Thread: US House Leaders Plan Vote on Big Foreign Worker Increase

Originally Posted by Bowman

Originally Posted by wakeupCall

HR 5882 has NOTHING to do with ILLEGAL immigration. It has no role to play in bringing in new workers. It WONT reduce wages (in fact it might INCREASE them).

Who do you work for Wakeup, the US Chamber of Commerce?

Notice that 'WakeUpCall' has only one post! Most likely he is a troll.

Originally Posted by MW

a. An employer desiring to hire foreign labor?
b. A naturalized citizen or green card holder attempting to bring over more family members?
c. An employee currently working in the United States under a workers visa?
d. A troll from: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showt ... hp?t=18804
e. Combination of any of the above?

Fighting fire with fire: Since Immigration Voice tells you to contact the following list of names to support visa recapture why not use the same list as a contact list for telling them that you won't get my vote if you do support visa recapture?

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showt ... hp?t=18804

04-27-2008, 06:25 PM
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Default Send letters/faxes online to Subcommittee members to support Visa Recapture
Send letters to following subcommittee members :
Hon. Lofgren Chairman (D) California, 16th
Hon. Gutierrez (D) Illinois, 4th
Hon. Berman (D) California, 28th
Hon. Jackson Lee (D) Texas, 18th
Hon. Waters (D) California, 35th
Hon. Delahunt (D) Massachusetts, 10th
Hon. Sánchez (D) California, 39th
Hon. Davis (D) Alabama , 7th
Hon. Ellison (D) Minnesota, 5th
Hon. Weiner (D) New York, 9th


Hon. King Ranking Member (R) Iowa, 5th
Hon. Gallegly (R) California, 24th
Hon. Goodlatte (R) Virginia, 6th
Hon. Lungren (R) California, 3rd
Hon. Forbes (R) Virginia, 4th
Hon. Gohmert (R) Texas, 1st

Here are the addresses and fax numbers (website used to find address http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/ )
Address: The Honorable Zoe Lofgren
United States House of Representatives
102 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-0516
DC Phone: 202-225-3072
DC Fax: 202-225-3336



DC Address: The Honorable Luis V. Gutierrez
United States House of Representatives
2266 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-1304
DC Phone: 202-225-8203
DC Fax: 202-225-7810


DC Address: The Honorable Howard L. Berman
United States House of Representatives
2221 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-0528
DC Phone: 202-225-4695
DC Fax: 202-225-3196

DC Address: The Honorable Maxine Waters
United States House of Representatives
2344 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-0535
DC Phone: 202-225-2201
DC Fax: 202-225-7854

DC Address: The Honorable Linda T. Sanchez
United States House of Representatives
1222 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-0539
DC Phone: 202-225-6676
DC Fax: 202-226-1012

DC Address: The Honorable Sheila Jackson-Lee
United States House of Representatives
2435 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-4318
DC Phone: 202-225-3816
DC Fax: 202-225-3317

DC Address: The Honorable Bill Delahunt
United States House of Representatives
2454 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-2110
DC Phone: 202-225-3111
DC Fax: 202-225-5658


DC Address: The Honorable Artur Davis
United States House of Representatives
208 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-0107
DC Phone: 202-225-2665
DC Fax: 202-226-9567

DC Address: The Honorable Keith Ellison
United States House of Representatives
1130 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-2305
DC Phone: 202-225-4755
DC Fax: 202-225-4886

DC Address: The Honorable Anthony Weiner
United States House of Representatives
1122 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-3209
DC Phone: 202-225-6616
DC Fax: 202-226-7253

For format of letter,please scroll down below on this thread.

For sending Fax online websites like http://faxzero.com can be used. Faxzero allows 2 free faxes per day. Copy the below letter format in a word document .Please make sure you enter your Name and address at Top left hand corner with "From" notation in the document. You will have click the link you get in the email from FaxZero to deliver your fax.

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Originally Posted by MW

Can you please enlighten us on exactly how H.R. 5882 will increase wages for American citizens?

This absurd idea is coming from Bill Gates. Try to reason it out if you can. If it wasn't so tragic it would be hilarious:

http://thedistrictweekly.com/daily/writ ... e-results/

"Gates contends that the ability to employ the best minds—wherever they were born, especially since most of them have been educated in the best U.S. universities—helps stimulate the employment of Americans because four or five support jobs are created around each of them."

Now in order for those jobs to be filled with H1-Bs, an American has to be fired. These are not new jobs in which the best American competes with the best Indian for the job. No, these are jobs that were productively held by American citizens and they are replaced to make room for H1-Bs. No wage increase there, huh? And the 'four or five support jobs created'? Again, these are American held positions in technical support in which Americans are fired (as quietly as possible) from their jobs and these vacated positions magically show up as "new" jobs which are again in need of "talent" which can only be filled by job seekers from India with H1-Bs. Not much wage growth for Americans there...

Originally Posted by wakeupCall

HR 5882 has NOTHING to do with ILLEGAL immigration. It has no role to play in bringing in new workers. It WONT reduce wages (in fact it might INCREASE them). Do your research, apply your BRAIN and dont just join the bandwagon like headless chickens

Since the foreign guest worker programs are filled with fraudulent practices that make them illegal, it then follows that HR 5882 has everything to do with illegal immigration. Simple logic. Or did the Indian university you attended not teach logic, wakeupCall?

Today's lesson in logic:

Fraud in guest worker visa programs = illegal immigration

How's that for a wake up call, wakeupCall?

Originally Posted by Bowman

Originally Posted by wakeupCall

HR 5882 has NOTHING to do with ILLEGAL immigration. It has no role to play in bringing in new workers. It WONT reduce wages (in fact it might INCREASE them).

Who do you work for Wakeup, the US Chamber of Commerce?

I have run into 'wakeupCall' before. He works with a computer industry group which supports offshoring computer work to India and the shipping into the US of hundreds of thousands of H1-B visas from India. Visa recapture is their baby, and they are wining and dining every Capital Hill carpetbagger to get their claws into it:

http://www.nasscom.in/upload/9253/mem055_Oct05.pdf

ASSOCIATION OF SOFTWARE AND SERVICE COMPANIES
International Youth Centre, Teen Murti Marg, Chanakyapuri, New Delhi – 110 021 · India
Phone: 91-11-23010199 · Fax: 91-11-23015452 · E-mail: nasscom@nasscom.in
Website: www.nasscom.in
NASSCOM / MEM – 055 / 2005 -06
24 October 2005
Dear member,
Sub: Update on: Congressional action on
employment-based immigrant visas
The Senate Judiciary Committee approved a measure yesterday by a vote of 13-3
that would provide significant interim relief on employment-based immigrant
visas and of H-1B temporary visas for specialty occupation professionals, while
also satisfying its $300 million budget reconciliation obligation. The final measure
differed from that originally proposed by Chairman Specter due to amendment by
Senator Feinstein.
In short:

· The measure would take three interrelated steps to ease the shortage of
employment-based immigrant visas:

> “recaptureâ€

Originally Posted by millere

This absurd idea is coming from Bill Gates. Try to reason it out if you can. If it wasn't so tragic it would be hilarious:

http://thedistrictweekly.com/daily/writ ... e-results/

"Gates contends that the ability to employ the best minds—wherever they were born, especially since most of them have been educated in the best U.S. universities—helps stimulate the employment of Americans because four or five support jobs are created around each of them."

It's true, each H-1b workers creates a couple of jobs for ILLEGAL ALIENS!!

Originally Posted by Bowman

It's true, each H-1b workers creates a couple of jobs for ILLEGAL ALIENS!!

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/ ... cheme.html

California Man Arrested in H-1B Visa Scheme

Monday, August 4, 2008, 3:14 PM

Last week, a Riverside, Calif. man was arrested for allegedly filing almost 1,000 fraudulent documents with the U.S. Department of Labor and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement in an effort to obtain H-1B visas for illegal aliens, according to an ICE press release. The elaborate scheme described by ICE, which is similar to the type of fraud perpetrated under the employer-based visa programs that Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) and Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.) are trying to expand, enabled Alexander Sales Vista to make $5 million by charging illegal aliens for fraudulent work visas and employment records.

Over the course of more than 10 years, Vista allegedly sought work visas for more than 550 aliens, whom he claimed were going to work at companies he owned. Vista charged the aliens, many of whom are now being deported for overstaying their tourist visas, between $7,000 and $12,000 to file a petition.

Many of the aliens were granted work visas, but the jobs often did not exist because his “shellâ€