Thread: UNC to Study In-State Tuition for Illegal Immigrants

UNC to Study In-State Tuition for Illegal Immigrants

Posted: Today at 5:48 p.m.

Illegal immigrants could soon get in-state tuition rates at all 17 University of North Carolina campuses.

The University of North Carolina system announced Thursday that it will study the costs and benefits.

System President Erskine Bowles stands behind the recommendation for the study.

Under current policy, illegal immigrants who meet admission requirements can attend UNC System institutions if they pay out-of-state tuition rates, which can be as much as 10 times higher than in-state rates.

The study comes on the heels of a Nov. 7 memo directing all state community college campuses to admit illegal immigrants.

http://www.wral.com/news/news_briefs/story/2137058/

The libidiots and IA huggers are running amok in NC!!!

Originally Posted by zeezil

The libidiots and IA huggers are running amok in NC!!!

that made me laugh. very funny... can someone caption this...ahhahahah

AND SKIPPER'S LEADING THE PACK.

UNC to study in-state tuition for illegal immigrants

By Kristin Collins, Staff Writer
CHAPEL HILL - The University of North Carolina system will study the costs and benefits of offering in-state tuition to illegal immigrants on its 16 campuses, system president Erskine Bowles said today.
"We can't stick our heads in the sand," Bowles said. "These people are here, and we have to deal with it. The last thing in the world we want to do is create another permanent underclass." Bowles said the system will undertake the study in response to the recommendation of the UNC Tomorrow Commission, a group of business, community and academic leaders that issued a report Thursday. Bowles established the commission to suggest ways that the university can better serve the state in the midst of a changing economy.

Neither Bowles nor the commission advocated for or against offering in-state tuition. And they pointed out that the legislature would have to change the law to allow the reduced tuition for illegal immigrants.

Bowles said the university system will do extensive study before deciding whether to advocate for a change in the law.

The state's universities already admit illegal immigrants who graduate from U.S. high schools. UNC guidelines adopted in 2004 say they can attend if they pay out-of-state rates, which range from $10,000 to $20,000, compared with $1,500 to $3,700 for in-state students.

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William:
Something funny is going on! What is this REALLY all about. Full admittance to IAs in community colleges, now 4-year institutions likely to follow suit? What is the timing with this AND WHAT THE HELL IS REALLY GOING ON IN NORTH CAROLINA??? Why now and why all of a sudden with this charge of the libidiot/IA huggers!?!

P.S. - It looks quite likely that the DEMS will be able to dismantle Mecklenberg County's 287(g) program, because if unofficial results hold firm, Nick Mackey, not Chipp Bailey will be the replacement sheriff for Jim Pendergraph. Nick Mackey would be a disaster as County Sheriff and will be a kick in the head to all those fighting against illegal aliens.

The voting (limited to Democratic Executive Committee only) is going on this very evening.

March 16, 2007

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University of North Carolina Tomorrow Commission to Help Shape Future Service to the State

CHAPEL HILL – Last month the UNC Board of Governors launched University of North Carolina Tomorrow, an 18-month initiative to determine how the 16-campus University can best meet the needs of the state and its people over the next 20 years. Today Board of Governors Chairman Jim Phillips of Greensboro announced the creation of the University of North Carolina Tomorrow Commission, a blue-ribbon group that will help guide that ambitious effort. The Commission, which includes business, education, government, and nonprofit leaders from across the state, is charged with learning what the people of North Carolina need from their University and making related recommendations to the Board of Governors.

In coming months, Commission members and staff will travel the state, visiting UNC campuses and meeting with regional leaders in different sectors and industries to discuss evolving challenges facing North Carolina, and then will advise the Board of Governors as it develops potential responses UNC might make to those challenges and devises a long-term plan that will position UNC to remain proactive, and responsive.

“The make-up of this Commission reflects our commitment to reach out across all of North Carolina for input and guidance,â€

Wow......just look at all the business owners who are most likely using ILLEGALS. When the ILLEGALS graduate, are these people going to hire them? Are they helping the kids of current employees?

Something is ROTTEN IN NORTH CAROLINA!

Published: Dec 07, 2007 12:30 AM
Modified: Dec 07, 2007 05:11 AM


UNC joins fray on immigrant tuition
The system will review its position on whether to give in-state tuition to those who come here illegally

Kristin Collins, Staff Writer
CHAPEL HILL - Joining the state's community colleges in the debate over how to treat illegal immigrants who seek college educations, the University of North Carolina system will study the costs and benefits of offering in-state tuition to undocumented residents at its 16 university campuses.

In-state tuition would save illegal immigrants who attend college thousands of dollars a year, putting higher education within the reach of many who cannot afford it now. In-state tuition rates range from $1,500 to $3,700, compared with $10,000 to $20,000 for out-of-state students.

"We can't stick our heads in the sand," system President Erskine Bowles said Thursday. "These people are here, and we have to deal with it. The last thing in the world we want to do is create another permanent underclass."

Bowles said the study was the recommendation of the UNC Tomorrow Commission, a group of business, community and academic leaders. Bowles established the 28-member commission to suggest ways that the university can better serve the state in the midst of a changing economy.

Bowles and the commission took a cautious approach to the tuition issue, which has been highly controversial.

A related controversy erupted this month over admission policies at state community colleges. Top officials there announced that all campuses should admit illegal immigrants as students but charge out-of-state tuition. The decision drew nationwide criticism and the opposition of all five gubernatorial candidates.

Opponents of the policies say taxpayer money should not be spent educating people who are in the country illegally. Some argue that the practice robs resources from American students and encourages illegal immigration.

The UNC group did not support or oppose the tuition move. Members said the university system should do extensive study before deciding whether to ask the legislature to change state law, which prohibits campuses from offering in-state tuition to illegal immigrants.

In harm's way

Regardless, Bowles acknowledged that the study is likely to put the state's university system at the center of an issue that has exposed deep divisions in the past.

Legislators from both parties advocated changing the law in 2005, but their bill failed after sparking a rowdy debate and threats of violence against Hispanic advocates.

On Thursday, Edenton Mayor Roland Vaughan was the only commission member to speak in opposition.

"It's a slippery slope," Vaughan said. "There are documented citizens of this state who can't get their children into the campuses."

The state's universities already admit illegal immigrants who graduate from U.S. high schools. UNC guidelines adopted in 2004 say illegal immigrants can attend if they pay out-of-state rates.

Out of reach

Those rates, coupled with ineligibility for financial aid, make attending college impossible for many illegal immigrants.

In a draft report released Thursday, the commission made a host of suggestions for new university initiatives, which included enhancing global competitiveness, helping high schools cut dropout rates, improving health care and protecting the environment.

In a section devoted to helping under-served populations, such as black males and Hispanics, the commission said the university should examine "whether and under what circumstances, if any, undocumented students who graduate from North Carolina high schools and who are academically qualified for admission to a UNC institution should be charged in-state tuition."

The report recommends studying the legal issues involved. It also asks the university system to calculate the cost of educating illegal immigrants, along with the cost to society of allowing a fast-growing population to be effectively excluded from a college eduction.

The commission will submit its recommendations to the UNC system's Board of Governors in January.

Jim Phillips, a Greensboro lawyer who is chairman of both the commission and the Board of Governors, said the university is being forced to take up the slack for a federal government that hasn't secured the borders.

"We can't deport them," Phillips said. "So it's up to us to say, 'Are they going to be here in jail or on public assistance? Or are they going to be productive members of society?' "

The recommendation stirred slight discussion among a diverse group of commission members, which includes Hispanic advocates, business owners and political leaders such as former Republican Gov. James Holshouser.

Martin Lancaster, the departing president of the community college system, attended the UNC commission meeting Thursday. Even after enduring fierce criticism in the past week, he said in an interview that he thinks the universities are right to look at how they can serve illegal immigrants.

"I think it's important in a knowledge-based economy that we educate every human being, period," Lancaster said.

Bowles said the university system will study all the consequences of offering in-state tuition to illegal immigrants.

He said he doesn't know how many illegal immigrants attend the universities now, although he suspects it is a small number because of the high tuition, nor does he know how many might apply if in-state rates were offered.

'Deal with facts'

"Let's deal with facts," he said. "Let's do the research and look at both sides of the equation."

Andrea Bazán, a commission member who helped lead the push for in-state tuition in 2005, said she hopes the commission has opened an opportunity for a more measured discussion of the benefits of educating all residents, regardless of their immigration status.

"It's unfortunate that it becomes a controversial political issue," Bazán said. "What we're trying to address is educating the people of this state. ... It's a matter of our economic competitiveness."

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They constantly complain they dont have enough space for students and they need more money. A sensible way to solve the problem is to remove IAs from the system. Why spend NC tax dollars training them if they arent legally allowed to work in the US? Also, isnt there a law that excludes them from the system?