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    Housing Crisis in Colorado May Get Worse: Anti-Growth Initiatives Slated for Lakewood and Colorado

    Friday, August 11, 2017


    Denver’s housing market was recently named as one of the top four overvalued markets in the nation by CoreLogic (a leading provider of consumer, financial and property information), due to rising home prices as a result of a lack of inventory of homes for sale.

    The median sales price of a single-family home in Denver reached a record $407,000 in May, and statewide it topped $365,000.

    Experts have argued that in Denver alone, 16,000 to 18,000 new homes a year are needed to meet demand.

    Last year, only 11,038 homes were built in Denver according to MetroStudy.

    In Lakewood, the current median selling price for homes is $494,000 according to Lakewood realtors. Corelogic has predicted that the small supply of existing homes for sale and insufficient single-family construction will continue to put upward pressure on home prices.


    Despite the reported need for more residential housing, on July 28, 2017, a group named Lakewood Strategic Growth submitted petitions with more than 7,500 signatures supporting a proposed ordinance to impose a 1% annual limit on residential growth in Lakewood, Colorado, and to require Lakewood City Council approval of any projects containing 40 or more residential units.

    Only 5,165 signatures are required from registered voters to submit the proposed ordinance for a vote. The Lakewood City Council has until August 28th to review the validity of the submitted petitions.

    If the signatures are valid and sufficient, the City Council may adopt the anti-growth ordinance or if the City Council does not adopt the ordinance, it will be placed on the November 7th ballot to be decided by the Lakewood voters.

    The proposed ordinance is 14 pages long, contains 4,800 words, and includes a complex formula for setting allocations for construction of new residential homes.

    Under the proposed ordinance, only 650 housing units would be built in 2018 in Lakewood.

    A 300-unit apartment building would count as 300 housing units of the total 650 allowed.

    The backers of the Lakewood anti-growth ordinance contend that it is not a “no growth” initiative and is intended to manage growth in an effective manner. Lakewood Mayor, Adam Paul, recently published a letter in the Denver Post outlining his opposition to the anti-growth measure stating that it is “rife with unintended consequences” and that it will “make life more expensive for people already living in Lakewood”.

    Mayor Paul has said that restricting housing “will drive prices higher. . .and make Lakewood too expensive for teachers, police officers, firefighters”.

    The Denver Post recently reported that “the [Lakewood] proposal comes at a time when rents in the Denver area – especially in areas within and just beyond the city limits – are soaring and developers are working to keep up with the demand.

    A massive shortage of construction workers is making things worse.”
    A larger concern for Colorado developers and builders is that a statewide anti-growth measure, entitled “Limit on Local Housing Growth” (Initiative #4) may appear on the statewide ballot in Colorado as an initiated state statute or constitutional amendment in 2018.

    This statewide measure would establish a constitutional right to limit housing growth through countywide initiatives and referendums.

    Initiative #4 specifies that no permits to build new privately owned residential housing units would be issued beginning with the declaration of voter approval of Initiative #4 until January 1, 2019; and thereafter would limit annual private housing growth to 1% in the cities and counties of Broomfield and Denver and in the counties of Adams, Arapahoe, Boulder, Douglas, El Paso, Jefferson, Larimer and Weld for 2019 and 2020.

    Thereafter, limits in those cities and counties would continue unless local voters overturn them by ballot measures.
    A proponent of the statewide antigrowth Initiative #4 has been reported as stating that the growth in Colorado is “completely out of control.

    Excessive growth will bankrupt the state. There is already no money for highways.” (Denver Business Journal, December 1, 2016).

    The title of Initiative #4 was challenged, and the title was affirmed by the Colorado Supreme Court in May 2017. The form of the petition was approved on August 7th. The Colorado Secretary of State’s Office has a deadline of November 30, 2017, for the petition.

    Due to the passage of Amendment 71 in November 2016, signatures equal to at least 2% of the registered electors who reside in the state’s 35 Senate districts must be part of the total.

    In 2018, the number of signatures required for an initiated constitutional amendment/state statute is estimated to be 98,492. If sufficient signatures are gathered, Initiative #4 will appear on the ballot for the November 2018 general election.
    According to the nonpartisan Director of Research of the Colorado Legislative Council, the initial fiscal impact of Initiative #4 will be that the “value of existing housing units may increase in communities where there are binding growth limits, impacting homeowners and landlords.

    For Colorado residents that would like to move into communities with binding housing limits, this measure may make it more expensive to find homes to buy or rent.

    Limits on housing permits will also impact the distribution of construction employment, retail trade, and population within Colorado.”

    The fiscal impact estimate clearly predicts that if Initiative #4 is passed, the housing crisis in Colorado would worsen and home prices would increase in an already “overvalued” market.

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    There is something going on here.

    When you see multiple stories of something that really doesn't make sense - you know you are being flim-flammed.

    Think about it, everytime we see the media putting out story after story on one subject, it is half-truths or downright lies. It is designed to make you think one way.

    Now either these shortages do not exist, but home builders who hire illegals want some government money -

    OR - our government is planning on or already has brought in thousands and thousands of foreigners.

    As I said, I talked with someone in CO yesterday who told me, they were deliberately dozing housing they deemed uninhabitable. The government has hired a private corporation to do this.

    Now what exactly makes a house uninhabitable? Most of us know, but if you are being paid to demolish a house, and create a housing shortage, the definition of 'uninhabitable' might be different from yours and mine.

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    As the population of large cities increase they need more apartments and houses for the new people to live in.
    As kids move out of their parents homes they need an apartment or house to move into.
    When people get tired of living in an apartment in the city and decide to move to a new house of their own in the suburbs someone has to build it.
    As many small towns and cities lose population some of their old houses and apartments are no longer needed and get torn down.
    In large cities as some old apartments and houses age they need to be replaced with new modern places that people want to live in.
    Some people don't mind living in an old place.
    Some people want a nice new place that no one else has ever lived in.
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    Colorado in the top 10 for population growth - Denver Business Journal

    Dec 20, 2016 - Colorado added an estimated 91,726 people over the last year, for a total of 5,540,545, topping 5.5 ... Ahead of Colorado for percentage growth in population since last year: Utah (2.03 percent), ... August 15, 2017, 11:00am ...
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    Project to demolish 450 houses starts in Detroit

    By Corey Williams, Associated Press Writer
    Wed May 12, 2010 9:03 am ET

    DETROIT The war on vacant houses in Detroit took on new force Tuesday as officials announced plans to demolish about 450 of the most dangerous structures within the next two months, and immediately tore into the first home on the list.

    Crews collapsed the chimney of a two-story bungalow in northwest Detroit in a ceremonial start to the $4.5 million project backed by Wayne County and faith-based groups. It's the latest step in an aggressive effort to rid the city of thousands of vacant homes.

    "It's part of the rebirth we are going through," County Executive Robert Ficano said, surrounded by other local officials and a dozen religious leaders. "These are havens for drugs and other things."

    Detroit's mayor wants to tear down 10,000 vacant houses over the next four years and, with them, evict the illegal drug and weapons operations that often move in after residents move out.

    The house targeted Tuesday is among several dilapidated structures along a street dotted with vacant, weedy lots, and demolition work is expected to resume later this week. The county's project is funded through federal stimulus money.

    "We can't create new things unless the old has gone away," said the Rev. Edgar Vann, pastor of Second Ebenezer Church. "It's a real victory for the community. Now, we see a real opportunity here and leadership."

    Work was scheduled to continue later this week at the first home, and organizers hope to level the last house on their list within 45 days.

    There are about 33,000 vacant houses spread across Detroit, while another 50,000 homes are in foreclosure, Mayor Dave Bing has said.

    Bing is already using $20 million in federal stimulus funds to tear down about 6,000 vacant homes over the next two years, and he hopes to demolish 10,000 within the next four years if funding can be found.

    About 660 have been torn down since January, compared to 860 that were demolished in all of 2009. The 450 houses targeted by Wayne County are among 3,000 on Bing's demolition list this year.

    Detroit religious leaders were asked to compile a list of abandoned houses near their churches, said the Rev. Kenneth J. Flowers, pastor of Greater New Mt. Moriah Baptist Church.

    "Most of our churches are in target areas where there is blight," Flowers said.

    By removing the abandoned houses, it shows Detroit is not dead, he added.

    "We are alive with hope, vigor and vitality," Flowers said. "We are going to move our community forward. We do have a vision."

    Vacant houses have been a nuisance to communities and police for years in Detroit, but two recent events increased the calls to have them torn down.

    A Detroit police officer was fatally shot May 3 and four others were wounded while investigating a reported break-in and gunfire at a vacant duplex on Detroit's northeast side.

    Less than 12 hours later, officers found an assault rifle, loaded with armor-piercing bullets, in an empty house on the other side of town. Two shotguns and a semiautomatic handgun also were found.

    The number of abandoned and foreclosed homes has risen as Detroit's population plummeted. The 139-square-mile city was built for two million people, but could dip below 800,000 when 2010 Census numbers are collected.

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    Certainly, there is always a movement of people - to the city, from Mom and Dad's basement, etc.

    That's a given and not hard to understand. It's natural and has been happening in this country since it began.

    Suddenly, though if you believe all these stories, we need millions and millions more dwellings.

    Not that many moved out of the basement and yes, many are moving to the cities, but not overnight.


    What is causing it? Our natural population is not growing that much - granted illegals have bloated it, but that's been happening for decades.

    So why now?

    I mean we had a housing boom just a relatively short period of time, where many cities overbuilt - big time.

    Having been in the Las Vegas and Phoenix area during the boom, I saw entire housing projects being built and only speculators bought them. When the bottom fell out, a lot of people lost their shirts and the houses were vacant.

    In Phoenix, I saw citrus groves pulled down to build apartment complexes.

    Also, the story of the dozing of houses was in Denver. It had nothing to do with small towns.

    Again, when the media keeps beating you on the head with some story or idea, you need to stop and think. Surely, we have seen it happen many times in the past. They have an agenda - what it is, that's what we should try to ascertain.

    Just don't take it at face value. This many stories means something.

    Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nntrixie View Post
    . . . Just don't take it at face value. This many stories means something.

    Just a thought.
    Each of these stories from different cities from different months and even years was just the local newspapers informing the local people what new construction was going on in their area. They are all here at one time only because I am entertaining myself gathering them up. The stories on this thread are from 2010 to 2017 from many cities and states. That does not make it a conspiracy.
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    Oh, NO. Canada is in on it too.

    Canadian Home Builders Are on Pace for Best Year Since Recession

    Bloomberg-Aug 9, 2017
    Canadian home construction is on pace for its best year since the ... the industry on track for the most new residential construction since 2007 . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    Each of these stories from different cities from different months and even years was just the local newspapers informing the local people what new construction was going on in their area. They are all here at one time only because I am entertaining myself gathering them up. The stories on this thread are from 2010 to 2017 from many cities and states. That does not make it a conspiracy.
    OK - but I have read these on different sites.

    Perhaps you are the one posting there also - I don't know.

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    Demolishing Beijing's 'disorderly' development




    Yahoo News Photo StaffAugust 14, 2017


    • Workers prepare concrete roof slabs for removal from former migrant dwellings before their destruction at Dongsanqi village in the outskirts of Beijing, China, August 7, 2017. (Photo: Thomas Peter/Reuters) "
    • Trash and pieces of furniture are left behind in a vacated former migrant home that is scheduled for demolition at Dongsanqi village in the outskirts of Beijing, China, August 6, 2017. (Photo: Thomas Peter/Reuters) "
    • A man loads his belongings onto the flatbed of a tricycle as he moves out of his unit in a cluster of migrant dwellings that is slated for demolition at Dongsanqi village in the outskirts of Beijing, China, August 4, 2017. (Photo: Thomas Peter/Reuters) "


    Demolishing Beijing’s ‘disorderly’ development

    Workers prepare concrete roof slabs for removal from former migrant dwellings before their destruction at Dongsanqi village in the outskirts of Beijing, China, August 7, 2017. (Photo: Thomas Peter/Reuters)


    In a Beijing suburb, a crane hoists a concrete slab into the sky, removing a roof from a simple brick home that had once sheltered a small migrant family.
    Dongsanqi village is the latest community to be demolished under a municipal campaign to dismantle what the city authority says are unsafe dwellings following years of “disorderly” development.

    Zhu Xiangzhi, who lived in Dongsanqi with his grandson, has found temporary shelter in a converted welding shop while he looks for a new home and school.

    “Everyone is looking for their own place, but I still haven’t found (a place) anywhere,” said the rubbish collector from eastern Anhui province who moved to Beijing 20 years ago.


    China’s past three decades of rapid economic development spurred a mass migration of some 280 million workers from rural areas to big cities, many of them taking low-wage jobs in the manufacturing, construction and service sectors.


    Unable to secure official residency, which brings with it access to social welfare services and education, migrants found homes in ageing inner city buildings, overcrowded dormitories, basements and even sewers.


    Beijing’s municipal government launched a campaign this year to eradicate what it called an “urban disease” of illegal construction and unsafe buildings in the city of nearly 22 million people.


    Some 100 Beijing neighborhoods are to be revamped by 2020, the city government has said. This year it aims to remove 40 million sq m (48 million sq yards) of illegal structures, the equivalent of 5,000 soccer pitches. (Reuters)

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