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    Trump Plans 'Potential Pathway to Citizenship' for Foreign H-1B Workers John Binder

    Trump Plans 'Potential Pathway to Citizenship' for Foreign H-1B Workers

    John Binder

    President Trump says he plans to offer foreign workers imported to the United States by Silicon Valley tech conglomerates and multinational corporations every year a “potential path to citizenship” to encourage so-called “highly skilled” migration.

    Every year, more than 100,000 foreign workers are brought to the U.S. on the H-1B visa and allowed to stay for up to six years. There are about 650,000 H-1B visa foreign workers in the U.S. at any given moment. Americans are often laid off in the process and forced to train their foreign replacements, as highlighted by Breitbart News. More than 85,000 Americans a year potentially lose their jobs to foreign labor through the H-1B visa program.

    In a tweet Friday morning, Trump reversed course on his “Buy American, Hire American” executive order, saying he wants to offer a pathway to U.S. citizenship to the hundreds of thousands of foreign workers living in the country on the H-1B visa.

    “H1-B holders in the United States can rest assured that changes are soon coming which will bring both simplicity and certainty to your stay, including a potential path to citizenship,” Trump said. “We want to encourage talented and highly skilled people to pursue career options in the U.S.”
    H1-B holders in the United States can rest assured that changes are soon coming which will bring both simplicity and certainty to your stay, including a potential path to citizenship. We want to encourage talented and highly skilled people to pursue career options in the U.S.

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 11, 2019

    Trump most recently told the media he wanted technology corporations to import and hire more H-1B foreign workers for coveted, high-paying white-collar jobs instead of those companies seeking American graduates in the tech fields.

    “It is contradictory that Trump wants to raise wages for Americans and also bring in more workers who will cut salaries,” an American technology professional told Breitbart News’ Neil Munro. “It is political suicide … because the tech workers believed [in 2016] he was the only one who stood up for them.”

    While Trump is now looking to streamline the H-1B visa to make it easier for employers to import foreign workers to take American jobs, the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) had been considering a regulatory change to tighten the program in order to ensure that American workers are not being readily replaced by mostly Indian male nationals.

    Trump’s tweet comes as business attempted to outsource nearly 420,000 American jobs in Fiscal Year 2018 to H-1B foreign workers rather than hiring U.S. workers.
    Business Aims to Outsource 420K U.S. Jobs to Foreign Workers in 2018, Outpacing the Population of Tampa https://t.co/lX0NVYf6DM

    — John Binder 👽 (@JxhnBinder) December 13, 2018

    On the campaign trail and in his “Buy American, Hire American” executive order, Trump promised to reform the H-1B visa program to stem the tide of American workers being laid off by multinational corporations and forced to train their foreign replacements.

    The most famous case was that of the laid-off American Disney workers who rallied with Trump on the 2016 presidential campaign trail, trusting that he would stop companies from importing foreign workers instead of hiring qualified Americans.

    Last year, the laid-off Americans who sued Disney for replacing them with foreign H-1B workers announced they would be dropping their lawsuit after years of attempting to hold the corporation accountable.

    As Breitbart News previously reported, more than 2.7 million H-1B foreign workers have been approved to come to the U.S. to take American jobs between 2007 and 2017. During that same period, businesses tried to outsource almost 3.5 million American jobs to foreign workers instead of hiring Americans.

    About four million young Americans enter the workforce each year, many looking for white-collar jobs in the STEM fields. Those Americans’ prospects of finding work are crippled by the country’s legal immigration process, which admits more than 1.5 million immigrants and hundreds of thousands of foreign visa workers annually. Already, the wage-cutting business scheme has led to foreign-born workers overwhelmingly outnumbering Americans in the tech industry in Silicon Valley, California.



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    The H-1B program has the same effect as outsourcing jobs overseas. Legal US citizens are replaced with foreign workers who work for lower wages. Oftentimes the US citizens being replaced by the H-1B foreigners, who are willing to work for lower wages, have the added indignity of actually having to train their replacements!! It's just a way for the greedy tech companies like Google, Facebook and Amazon to make even more billions of dollars off the backs of legal US citizens. It hurts all of us by keeping our wages lower than they should be if the free market is allowed to function properly. NO MORE H-1Bers!!!
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    potential pathway to citizenship = green card
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    NO GREEN CARD

    GIVE THEM THE "GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY" CARD!

    WE NEED TO PAUSE ALL IMMIGRATION, WE NEED A BREAK, WE NEED TO CLEAN UP THE MESS AT THE BORDER, THE VISA OVERSTAYS, THE GANGS, DRUGS, HOMELESS, TPS, 25 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS AND PAY DOWN OUR 22 TRILLION IN DEBT!

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    “It is contradictory that Trump wants to raise wages for Americans and also bring in more workers who will cut salaries,” an American technology professional told Breitbart News’ Neil Munro. “It is political suicide … because the tech workers believed [in 2016] he was the only one who stood up for them.”
    Unfortunately, it would appear their horse is going to let them down in the stretch.

    Yep, importing more foreign labor to take American jobs is no different than exporting American jobs to foreign countries. Trump knows this.

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    More foreign labor won't be the result of what Trump is doing, it will be less. John Binder got it wrong. He read a tweet but didn't understand what it said.

    H1B's already have a pathway to citizenship. They are all eligible for a green card. The green card is the pathway to citizenship. Under the present system according to our Rule of Law, they are eligible for green cards, so they apply for them and wait in line like everyone else, in the meantime, under the Rule of Law, they can renew their H1B a year at a time while they wait for a determination on their green card application which can take years. While they are in this limbo, employers take advantage of them to undercut American Workers and enjoy a tax advantage. When the H1B gets their green card, they are no longer taken advantage of by their employers because they have certainty in their position, demand higher wages or leave and go work for someone else. As a result they no longer undercut American Workers. Unless companies can save by hiring H1B's for long periods of time, there is no advantage to the employer to hire these foreign workers, so they'll hire Americans which reduces H1B's being used and increases good jobs for Americans at higher wages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patbrunz View Post

    Every year, more than 100,000 foreign workers are brought to the U.S. on the H-1B visa and allowed to stay for up to six years. There are about 650,000 H-1B visa foreign workers in the U.S. at any given moment. Americans are often laid off in the process and forced to train their foreign replacements, as highlighted by Breitbart News. More than 85,000 Americans a year potentially lose their jobs to foreign labor through the H-1B visa program.
    Anyone remember the rallies during the campaign and Trump bringing laid off workers who had to train their replacement to the stage?

    Oh, how that man uses people, the laid off workers, the Angel families.

    How soon he thinks we forget!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    potential pathway to citizenship = green card



    How do you know pathway to citizenship = green card? Do you have inside sources?

    You just said they already have a green card, so giving them a green card certainly would not be news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    More foreign labor won't be the result of what Trump is doing, it will be less. John Binder got it wrong. He read a tweet but didn't understand what it said.

    H1B's already have a pathway to citizenship. They are all eligible for a green card. The green card is the pathway to citizenship. Under the present system according to our Rule of Law, they are eligible for green cards, so they apply for them and wait in line like everyone else, in the meantime, under the Rule of Law, they can renew their H1B a year at a time while they wait for a determination on their green card application which can take years. While they are in this limbo, employers take advantage of them to undercut American Workers and enjoy a tax advantage. When the H1B gets their green card, they are no longer taken advantage of by their employers because they have certainty in their position, demand higher wages or leave and go work for someone else. As a result they no longer undercut American Workers. Unless companies can save by hiring H1B's for long periods of time, there is no advantage to the employer to hire these foreign workers, so they'll hire Americans which reduces H1B's being used and increases good jobs for Americans at higher wages.
    Always the apologist.

    Anything to get elected. Flashback to Trump's own words on H-1B during the campaign:

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    GOP front-runner Donald Trump said the H-1B hurts American-born workers and that he would end it outright. U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio said the program needs to be better policed, while Sen. Ted Cruz simply said the U.S. needs to update its immigration laws for the 21st century.

    “I know the H-1B very well. … We shouldn’t have it; it’s very, very bad for workers,” said Trump, with Cruz on his left and Rubio on his right during the CNN-sponsored debate, the last before crucial primaries next week in Florida, Ohio, Illinois, North Carolina and Missouri. Rubio said that if a company is caught abusing the H-1B, “they should never be allowed to use it again.”
    https://www.ibtimes.com/what-h-1b-vi...ill-it-2334996
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