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    U.S. workers shot in Mexico may be CIA employees

    U.S.. workers shot in Mexico may be CIA employees

    STRINGER/MEXICO/REUTERS - U.S. Ambassador to Mexico Earl Anthony Wayne (L) and Mexico's President Felipe Calderon sit together during an event in Mexico City August 28, 2012. Calderon on Tuesday promised justice for two U.S. agents as new details emerged on how they were allegedly shot at by federal police officers in plain clothes while heading to a Mexican marine base. Speaking alongside Wayne, Calderon said the incident should not dampen bilateral efforts to fight drug cartels.

    By William Booth and Greg Miller, Published: August 28The Washington Post

    TRES MARIAS, MEXICO — Mexican President Felipe Calderon apologized to the United States on Tuesday for an attack last week in which two U.S. government workers were wounded when Mexican federal police fired multiple rounds at their armored U.S. Embassy vehicle.

    Speaking at a forum on Mexico’s security situation, Calderon turned to U.S. Ambassador E. Anthony Wayne and promised that the Mexican attorney general would get to the bottom of the case. Calderon also suggested that 12 federal police officers arrested Monday for alleged involvement in the shooting might have ties to criminal organizations.

    Calderon’s comments coincided with new indications that the wounded U.S. officials were CIA employees. The agency link was first reported in the Mexican media. U.S. public records suggest that the name reportedly used by one of the shooting victims was a CIA cover identity associated with a post office box in Dunn Loring, Va. The agency declined to comment.

    Calderon also did not address those reports Tuesday.
    The CIA has expanded its presence in Mexico significantly in recent years as part of a broader U.S. effort to assist the Mexican government’s crackdown on drug cartels. Former senior CIA officials said the agency has shared intelligence with Mexico and helped its elite counter-narcotics teams root out corruption and identify officers with ties to drug lords.

    But the former officials said the CIA has been frustrated by delays that can last months before Mexican authorities mount operations based on U.S.-provided intelligence and acknowledged that lingering mistrust makes the agency reluctant to share its most sensitive information even with vetted Mexican units.

    Top Mexican officials have long denied or played down links between the CIA and their military.

    The two U.S. employees and a Mexican navy captain serving as an interpreter were heading Friday to a navy training camp south of Mexico City when, the U.S. Embassy says, they were ambushed.

    One of the wounded men was attached to the U.S. Embassy in Mexico City, and the other appeared to be in Mexico on temporary assignment, according to U.S. law enforcement officials and diplomats who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the case is under investigation.

    Officials with the FBI, the Pentagon and the Drug Enforcement Administration have said that the men were not employees of their agencies. The State Department also has declined to comment on whether the men were agency employees.

    But an examination of public records suggests that the name used by one of the men may be fictitious, with similarities to others created by the CIA to provide cover for its officers overseas.

    Shortly after the shooting, major Mexican news organizations identified one of the U.S. officials as Stan D. Boss, a name associated with a post office box at a Dunn Loring mail facility tied to at least one previous CIA cover identity that was publicly exposed. Records indicate that Boss was issued a Social Security number in Texas in 2004. Beyond that, the records are largely blank, with not even a date of birth associated with the name.

    That same Dunn Loring post office is linked to dozens of other names that have similarly scant records and to Social Security numbers issued around the same time. Among the previous holders of post office boxes at that location was an individual named Philip P. Quincannon, who apparently does not exist but who was listed as an officer with at least two aviation companies suspected of involvement in CIA rendition flights after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
    Within hours of the attack Friday, Mexican media were publishing two names that they said belonged to the victims. Mexican media outlets first mentioned a CIA connection to the case Tuesday morning.

    The Mexican news media reported, and U.S. law enforcement officials later confirmed, that the Americans came under attack by Mexican federal police officers who were dressed in civilian clothes and driving civilian vehicles.

    According to the accounts, the Americans were driving the embassy armored car when they were confronted at a checkpoint by a carload of Mexican federal police officers. The Americans, threatened by what appeared to be civilians brandishing military weapons, quickly fled the scene.

    Soon after, a total of four vehicles, all civilian and all containing Mexican federal police personnel, got into a high-speed chase, shooting at the fleeing Americans, according to the accounts.

    The Americans sped down a winding, potholed mountain road, past pastures and small farms. An officer in the Mexican army on patrol in the hills said the area was not a hot spot for drug cartels but was beset by small-time thugs who kidnapped victims and stole their phones and credit cards. The victims were often left tied to trees.

    The Americans were eventually surrounded and the federal police fired multiple rounds at their vehicle, close enough to see who was inside, according to an account in the newspaper La Jornada.

    Some Mexican law enforcement officials have said that the confrontation was caused by confusion — that the federal police were in the area chasing kidnappers who had seized the head of the National Anthropology Museum.

    A spokeswoman for the museum said it had no reports indicating that anyone from the institute had been kidnapped.

    Miller reported from Washington. Julie Tate in Washington and Gabriela Martinez in Mexico City contributed to this report.

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    Mexican police attacked CIA officers, ambush probed: sources

    Mexican police attacked CIA officers, ambush probed: sources

    By Ioan Grillo | Reuters – 38 mins ago

    TRES MARIAS, Mexico (Reuters) - Two U.S. officials shot and wounded by Mexican federal police just south of the capital were CIA officers, security sources say, and the attack could badly hurt U.S.-Mexico cooperation in a war against drug cartels if found to be a deliberate ambush.

    The pair of experienced officers were on their way to a Mexican Marine base on Friday, working with local authorities on a training mission, when federal police riddled their armored van bearing diplomatic plates with bullets.

    The men, traveling with a Mexican Marine captain, were wounded and taken to a hospital for treatment, though their injuries were not life threatening. Television footage showed the vehicle strafed with bullet marks, its tires and rear window shot out.

    A dozen federal police officers detained and questioned over the attack have been ordered held in custody for 40 days, and in initial statements to federal prosecutors they claimed they confused the Americans for criminals.

    However, eyewitnesses at a bend in the road outside the small town of Tres Marias told Reuters the gunmen were dressed in plain clothes and carried rifles. They said they pursued the Americans firing from unmarked cars trying to box them in and on foot -- a classic style of gangland hits in Mexico.

    "We had no idea at all they were police. They looked like criminals," said one woman who witnessed the incident but asked not to be named for fear of repercussions.

    Witnesses said the CIA driver made impressive evasive maneuvers which likely saved their lives, and they believe they heard hundreds of bullets fired, estimating the incident lasted around six minutes.

    One media report said shell casings from AK-47s, which are not used by Mexican police and are a weapon of choice for drug cartel members, were found at the scene, which could suggest the police were working in tandem with gangs.

    Tres Marias is close to the city of Cuernavaca, a weekend retreat that has been badly hit by drug violence in recent years. In 2009, Mexican Marines shot dead leading cartel boss Arturo Beltran Leyva, alias "The Beard," in Cuernavaca based on information from the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration.

    U.S. and Mexican officials are probing last week's incident to ascertain whether it was a mix-up, or more sinister.

    A Mexican official close to the investigation who asked not be identified said the CIA officers were within a few miles of the Marine base when they were shot by the men in civilian clothes.
    The CIA declined to comment on the incident.

    One U.S. official familiar with inquiries into the incident said that there are a "whole lot of unanswered questions" and that future dealings between the United States and Mexico could be seriously affected if the United States concludes that a major cover-up is going on.

    DELIBERATE AMBUSH?
    Mexico's police services have been plagued by cases of corruption and officers working for hire for cartels in recent years, amid a surge in violence that poses a major challenge for incoming President Enrique Pena Nieto.
    Roadside shootings have been a fea
    ture of the violence linked to drug gangs that has overshadowed President Felipe Calderon's six years in office. Gangs have been known to set up fake military checkpoints to ambush rivals.

    Last year, two U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents were shot by hitmen on a major Mexican highway. One of the agents died.

    Calderon promised on Tuesday to get to the bottom of how the pair were shot by federal police officers.

    Speaking alongside the U.S. ambassador in Mexico, Calderon said the shooting incident should not hinder bilateral efforts to fight Mexico's violent drug cartels.

    "We can't allow these things to happen, whether it is because of negligence, lack of training, lack of trust or complicity," Calderon said.

    Major U.S. agencies including the CIA, FBI and Drug Enforcement Administration operate out of the embassy in Mexico City.

    Under the "Merida Initiative" which began in 2008, U.S. agents have trained Mexican police and soldiers to help them with Calderon's war on traffickers. Washington has also supplied Mexico with equipment including Black Hawk helicopters and surveillance gear.

    Much of the training and hardware has gone to the Marines, an elite force that operates out of Mexico's Navy Ministry and has captured or killed several major drug traffickers. However, the United States has also trained the federal police.

    During Calderon's six-year offensive against cartels, there have been more than 55,000 drug-related murders. More than 3,000 police and soldiers have died, although many were involved with the gangs.

    Mexican police attacked CIA officers, ambush probed: sources - Yahoo! News
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    DELIBERATE AMBUSH?

    Mexico's police services have been plagued by cases of corruption and officers working for hire for cartels in recent years, amid a surge in violence that poses a major challenge for incoming President Enrique Pena Nieto.

    Roadside shootings have been a feature of the violence linked to drug gangs that has overshadowed President Felipe Calderon's six years in office. Gangs have been known to set up fake military checkpoints to ambush rivals.
    It sounds like they knew who they were and where they were going to be. I continue to think the whole original story was fishy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newmexican View Post
    . . . I continue to think the whole original story was fishy.
    That's what happens when the media tries to write a story, to be the first to report on any news, before an investigation is even started, much less completed.
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    UPDATE 1-Mexican police attacked CIA officers, ambush likely-sources

    UPDATE 1-Mexican police attacked CIA officers, ambush likely-sources

    Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:22am IST
    by Ioan Grillo

    TRES MARIAS, Mexico, Aug 29 (Reuters) - Mexican federal police shot and wounded two CIA operatives last week, security sources said, in an apparently deliberate attack that could hurt U.S.-Mexico cooperation in their war against drug cartels.

    The two experienced officers were just south of the capital on their way to a Mexican Marine base on Friday, working with local authorities on a training mission, when federal police riddled their armored van bearing diplomatic plates with bullets.

    The men, traveling with a Mexican Marine captain, were wounded and taken to a hospital for treatment, though their injuries were not life-threatening. Their vehicle's tires and rear windshield were shot out.

    A dozen federal police officers detained and questioned over the attack have been ordered held in custody for 40 days. In initial statements to federal prosecutors, they claimed they confused the Americans for criminals.

    However, witnesses who saw the shooting at a bend in the road outside the small town of Tres Marias told Reuters the gunmen were dressed in plain clothes and pursued the Americans firing from unmarked cars and on foot -- a classic style of gangland hits in Mexico.

    "We had no idea at all they were police. They looked like criminals," said one woman who witnessed the incident but asked not to be named for fear of repercussions.

    A Mexican government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the evidence suggested gang members and corrupt police had carried out the attack before other police arrived at the scene and prevented the men being killed.

    "This was not an accident," the official said.

    Witnesses said the CIA driver made impressive evasive maneuvers which likely saved the lives of those inside the car, and they believe they heard hundreds of bullets fired, estimating the incident lasted around six minutes.

    The Mexican official said the vehicle was chased for about 4 km (2.5 miles) before it was halted, and that shell casings from AK-47s, which are not used by Mexican police and are a weapon of choice for drug cartel members, were found at the scene.

    A total of four vehicles were involved in the incident, though only the shot-up van was found at the scene, the official added. One of the vehicles identified by eyewitnesses has been linked to other crimes, the official said.

    Tres Marias is close to the city of Cuernavaca, a popular weekend retreat for Mexico City residents that has been badly hit by drug violence in recent years. In 2009, Mexican Marines shot dead leading cartel boss Arturo Beltran Leyva, alias "The Beard," in Cuernavaca in an operation based on information from the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration.

    His brother and fellow drug boss, Hector Beltran Leyva, is thought by some security experts to be at large nearby.

    The Mexican official said the rise in criminal activity in the area was very likely being abetted by corrupt police.

    "The police here have been heavily infiltrated by organized crime," said a local man, who declined to be identified.

    American and Mexican officials are still investigating the incident and Mexican Attorney General Marisela Morales said on Wednesday that an ambush was one possible explanation.

    U.S. officials in diplomatic vehicles went over the scene of the shooting on Wednesday, taking fresh evidence under the protection of Mexican Marines.

    A separate Mexican official close to the investigation who asked not to be identified said the CIA officers were within a few miles of the Marine base when they were shot at.

    The CIA declined to comment on the incident.

    One U.S. official familiar with inquiries into the incident said there are a "whole lot of unanswered questions" and that dealings between the United States and Mexico could be seriously affected if Washington concludes a major cover-up is going on.

    DELIBERATE AMBUSH?
    Mexico's police have been plagued by corruption and officers working for hire for cartels in recent years, amid a surge in violence that poses a major challenge for incoming President Enrique Pena Nieto, who is due to take office in December.

    Roadside shootings have been a feature of the violence that has overshadowed President Felipe Calderon's six years in office. Gangs have been known to set up fake military checkpoints to ambush rivals.

    Last year, two U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents were shot by hitmen on a major Mexican highway. One of the agents died.

    Calderon promised on Tuesday to get to the bottom of how the two CIA officers were shot. Speaking alongside the U.S. ambassador in Mexico, Calderon said the incident should not hinder bilateral efforts to fight Mexico's violent drug cartels.

    "We can't allow these things to happen, whether it is because of negligence, lack of training, lack of trust or complicity," Calderon said.
    The CIA, FBI and Drug Enforcement Administration have officers operating out of the U.S. embassy in Mexico City.

    Under the "Merida Initiative" which began in 2008, U.S. operatives have trained Mexican police and soldiers to help them fight the cartels.

    Washington has also supplied equipment including Black Hawk helicopters and surveillance gear.

    Much of the training and hardware has gone to the Marines, an elite force inside Mexico's Navy Ministry that has captured or killed several major drug traffickers. However, the United States has also trained the federal police.

    During Calderon's six-year offensive against cartels, there have been more than 55,000 drug-related murders. More than 3,000 police and soldiers have died, although many were involved with the gangs.

    UPDATE 1-Mexican police attacked CIA officers, ambush likely-sources | Reuters
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    However, witnesses who saw the shooting at a bend in the road outside the small town of Tres Marias told Reuters the gunmen were dressed in plain clothes and pursued the Americans firing from unmarked cars and on foot -- a classic style of gangland hits in Mexico.

    "We had no idea at all they were police. They looked like criminals," said one woman who witnessed the incident but asked not to be named for fear of repercussions.
    I wonder who knew they would be there? Mexico is so corrupt and it runs deep into the government.

    Jaime Zapata was killed in a similar attack in a diplomatic vehicle - this makes me really wonder since he was doing Fast and Furious investigations in Texas before he received his temporary assignment to Mexico.
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    Mexico Federal Police Intended to Kill CIA Agents in August 2012 Attack

    Monday, September 15, 2014 |
    Borderland Beat Reporter Chivis


    Records of the Judiciary of the Federation (PJF), as part of the trial of 14 members of the Federal Police who participated in an attack on two members of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and a Mexican Navy captain on August 24, 2012, state that there was no error in the attack and that the defendants "intended to kill those who were the occupants of the diplomatic vehicle, because in their opinion they were 'dangerous criminals'."

    The chase and attack stretched for miles along the Mexico-Cuernavaca federal highway.

    The surveys conducted by personnel from the Attorney General's Office (PGR) and the reconstructions determined that the lives of the three victims were always at risk during the attack, as the agents of the Federal Police never stopped shooting and opened fire with intent to deprive the U.S. agents and the Mexican Navy officer of their lives. ... The U.S. agents and Mexican Navy officer were unarmed.

    According to documents obtained and the decision regarding an injunction brought by lawyers for the federal police, it was confirmed that, in the attack, Mexican police agents traveled in private vehicles, used their official weapons (rifles and pistols), but did not wear their uniforms or bullet proof vests that would identify them.

    The report also confirms that the policemen, who are charged with attempted murder and damage to property, did not stop shooting at the vehicle in which the U.S. agents and the Mexican were traveling until one of their commanders arrived at the scene.

    The level 6 armor of the vehicle had failed.

    Source: La Jornada: Gustavo Castillo García-Translated Mexico Voices, Reed Brundrage
    http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2014/09/mexico-federal-police-intended-to-kill_15.html

    Original article for LaJornada.

    Policías federales, con intención de matar a agentes de la CIA: informe
    Gustavo Castillo García
    Periódico La Jornada
    Jueves 11 de septiembre de 2014, p. 15


    Documentos del Poder Judicial de la Federación (PJF) que forman parte del juicio a 14 elementos de la Policía Federal que participaron en un ataque contra dos integrantes de la Agencia Central de Inteligencia (CIA, por sus siglas en inglés) y un capitán de la Secretaría de Marina, en agosto de 2012, establecen que no hubo error en la agresión y que los acusados “tenían la intención de matar a quienes fueran los ocupantes del vehículo diplomático, porque en su concepto eran ‘delincuentes peligrosos’”.Los peritajes realizados por personal de la Procuraduría General de la República (PGR) y las reconstrucciones realizadas determinaron que la vida de las tres víctimas siempre estuvo en riesgo durante el ataque, pues los agentes de la Policía Federal nunca dejaron de disparar y abrieron fuego con la intención de privar de la vida a los agentes estadunidenses y al marino mexicano.De acuerdo con los documentos obtenidos y la sentencia de un juicio de amparo promovido por los abogados de los policías federales se confirma que para la agresión los agentes mexicanos se transportaban en vehículos particulares, utilizaron sus armas de cargo (fusiles y pistolas), no usaron sus uniformes ni tampoco chalecos antiblas que los identificaran.Asimismo, se confirma que los policías acusados de homicidio en grado de tentativa y daño en propiedad ajena no dejaron de disparar contra el vehículo en el que viajaban los estadunidenses y el marino mexicano, hasta que llegó uno de sus mandos al lugar de los hechos y el blindaje nivel 6 de la unidad había cedido.Luego de una persecución y ataque que se extendió varios kilómetros en la carretera federal México-Cuernavaca, el 24 de agosto de 2012, alrededor de las ocho de la mañana, la camioneta en la que viajaban los agentes de la CIA y el marino mexicano, los policías federales “que los perseguían se estacionaron atrás de su vehículo, descendieron y dispararon de nueva cuenta contra la camioneta hacia la parte posterior, hasta la parte media de la camioneta.
    “(...)Cuatro sujetos disparaban al lado del piloto y tres al del copiloto, que al parecer uno de los agresores llevaba un AK-47 y les disparó de arriba abajo. Después, todos los agresores suben a un desnivel para ocultarse detrás de los árboles y continuar disparando.“A causa de los múltiples disparos, el blindaje de la camioneta cedió; por lo que, uno de los agentes de la CIA recibió un balazo en el antebrazo por lo que intentó pasarse al asiento trasero; por lo cual recibió una segunda herida de bala en el glúteo derecho.Al percatarse los atacantes de esta situación se enfocaron a disparar hacia la zona del automóvil donde estaba el conductor de la unidad y también recibió impactos de bala; uno a la altura de la cabeza, el cual despedazó el pabellón de su oreja derecha y las esquirlas provocaron que una de las patas de sus gafas se le incrustara en la cara, específicamente en la mejilla derecha; otro, en el brazo derecho; y, un tercer balazo en la pierna derecha (las versiones arrojan también que al verse malherido, se recargó en el volante de la camioneta, simulando que estaba muerto, para intentar que sus atacantes dejaran de dispararles), refieren los documentos judiciales y peritajes realizados por la PGR.Los resultados de los estudios en criminología, mecánica y otras especialidades concluyen que todos los disparos fueron efectuados de afuera hacia adentro del vehículo (y que ninguno de los ocupantes de la camioneta con placas diplomáticas estaba armado); y los balazos se resintieron en las zonas que protegían a las víctimas (las puertas delanteras incluyendo las ventanillas) y que fueron efectuados con la intención de privar de la vida a los ofendidos.
    http://www.jornada.unam.mx/2014/09/11/index.php?section=politica&article=015n2pol&partne r=rss

    Translated using software - sketchy but readable.

    According to documents obtained and the sentence of an injunction brought by lawyers for the federal police confirmed that the attack Mexican agents were transported in private vehicles, used their weapons charge (rifles and pistols), did not use their uniforms nor antiblas vests that identify.

    It also confirms that the policemen accused of murder is attempted and damage to property left not to shoot at the vehicle they were traveling Americans and Mexican sea, until he reached one of his commanders at the scene and level 6 armor unit had yielded.

    After a chase and attack that stretched for miles along the Mexico-Cuernavaca federal highway, August 24, 2012, around eight o'clock, the van carrying the CIA and the Mexican Navy, federal police "who pursued parked behind his vehicle, got out and fired again into against the van to the rear until the middle of the truck.

    "(...) Four subjects were shooting next to the pilot and three passenger, apparently one of the assailants was carrying an AK-47 and shot them up and down. Then all aggressors climb a slope to hide behind trees and continue shooting.

    "Because of the multiple shots, shielding in the van yielded; so, one of the CIA was shot in the forearm so he tried going over the back seat; for which he received a second gunshot wound to the right buttock.

    Realizing this situation attackers were focused to fire towards the area of the car where the driver of the unit was well received bullet wounds; one at head height, which tore the flag from his right ear and shrapnel caused that one of the legs of his glasses he embeds in the face, specifically on the right cheek; other in the right arm; and a third bullet in the right leg (versions also shed finding himself wounded, leaned on the wheel of the truck, pretending he was dead, to try to stop shooting their attackers) , referred to in court documents and experts' reports by the PGR.

    The results of studies in criminology, mechanics and other specialists conclude that all the shots were fired from outside to inside the vehicle (and none of the occupants of the van with diplomatic plates was armed); bullets and resented in areas protected victims (including front door windows) and were made ​​with the intent to deprive of life the offended




    The next time the Mexican Federales trot across the border, they should be jailed. JMO



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