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    Trump rejects moderate immigration deal, wants 'whole package'

    Trump rejects moderate immigration deal, wants 'whole package'

    By Susan Heavey
    ,ReutersMay 24, 2018

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Thursday rejected a push by moderate congressional Republicans for a "Dreamer" immigration deal, saying he would only back sweeping immigration legislation that met all of his demands, including a U.S-Mexico border wall.
    "Unless it includes a wall, and I mean a wall, a real wall, and unless it includes very strong border security, there’ll be no approvals from me," Trump told Fox News. Any bill would also have to end a visa lottery program and curb visas for legal immigrants' relatives, he added.

    "It’s time to get the whole package," he said in an interview on the "Fox and Friends" program taped on Wednesday and aired on Thursday.

    Some centrist Republicans in the U.S. House of Representatives are negotiating a bill to address the future of young immigrants known as "Dreamers," who were brought to the United States illegally as children.

    A group of more conservative House Republicans, however, has said they are closing in on a measure with tough new controls on legal and illegal immigration that would win Trump's support. That plan, however, is unlikely to win over more moderate Republicans or Democrats.

    House Speaker Paul Ryan has so far avoided pressure from both sides of his caucus to take up the contentious issue ahead of the November elections that could create headaches for Republicans as they seek to maintain control of the House and the Senate.

    Ryan has said he is working with the White House on a plan that Trump would sign into law. He told reporters on Thursday that members were still seeking a consensus but gave no timeline for any action.

    Moderate House Republicans want to force a series of votes on four separate immigration bills in defiance of the House Republican leadership, hoping to join with Democrats to pull off a rare procedural maneuver.

    The bipartisan measure would put "Dreamer" immigrants on a path to citizenship and includes border security but no wall funding.

    The plan backed by conservative Republicans, spearheaded by House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte, offers "Dreamers" temporary protections but not citizenship in addition to immigration curbs.

    A third measure would simply protect "Dreamers" from deportation, while a fourth from Ryan remains largely unwritten.

    Ryan warned that forcing votes "will not produce a result that will make it into law."

    Trump told Fox he was optimistic that Democrats would get on board. "I think there's a lot of pressure on the Democrats to get it approved, frankly, and also to change the immigration laws to toughen them up a lot," he said.

    The 2012 Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program protects around 700,000 young adults, mostly Hispanics, from deportation and gives them work permits for two-year periods, after which they must reapply.

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    Trump Revs Immigration Reform for November: ‘We’re Going to Change the System’

    24 May 2018
    Neil Munro

    President Donald Trump shoved cheap-labor immigration back into the November election by suggesting he would veto any amnesty which emerges from the discharge petition process, and also by urging Congress to pass his four-part immigration package.

    “I think it’s time to get the whole package,” Trump told Fox News’ anchor Brian Kilmeade. “It’s not such a big deal, Brian. It’s time to get the whole package … We’re going to change the system — we have no choice for the good of our country.”

    Trump also rejected proposals for Congress to pass a quick amnesty for at least 2 million DACA illegals via the discharge-petition process.

    “Unless it includes a wall, and I mean a wall, a real wall, and unless it includes very strong border security, there’ll be no approvals from me because I have to either approve it or not,” Trump said in the Thursday morning broadcast. He added:

    "A [visa] lottery is ridiculous, you know. I mean, they take people from the lottery where you can imagine these countries are not putting their finest in that lottery, so I don’t like the lottery. Chain migration is a disaster, and you look at what’s going on where somebody comes in who’s bad and yet they’ll have 24 members of a family, not one of them do you want in this country. So chain migration is terrible, lottery is terrible … [and] we have to get rid of catch and release."

    Trump also emphasized the opposition from Democrats, saying “we have the worst immigration laws in the entire world by far .. it is because of the Democrats. It is because of Chuck Schumer. It is because of Nancy Pelosi.”

    “There is a lot of pressure on the Democrats to get it approved,” he said.

    The four-part reforms sought by Trump would trim the inflow of legal immigrants by eliminating the visa lottery and chain migration. Over ten years, those changes would gradually pressure employers to raise wages for tens of millions of Americans and also help them buy houses by nudging down demand and real-estate prices. Those changes are strongly opposed by U.S. business groups who provide a large share of donations to the GOP’s leadership.

    Trump’s four-part legislation would also fill many of the asylum and “credible fear” loopholes in border law that are used by cartel and migrants to get work-permits for hundreds of thousands migrants, many of whom need to repay their smuggling debts to cartels.

    Trump’s declaration is a sharp blow to the current media-magnified, business-backed campaign to pass an amnesty via the discharge-petition process and is a populist rejection of the establishment’s bipartisan overall push for more cheap-labor immigration.

    Reuters’ headline, for example, declared: “Trump rejects moderate immigration deal, wants ‘whole package.”

    It is also a strategic pushback because the bipartisan establishment wants to exclude debate over immigration from the November election. Trump’s comments — “I can tell you there is a mood right now for border security” — shows that he recognize the popularity of the populists’ pro-American immigration preferences.

    However, business groups are pushing hard to get an amnesty this summer and to get immigration out the midterm elections.

    For example, 21 Republicans — mostly from dairy districts or Latino-majority districts — have signed the discharge petition to help them get an amnesty vote in the House.

    If GOP Reps Jeff Denham and Chris Curbelo get 25 signatures, they will also get 193 Democratic signatures, giving them the 218 votes needed to stage a planned vote on the House floor on June 25. The complicated vote is expected to allow many GOP legislators to vote for a doomed pro-American bill — giving them a campaign-trail talking-point for November — but also allow them to vote for and pass a disguised amnesty bill sought by local farmers and national business groups.

    House Speaker Paul Ryan has the power to block the floor vote. So far, he has not publicly threatened to block the vote, or even to deny campaign funds and committee assignments to the petition Republicans as they split the party before the November election.

    GOP leaders are engaged in a closed-door negotiation to see if the discharge-petition GOP group can hammer out a compromise with mainstream conservatives and business-first GOP legislators, which would allow each group to display their support for their preferred policies. Trump’s threat of a veto will likely help the mainstream conservatives during the talks — partly because Democrats have strongly opposed any change to border-law loopholes.

    GOP leaders are not trying to block Denham’s discharge petition, said Rosemary Jenks, policy director at NumbersUSA:

    "I have watched for far too many years the leaders of both parties shut down discharge petitions in a heartbeat with [the withdrawal of] campaign financing and committee chairmanships. It has happened over and over for decades, yet is not happening here."

    Business groups are providing campaign aid to 11 of the 16 GOP signers who are candidates in the 2016 elections, as of May 23.

    Trump’s November bet on immigration politics is backed up by numerous polls — and his success in the 2016 election.

    Amnesty advocates rely on business-funded “Nation of Immigrants” push-polls to show apparent voter support for immigration and immigrants.

    But “choice” polls reveal most voters’ often-ignored preference that CEOs should hire Americans at decent wages before hiring migrants. Those Americans include many blue-collar Blacks, Latinos, and people who hide their opinions from pollsters. Similarly, the 2018 polls show that GOP voters are far more concerned about migration — more properly, the economics of migration — than they are concerned about illegal migration and MS-13, taxes, or the return of Rep. Nancy Pelosi.

    Trump’s policies are delivering higher wages and overtime to many employees, including African-American bakers in Chicago, Latino restaurant workers in Monterey, Calif., disabled people in Missouri, high schoolers, resort workers in Hilton Head, the construction industry, Superbowl workers, the garment industry, and workers at small businesses, and even Warren Buffett’s railroad workers.
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    Change the "system" to no amnesty, no path to stay, no taxpayer funded benefits and NO anchor babies.

    No papers, no rights, NO entry!

    No sob stories...out they go!
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