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    US House Leaders Plan Vote on Big Foreign Worker Increase

    US House Leaders Plan Vote on Big Foreign Worker Increase This Week -- Despite 5-Year Unemployment High

    By Roy Beck, Sunday, September 7, 2008, 5:42 PM
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    Here's another entry in the contest to find out whether many politicians are just stupid or are cynically evil:

    THE CRISIS: The feds announced last week that our official unemployment rate has soared to 6.1%, the highest since September 2003.
    THE CARING RESPONSE IN WORDS: Anticipating and reacting to the economic uncertainty in so many households, both Presidential Nominating Conventions were full of promises to help the beleaguered American worker.
    THE ACTUAL STAB IN THE BACK: But this week, we get to see what ACTIONS the politicians plan for us. First out of the blocks, the Democratic Leadership of the U.S. House of Representatives is responding this week by trying to shove through a bill -- H.R. 5882 -- which would provide about 550,000 permanent green cards to foreign workers next year. And those would be ABOVE the 1 million permanent green cards already planned!
    Folks, this is not just rhetoric. This is the House leadership trying to pass this bill to permanently give away hundreds of thousands more American jobs to foreign workers.

    Unless you make a phone call before Wednesday, this legislation is almost guaranteed to pass because it is backed by the richest, most powerful corporate lobbying interests in town, by the House Democratic leadership and by a large number of corporate-lobby-inspired Republicans.

    AMERICANS NEED JOBS -- NOT FOREIGN WORKERS
    Let's take a quick look at the employment statistics that don't seem to matter to Members of Congress who are pushing H.R. 5882:

    The official unemployment rate soared 0.4 percentage point to 6.1%, the highest since September 2003. The unemployment rate was under 5% as recently as February. Remember that the unemployment rate only measures those who are looking for work and can't find it. Millions more have just stopped looking.
    342,000 jobs were simply eliminated throughout the economy last month. And the number of people officially looking for work and unable to find it rose by 592,000.
    Manufacturing firms cut 61,000 jobs, the biggest drop since July 2003.
    Construction employment was down by 8,000.
    Service-sector employment fell 27,000.
    Business and professional services companies shed 53,000 jobs--the seventh drop in eight months.
    Retail trade cut 19,900 payrolls, the ninth-straight decline.
    Even temporary employment fell by 36,900.
    With that kind of news, what kind of person would schedule a vote this week to offer an EXTRA 550,000 permanent green cards next year? Read on.

    REP. ZOE LOFGREN IS THE ENEMY OF UNEMPLOYED WORKERS
    There are so many Members of Congress who work primarily for the interests of the cheap-labor lobbyists, it is difficult to single out just one to be the face of all that is idiotic, cynical and callous about our immigration policies.

    But Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.) gets to be that face this week. She is chair of the House immigration subcommittee. She long has served on that committee, doing the bidding of the corporations in her Silicon Valley District.

    But her decision to move H.R. 5882 through the Judiciary Committee is not just about getting more higher skilled foreign workers instead of hiring American tech workers.

    No, this time she's bringing in foreign workers to take nearly every kind of job in America. The only criteria really is that you have a couple of years experience in the type of job you would be taking from an American worker. These 550,000 extra greencards would be for engineers, health workers, construction workers, service workers, manufacturing workers -- well, they would go to foreign workers who do all the kinds of jobs that have been disappearing!

    If you -- or anybody you know -- works in any of these sectors, you had better act fast because Rep. Lofgren and her followers have every intention of giving away more of the declining number of jobs in your occupations.

    If there were any sanity or compassion for struggling American workers, Congress would not be considering increasing greencards but instead would be considering reducing the already high 1 million greencards a year to something more like the traditional average of just a quarter-million.

    Feel free to call Rep. Lofgren and express your opinion through the congressional switchboard at:
    202-224-3121

    You can also use that number to reach your own Representative and ask if he/she is aware of the insanity planned for the House Judiciary Committee this week.

    And be sure to check your Action Buffet corkboard for other actions you can take.

    FALSE PRETENSES FOR PUSHING H.R. 5882
    Rep. Lofgren and other pushers of H.R. 5882 think they have come up with a really clever way to get around the general public opposition to immigration increases.

    Their gimmick is "Recapturing Unused Employer-Sponsored Visas."

    You see, the law was changed in 1990 to triple the number of employer-sponsored permanent immigrants each year. The upper limit was set at 140,000. In fact, the feds have violated that limit several times since 1990 and given away more than 140,000 of these greencards. But in some years, they also have issued fewer than 140,000.

    The cheap-labor lobbyists came up with the idea to "recapture" the greencards that weren't issued just in the years when the numbers fell below 140,000. First of all, the law is written so that "unused" visas in one category are figured into how greencards are given in another category the following year. By current law, there are NO "unused visas."

    But there is an even more important matter here. The cap was set at the extremely high level of 140,000. But, still, there is a cap. There is not a floor. That is, the feds can decide in any given year that it would not be good for American workers to give out all 140,000 permanent work visas. And the cap is there to keep businesses from getting so many foreign workers in a single year that they traumatize a whole section of American workers. The cheap-labor lobbyists claim there are 550,000 greencards that weren't given out during certain of the last 18 years and that they should be given that many extra foreign workers next year.

    Every Member of the House Judiciary Committee should be phoned and told that 592,000 additional Americans were thrown onto the official unemployment rolls last month (and that doesn't count the millions already unemployed), and that the 550,000 jobs that H.R. 5882 would give to foreign workers ought to go to the unemployed Americans.

    And please don't let the congressional staff tell you that these foreign workers are needed because unemployed Americans are looking for different kinds of jobs.

    These 550,000 greencards would go to virtually every kind of foreign worker. And virtually every kind American worker is losing jobs right now.

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    I can think of only two possible reasons this Public Servant is doing this...
    First he is RETURNING a favor to some scummy contributors.
    Second he is LOOKING for contributions from some scummy companies.
    Either way, this man does NOT BELONG in Washington DC.
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    I know about this personally in 2001 I saw a news report in which the Kentucky Coal Association claimed a shortage of workers. I was in touch with a real estate broker and engineer in Vinnicia Ukraine so I got in touch with him mentioning the mining labor shortage. The industry there had
    gotten a recent cut back due to the need to replace machinery.


    I eventually figured out that the extent of the labor shortage in Kentucky was exagerated by KCA to reduce the hiring wage for miners in Kentucky. The mining companies one by one denied a desire to hire Ukrainians. There was also an OSHA requirement for fluent English for workers below ground in case of accidents.


    There was a limited opening for foreign equipment repair as the American engineers and mechanics were incentivized to go below ground. Some of what the American industry was scrapping was better than the obsolete aged Soviet equipment and could have been exported. By then the Ukrainians received so much negative flack they gave up. I have since seen reports of Mexicans hired for maintenance of way and even some hired illegally by dog hole mine owners.


    Any workers brought in under Lofgren would be under paid or unemployed Americans would be forced to work for less because of the new market conditions.
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    Re: US House Leaders Plan Vote on Big Foreign Worker Increas

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    US House Leaders Plan Vote on Big Foreign Worker Increase This Week -- Despite 5-Year Unemployment High
    A huge number of these job replacement schemes are being engineered by a wealthy conglomerate in India named "Tata Consultancy Services" [1]. They, along with dozens of other Indian cheap labor job shops, have engineered the firings of hundreds of thousands American IT workers by claiming that American workers do not have computer skills and our economy would in trouble if large amounts of foreign 'cheap labor' computer workers do not enter our shores immediately and start work [2]. The reality is that it is the Indian H1-B and other categories of temporary visas who do not have the skills. American workers are often forced to train unknowledgable Indian hirees through a process called 'Knowledge Transfer' in which an American successful at his job is forced to give over his skill set to a young worker from India. The American worker is sometimes threatened with reprisals, loss of unemployment benefits and loss of potential medical benefits and severance packages and references if he or she does not have a 'good attitude' when training their replacement. Hillary Clinton was instrumental in allowing rich lobbyists supported by the Indian government into the US for the purpose of stealing American jobs, jobs which had been productively and skillfully employed by American citizens [3]. Don't let their propaganda about skills not being present in the American workforce fool you. Indian IT shops have notoriously oversold their beginner skill set as being superior to that of Americans' (often accompanied by bigoted jargon such as "Americans are dumb at math") and the results have often been disastrous, including stolen bank information and ruined state projects. In one example a well functioning welfare check accounting and issuing system in Denver Colorado was completely destroyed when it was transferred to India due to the lack of business experience by the offshoring company.

    1. http://www.tcs.com/homepage/Pages/default.aspx

    2. http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar ... 1/1001/BIZ

    3. http://www.tata.com/company/releases/in ... rsPFlB2b8=

    See also:

    http://services.silicon.com/offshoring/ ... 993,00.htm

    Bush: No protectionism to safeguard offshored US tech jobs

    Job losses "painful" but everyone's a winner in the end, says Dubya

    By Andy McCue

    Published: 6 March 2006 13:15 GMT

    US President George Bush has ruled out any protectionist measures to safeguard US jobs that are under threat from companies outsourcing work overseas to countries such as India.

    On a visit to India last week Bush admitted that it is "painful" for those people who lose their jobs as a result of globalisation but he said the US rejects a policy of protectionism..

    He said in a speech at Purana Qila in New Delhi: "It's true that some Americans have lost jobs when their companies moved operations overseas. It's also important to remember that when someone loses a job, it's an incredibly difficult period for the worker and their families."

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    Democrats Want to Add More Than a Half-Million Foreign Workers
    By Alan Caruba Tuesday, September 9, 2008


    At a time when the official unemployment rate has reached 6.1%, the highest since September 2003, the Democrats in Congress want to add 550,000 more Green Card holders, above the one million immigrants they already plan to welcome. That’s the word from NumbersUSA.

    Not only is the U.S. experiencing a five-year high in unemployment, Congress wants to let foreign workers take jobs that should be available to Americans.

    H.R. 5882, called “Recapturing Unused Employer-Sponsored Visasâ€
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    Don't forget HR 5882 is coming up for a vote in the House this week. Please pass this on to your friends, and acquaintances.

    H.R. 5882 (Menendez) would reach back to 1992 and "recapture" employment-based and family-based visas, potentially adding over 550,000 new green cards.

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    H.R. 5924 would lift the cap on employment-based visas for nurses and physical therapists until 2011.

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    H.R.5950, details vast new immigrant detainee healthcare requirements that Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) would have to implement in all of its detention centers.

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    Dont be hare-brained

    HR 5882 has NOTHING to do with ILLEGAL immigration. It has no role to play in bringing in new workers. It WONT reduce wages (in fact it might INCREASE them). Do your research, apply your BRAIN and dont just join the bandwagon like headless chickens

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    Re: Dont be hare-brained

    Quote Originally Posted by wakeupCall
    HR 5882 has NOTHING to do with ILLEGAL immigration. It has no role to play in bringing in new workers. It WONT reduce wages (in fact it might INCREASE them).
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    wakeupCall wrote:

    HR 5882 has NOTHING to do with ILLEGAL immigration. It has no role to play in bringing in new workers. It WONT reduce wages (in fact it might INCREASE them). Do your research, apply your BRAIN and dont just join the bandwagon like headless
    Please don't insult our intelligence, wakeupCall.

    Please read the following again:

    H.R. 5882 (Menendez) would reach back to 1992 and "recapture" employment-based and family-based visas, potentially adding over 550,000 new green cards.
    Honestly, are you actually telling us the folks brought in under H.R. 5882 will not be seeking employment? Furthermore, some of the so-called recaptured visas are actually employment based (do your research). Heck, you don't need to do any research - just read the quoted paragraph above.

    Can you please enlighten us on exactly how H.R. 5882 will increase wages for American citizens?

    So tell us, which are you:

    a. An employer desiring to hire foreign labor?
    b. A naturalized citizen or green card holder attempting to bring over more family members?
    c. An employee currently working in the United States under a workers visa?
    d. A troll from: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showt ... hp?t=18804
    e. Combination of any of the above?

    H.R. 5882 WILL MOST CERTAINLY BRING IN MORE FOREIGN LABOR! Attempting to tell us otherwise is just ludicrous.

    I'm all for legal immigration. However, we need to end illegal immigration and review all legal immigration programs before bringing more folks in. IMO, immigration to the United States is excessive and all legal avenues for immigration needs reviewed and possibly revamped.

    Consider this your wake up call.

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    These politicians are out for themselves. Citizens are forced to pay out billions in educating illegal immigrants when we should be investing in our own children and the future of this country. We don't have a shortage of workers, we have a shortage of politicians that care about the average U.S. citizen.

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