Thread: Trump Catch and release, A South Texas Bus Terminal

Originally Posted by Judy

Jeff Sessions. He meant well, he thought he was sending a "tough on crime" message, but it was just a truly dumb and stupid idea. They should have all been turned away or deported at the border by Border Patrol and kept Justice Department out of it entirely.

The let them in to "prosecute" them was some hair-brained idea put forth by Jeff Sessions this spring. He wants to detain them, separate them from the kids, and prosecute the adults/parents to let them know that if you enter the US illegally, you will be prosecuted. He went all the way to the Border to hold a press conference to send out this message.

Jeff Sessions is the AG---he is not the CIC, therefore he can not put the military on the border to STOP them from coming in. Jeff didn't let them in, he is trying to deal with the situation after they were let in.

Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders

Jeff Sessions is the AG---he is not the CIC, therefore he can not put the military on the border to STOP them from coming in. Jeff didn't let them in, he is trying to deal with the situation after they were let in.

No, that's not what happened. Tramp said don't let them in, tell them "we're closed." So, the ones were turning themselves into Border Patrol at the Ports of Entry were being rejected and turned back by BP by rejecting their claims as false and fraudulent. Those that were sneaking in were also being turned back and deported at the border within the 100 mile rule they operate on. Then Sessions goes to the border to make his announcement that he wants to prosecute the frauds and the ones sneaking in.

Trump ordered troops to the border months ago through DOD and the states.

Nothing is working. The troops are fixing flats and shoveling horse shit. BP is no longer turning them back but instead arresting them for fraud and illegal entry and forwarding them into the process for detention.

Nothing is working. We need a different plan.

Originally Posted by Judy

No, that's not what happened. Tramp said don't let them in, tell them "we're closed."

Trump ordered troops to the border months ago through DOD and the states.

Nothing is working. The troops are fixing flats and shoveling horse shit.

don't forget he added the 6th Branch the Space Force while the invasion on our Southern Border continues.

If it was fiction instead of real life, would make a great comedy movie.

LOL!! No he hasn't. He's ordered DOD to prepare plans and programs for one to submit to Congress. He announced it with an Executive Order because they weren't doing what he was asking them to do. Congress will have to authorize whatever this new proposed branch is to be and do. He sees this as the next frontier and wants our country to be at least somewhat prepared to defend ourselves and not be caught with our pants down. What is wrong with that?! It's not something that will help him, this is far into the future, he's just doing what he thinks and feels needs to be done now to prepare our country for that time in the future. Why do you criticize him for that? You're acting like those people who opposed Reagan's strategic defense initiative, known as the "star wars program", yet almost 40 years later everyone is counting their chickens that this program will intercept a nuclear ICBM launched by North Korea and save California.

Originally Posted by Judy

No, that's not what happened. Tramp said don't let them in, tell them "we're closed." So, the ones were turning themselves into Border Patrol at the Ports of Entry were being rejected and turned back by BP by rejecting their claims as false and fraudulent. Those that were sneaking in were also being turned back and deported at the border within the 100 mile rule they operate on. Then Sessions goes to the border to make his announcement that he wants to prosecute the frauds and the ones sneaking in.

Trump ordered troops to the border months ago through DOD and the states.

Nothing is working. The troops are fixing flats and shoveling horse shit. BP is no longer turning them back but instead arresting them for fraud and illegal entry and forwarding them into the process for detention.

Nothing is working. We need a different plan.

Such B.S.! They've been pouring in for some time now! You turn them back and they just go to another section of border and try again until they finally get in undetected. Just turning them back won't work now, nor has it ever worked. There has to be a deterrent. The ones turning themselves in at the Port of Entry for asylum were not being turned back or rejected for the most part. However, now that Sessions has changed the policy where domestic violence and gang violence claims are no longer considered a credible fear, fewer asylum claimants are making it through the initial screening which is done by border patrol.

Sessions done the right thing by telling the illegal aliens the border is closed to them and should they attempt to enter illegally they will be prosecuted. Just shoving them back across the border with no consequences does not work and never has!

The reason we are having asylum claimants and illegals released is because some liberal court has said kids can't remain in detention beyond 20 days and parents can't be separated from their children. That and the fact that we don't have enough detention space is our primary problems.

If Sheriff Arpaio can detain U.S. citizen prisoners in tents and our U.S. citizen soldiers can spend months and months in tents, we should be able to detain as many illegals in tent cities on the border as needed .... assuming we can get that 20 day child ruling overruled.

93,365 Mexicans deported in the first 5 months of 2018

So what does Border Patrol do with the 80% of asylum seekers who fail their credible fear interview under Sessions plan?

Originally Posted by Judy

So what does Border Patrol do with the 80% of asylum seekers who fail their credible fear interview under Sessions plan?

I don't know how many times I have to tell you this, but Sessions is not responsible for detention or catch & release. That falls under the duties and responsibilities of DHS, not the DOJ. You need to direct your question to the Secretary of Homeland Security, Kirsjen Nielsen.

Border Patrol does the initial credible fear screening for asylum claimants and BP works for DHS. SESSIONS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!

Originally Posted by MW

I don't know how many times I have to tell you this, but Sessions is not responsible for detention or catch & release. That falls under the duties and responsibilities of DHS, not the DOJ. You need to direct your question to the Secretary of Homeland Security, Kirsjen Nielsen.

Border Patrol does the initial credible fear screening for asylum claimants and BP works for DHS. SESSIONS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!

What does Border Patrol do with the illegal aliens who fail their credible fear interviews? What does Border Patrol do with the illegal aliens who pass their credible fear interview?

Originally Posted by Judy

What does Border Patrol do with the illegal aliens who fail their credible fear interviews? What does Border Patrol do with the illegal aliens who pass their credible fear interview?

Okay, now you're asking a different question. Of course you know I've already answered this for you before.

If the asylum claimant fails their credible fear screening, they become eligible for immediate removal. However, A detainee who has not established a credible fear can request a review of the decision in a hearing by an immigration judge. This is a last resort effort. Should the judge agree with the initial findings by Border Patrol, the detainee will be deported without further recourse.

A detainee who has established a credible fear of persecution will be allowed to apply for asylum, either while in detention or after having been released. That's a call that rest with DHS. It's these releases that must be stopped!