the Senate to pass a budget.

    With that in mind, congressional Republicans began placing a bet that the Democrats wouldn't want to be seen as causing a shutdown over the DACA issue last year. They were right to the point that the Democrats did agree to push off the matter for a month with a temporary spending bill.

    But now, the Democrats are close to proudly promising to shut the government down over this issue. Yes, polls frequently show clear majorities of Americans support allowing "Dreamers" to stay in the U.S. provided they meet certain requirements. But there are also polls that show just as many voters support tougher immigration laws. And most damning of all for Democrats, the overall immigration issue actually remains a relatively low priority for most voters. A Morning Consult/Politico poll released just two months ago showed that only 29 percent of respondents thought extending the DACA protections should be a priority for Congress.

    But based on the uproar over Trump's comments alone, the Democrats are willing to play with government shutdown fire.

    So America's political scene is dominated by two enduring spectacles at the moment. First, we have a president who says politically incorrect and vulgar things with regularity and has no shame or remorse about it. Second, we have the Democratic Party and most of Trump's opponents clinging to and doubling down on a demonstrably failed strategy.

    It's not clear who "wins" in this remarkable exchange. But we do know that the losers are millions of Americans who rely on a functioning government, clear immigration status, and politicians with some grip on reality.

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    It's not clear who "wins" in this remarkable exchange. But we do know that the losers are millions of Americans who rely on a functioning government, clear immigration status, and politicians with some grip on reality.
    I think it's very clear who is going to "win" in this "remarkable exchange". If President Trump holds the line on his position, even if it means a government shutdown to get it, then every American citizen, worker and taxpayer wins for generations. That's what this is about for Trump, Trump Republicans and Trump Supporters, making sure AMERICANS WIN. This debate, this SHOWDOWN isn't about Haiti, El Salvador, Honduras, Africa, Norway or any other foreign country. This SHOWDOWN is about what's best for American citizens, workers and taxpayers. It's not even about DACAs, they're just the wedge issue to try to do what's best for Americans when you don't have 60 votes in the US Senate.

    I say hold the line, walk away, pass the budget, blame the DemoQuacks for all our woes, kick ass in the mid-terms, and come back in 2019 with 60 Republican votes in the US Senate, a solid majority in the House of Representatives and pass the immigration bills we want and need, free of amnesty blackmail.
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