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    Editorial Why should immigration detainees be denied access to telephones?



    Protestors at the Metropolitan Detention Center during one of several May Day marches in Los Angeles, California.
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    The Times Editorial Board

    Immigrants held in detention face daunting challenges in their struggles to remain in the country. Yet one of the key determining factors in whether they ultimately win permission to stay has nothing to do with the facts or circumstances of their cases. It is whether they have a lawyer to advise them. A 2011 study headed by a federal judge – and another study conducted this year – found that immigrants with lawyers are five times more likely to win their cases than those without.

    But the government is not required to provide an attorney to people in immigration court, and the bench of lawyers willing to work for free is much smaller than the demand for its services.

    A legal settlement this week should help remove one obstacle facing detainees: their lack of access to telephones.In a case filed in a San Francisco federal court, detainees represented by the ACLU and other civil rights groups argued that the conditions of their detention in four California facilities interfered with their right to find counsel, to gather evidence on their own behalf and to receive a fair hearing when they make their cases in court. How were those rights being impeded? Through policies that severely limited their use of telephones.

    Part of the problem is the immigration detention system itself, which relies primarily on contracts between the federal government and the county jails or private companies that house detainees as well as other prisoners. Those facilities have their own rules about inmate access to telephones that also apply to immigration detainees even though the latter have not been charged with or found guilty of crimes. Instead, they are fighting accusations that they have violated civil codes governing legal status in the country (which also is why they do not have a legal right to appointed counsel, as criminal defendants do).


    According to the lawsuit, detainees often face lengthy waits to use the phone in crowded facilities, get cut off after as little as 15 minutes, may not leave messages and are denied privacy for phone conversations with their lawyers. It doesn’t help that in-person legal consultations are often difficult or impossible to arrange; the four detainees who filed the lawsuit, for instance, are being held far from San Francisco where their cases are being heard and where most of the pro bono legal help is based.

    Under the settlement, Immigration and Customs Enforcement will offer broader access to phones, including dedicated toll-free lines to federal agencies, phone booths for privacy and a larger bank of phones as well as free calls for the indigent. Unfortunately, the agreement applies only to the four facilities named in the lawsuit. ICE should on its own initiative apply these new policies nationwide to ensure the government respects the efforts of detainees to invoke their legal rights to a fair hearing over their immigration status.



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    Americans have the same issues in our jails. They have to wait in line to make phone calls, they only get a few minutes, whoever they're calling has to pay for the call and the cost is outrageous, their phone calls are even recorded if the jail wants to record them. There is no privacy except possibly with their lawyers, not sure how that works. I certainly don't think illegal aliens should have better phone access than Americans, do you? I think we need to rapidly deport these people, get them and their whines out of here, so our own country can man up and start fixing our problems.

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    "Why are US Taxpayers FORCED to pay the bill for illegal immigrants"????



    They are Criminal Trespassers! No papers, no entry, no rights. Go use a phone in Mexico.

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    Exactly, Beezer. Someone should get all the bills for this disaster and it should not be US taxpayers. I think it has to be offsets of some type on remittances, trade, aid, and so forth. The cost has to somehow be borne by the country of origination. Also bonds posted on student and worker visas for overstaying a visa. If the facts reveal that tourists are also overstaying visas and this creates a cost burden for the US, then there would need to bonds or deposits posted in order to obtain the visa at least from countries with high illegal immigration and visa overstay rates.
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    Start by cutting off all freebies to non-citizens.

    Cut off ALL aid to Mexico and Central America. Not one more taxpayer dime to these corrupt countries.

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