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    So the feud between Bush and Chavez is just a hoax?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy
    So the feud between Bush and Chavez is just a hoax?
    It's posteuring. There are people in Chavez's cabinet who have a real hatred for Bush&Co. and Vice versa. It is after all, two competing ideological systems. But, two systems controlled by the same people at the top.

    You know the term: Controlled Opposition. One world Govt, two systems. Socialism/Communism for the masses, and Corporatism for the Elites.
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    Has anyone ever seen this picture before? Apparently it was taken in 2001.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian503a
    Has anyone ever seen this picture before? Apparently it was taken in 2001.

    The dreaded RED X

    My eyes! My eyes!!

    Seriously, I've seen that pic, and many more.
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    You caught me in the middle of fixing it. I had to copy the picture and host it somewhere else. It appears the web site I tried to show the image from has some countermeasures to prevent pictures from getting hosted on their web site.
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    I was hoping that the animosity between them was real. I know he has no friend in Castro, Judy was correct about what happens when someone doesn't go along with the plan. I think he truly hates Bush and wants what is best for his people even if he is a socialist.

    One of my biggest fears is that " the powers that be" will try to assassinate Chavez, he is the main one holding off this FTAA agreement that will be the finish of America's sovereignty once and for all. It will shred our constitution and further erase our borders. Why do you think the borders were being left open in the first place. It was to allow the flow of illegal aliens from Latin America into the USA because their plan of making this one big continent of the Americas has been in the works for the last 40 years.

    Everything had been falling into place, I know because I have been watching it for the last 12 years since NAFTA. was signed and it has been working.

    "And yes, we've all heard the New World Order is nothing but a ridiculous American conspiracy theory. But let's be real here; it's impossible to negate the fact that there IS an organized plan for a global government. The United Nation's Local Agenda 21 is the blueprint for world government, and it's already being implemented across the globe. Just because most Americans have never heard of it doesn't mean it isn't real. It really doesn't get any more real than this".

    There were a lot of people that could see what was happening and wrote books and articles warning us, but most Americans were asleep. If anything was brought up questioning it, they were labeled kooks and conspiracy nuts to discredit them so no one would listen.

    Meanwhile the Europeans were working on their part of the plan with the EU, until it came time to vote on one constitution. That's when the French and Dutch balked and threw a monkey wrench into that phase of the plan towards One World Government. I think they had a setback with the League of Nations also, I could be mistaken.

    I think our only hope lies in the people waking up and putting an end to this.

    The United States has been signing our beautiful National Parks and resources over to the United Nations for years, yes they are the custodians of most of our treasured land. This is all taking place under Agenda 21 for sustainable development . This has been taking place world wide.

    It all ties together, follow the dots.

    Here is the United Nations List of Protected Areas under Agenda 21 for sustainable development.
    http://www.unep-wcmc.org/cgi-bin/pa_un9 ... CA&list=on

    This was an excellent link from ohflyingone, there are a lot of links on the page that will make your socks fall off. Especially the one about Israel and Syria.

    http://nord.twu.net/acl/agenda21.html#three

    John found this one that I thought was good at the same place.

    http://nord.twu.net/acl/plans.html

    Here are some of the links that I gave ohflyingone when she ask if anyone had any.



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    I have posted some articles about Agenda 21. Here are some of the links.


    http://www.alipac.us/ftopicp-30468-.html#30468

    http://www.alipac.us/ftopicp-30640-.html#30640

    http://www.alipac.us/ftopicp-27692-.html#27692 Nancy Levant writes a lot about Sustainable Development and Agenda 21. You can just google her name or Sustainable Development and Agenda 21


    Here is a good one with more links http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=9379


    Here are archives of past articles http://www.federalobserver.com/archive. ... %20Nations

    http://www.newswithviews.com/Veon/joan19.htm This one has some more articles on the same page.

    http://www.newswithviews.com/DeWeese/tom13.htm

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    Judy has hit the nail on the head as she ALWAYS does on the "free trade" issues. She is right in every aspect of the claims she's made.

    If you go to the thread about Sharon quitting, you will see several articles I've posted about NEO CONS. That should explain exactly where our "foreign policy" is coming from and why it will mean the ultimate demise of our country as we know it.

    And, I couldn't agree more about France being our friend. Just because THE PEOPLE of France had the GUTS to stand AGAINST BUSH about the war in Iraq, they have been massacred by our government and media. ALL of the PEOPLE in Europe were against that war but they were dismissed by Rumsfeld as "OLD EUROPE". BUT, as it turns out, they were absolutely, unequivocally RIGHT.

    I don't believe for a minute that Bush and Chavez are "friends". Bush feels THREATENED by Chavez because HE stands in the way of Bush's determination to globalize the world. And, the man actually has the courage to stand up against the "BIG BOYS".
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    Judy, Darlene, PM sent to you.
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    Scary stuff

    After reading about agenda 21 (and there is plenty to read!) it all adds up. Before it was "why is our government letting this and that happen". Now I know! I have been reading articles by Leonard Horowitz and they are very compelling and very possible! This bird flu virus thing is more of a scare tactic. The other scenario, since part of agenda 21 is control AND decrease the population, could be that they have already got their little bug ready for us and all this hype is so we won't really see that it is THEM that will cause this to become reality! Far fetched? I would have thought so a year ago. Not now!
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