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    The problem is on both parties we need consitancy and all we get is flip flopping. Is it asking too much to have at least one even semihonest candidate? So far there is none on both sides and none as an independant as well. While Paul has one or two good ideas...the rest of his talk puts him over th edge and falling off of the plannet. The rest have flip flopped almost on a weekly if not daily basis. Obama ... well we know what we have there and that does not even amount to qualifications of a paprboy (no offense to the paperboys). Its a crap shoot (pardon the wording) so we pick the closest thing to a president and leader that we can find. Arpaio would be good but LaRaza whould never allow him to see the light of day to take office.

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    leaving Republican, Democratic parties in drovesPreview
    True or False?

    Independents cannot vote in primary elections in the following:

    - Arizona
    - California
    - Connecticut
    - Delaware
    - District of Columbia
    - Florida
    - Kentucky
    - Maryland
    - Massachusetts
    - Nebraska
    - New Jersey
    - New Mexico
    - New York
    - North Carolina
    - Oklahoma
    - Oregon
    - Pennsylvania
    - Rhode Island
    - South Dakota
    - Utah
    - West Virginia

    In other states, independents are allowed to vote in primary elections.

    Then I found this, a bit left leaning...Ya Think?



    On one hand I want to register Repube. for the primaries.
    On the other, register Independent to let them both know their the same and suck... note: I'm not changing my position. Just looking for facts with a flavor of opine from the masters of both..

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    I don't know about other states but Independent voters can vote in the CA. primary election.

    Primary systems state-by-state

    In California, under Proposition 14, a measure that easily passed,
    traditional party primaries will be replaced in 2011 with wide-open
    elections.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_election
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    Americans Elect gains spot on presidential ballot

    Americans Elect gains spot on presidential ballot


    Marisa Lagos, Chronicle Columnist
    San Francisco ChronicleDecember 24, 2011 04:00 AM

    Next year, when California voters go to the polls to elect a president, they'll see a new political party on the ballot alongside Democrats, Republicans and others.

    Except the Americans Elect party isn't really a political party at all - and the candidates on the presidential ticket running under Americans Elect title will each have different party affiliations.

    Confused? Here's what's happening:

    Americans Elect, a nonprofit that bills itself as a nonpartisan organization "founded by citizens from across the political spectrum," wants to let Americans directly nominate a candidate for president. No Iowa caucuses, no party conventions, no traditional voting to speak of. Instead, registered voters across the United States can sign up to become a "delegate" on the Americans Elect website, and in the coming months will choose a candidate by voting online. The candidates can be drafted or declare their own candidacy.

    Once the field has been narrowed down to six people, those candidates will be asked to choose a running mate from a different political party. In June, a final nominating "convention" will take place, again online, and a ticket will be chosen. That ticket will be responsible for funding and running its own campaign, with no help from Americans Elect.

    The group is on its way to getting on the ballot in all 50 states. This week, it was certified by the California secretary of state.

    Darry Sragow, a veteran Democratic consultant who is working for Americans Elect, said the goal is to give voters across the United States a real choice in who runs for president by breaking away from party politics. By harnessing the power of the Internet, he said, voters in California and elsewhere who are often shut out of primaries can have a voice in who appears on the presidential ballot, and candidates who cannot compete in the "political marketplace" will have an opportunity to get on said ballot.

    So who is behind Americans Elect? Well, it's not entirely clear. The group is chaired by investment banker Peter Ackerman, and his son, Elliot Ackerman, is also involved; but it doesn't legally have to disclose its donors. Organizers say they have raised $22 million so far, with a goal of $30 million. And they insist that keeping donors secret is understandable.

    "Anybody who thinks there isn't retribution in politics doesn't know what they are talking about. The issue is that if you have invested a lot of time, money and effort in Democrats or Republicans and you part ways, there will be a price to pay," Sragow said, adding that donors are certainly free-release their own names. "We hope people who contribute to us will choose to reveal their identity."

    GOP shakeup:
    Senate Republicans in Sacramento will have a new leader in 2012, after Sen. Bob Dutton, R-Rancho Cucamonga (San Bernardino County), said this week that he will step down in the new year.
    Likely replacements include Sen. Bob Huff, R-Diamond Bar (Los Angeles County), who served as vice chair of the Senate Budget Committee this year and led Republican budget negotiations; and Sen. Joel Anderson, R-Alpine (San Diego County).

    The move is not a surprise: Dutton, minority leader since 2010, is expected to run for state Assembly next year. In a written statement, he indicated that the caucus should have a leader who can see things through all of 2012.

    "Much of the focus for the new leader will be, once again, dealing with a multibillion-dollar budget deficit in 2012," Dutton said. "It makes sense that we have a new leader in place before the governor announces the new budget, so he or she can begin to negotiate immediately with the majority party on a budget solution that ends California's fiscal crisis and the state's economic uncertainty."

    Liberal group finds liberal voters:
    A survey of 600 decline-to-state California voters, commissioned by an environmental group, shows clear liberal leanings among the growing segment of the electorate.

    The telephone poll, conducted by Tulchin Research between Oct. 27 and Nov. 2, was commissioned by the California League of Conservation Voters. It found that 65 percent of those polled consider themselves conservationists, 63 percent believe climate change is a serious issue that needs to be addressed, and 69 percent support government regulations dealing with the environment.

    Respondents also showed strong support for abortion rights, gay marriage and the Occupy Wall Street protests.

    It may not be too shocking that a liberal polling firm and group committed to environmental conservation found support for their causes in a poll they commissioned. But if the trends play out next year, it could be good news for Democrats and advocates for more liberal causes: The number of independent voters in California is on the rise, making the hard-to-pin-down group far more important in deciding contentious electoral issues than in decades past.

    Capitol Notebook appears every Saturday for an inside look at state politics. E-mail notebook@sfchronicle.com. Visit us at www.sfgate.com/columns/capitolnotebook.




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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    I don't know about other states but Independent voters can vote in the CA. primary election.

    Primary systems state-by-state

    In California, under Proposition 14, a measure that easily passed,
    traditional party primaries will be replaced in 2011 with wide-open
    elections.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_election
    Yes, I looked at wiki, and found a few other ifeee's on primary voting. Its weird though, like the video I found promoting Independents toward a DEMOCRAT BALLOT IN PRIMARIES? Somethings even more smelly..!

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    Quote Originally Posted by airdale View Post
    Yes, I looked at wiki, and found a few other ifeee's on primary voting. Its weird though, like the video I found promoting Independents toward a DEMOCRAT BALLOT IN PRIMARIES? Somethings even more smelly..!
    That video was made by Democrats. The Independent voter in the video could also have asked for a Republican ballot, Peace and Freedom ballot, etc.
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    Qualified Political Parties for the
    June 5, 2012, Presidential Primary Election




    American Independent Party
    • Dr. Mark Jerome Seidenberg, State Chairperson
    • 476 Deodara Street
    • Vacaville, CA 95688-2637
    • (707) 359-4884
    • www.aipca.org
    Americans Elect Party - Final Full Check Results
    Democratic Party
    Green Party
    Libertarian Party
    Peace and Freedom Party
    Republican Party
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    Voting in the Upcoming June 5, 2012, Presidential Primary Election

    If you are a voter who has declined to provide a political party preference (formerly known as a "decline to state" voter), you may be able to vote for a Presidential candidate of a specific party in the upcoming June 5, 2012, Presidential Primary Election. Each political party has the option of allowing people who register to vote without stating a political party preference to vote in their primary election.

    Political parties have until 135 days prior to an election to notify the Secretary of State whether they will allow voters who have declined to provide a political party preference to vote the ballot of that individual party.

    If you wish to vote in the primary election of a political party that allows voters who have not stated a political party preference to vote in their primary, simply ask your county elections office or ask a poll worker at your polling place for a ballot from that political party. You may not request more than one party's ballot.

    If you do not request such a ballot, you will be given a nonpartisan ballot, containing only the names of candidates for voter-nominated offices and local nonpartisan offices and measures to be voted upon at the June 5, 2012, Presidential Primary Election.

    History Behind California's Primary Election System

    Closed Primary System

    A "closed" primary system governed California's primary elections until 1996. In a closed primary, only persons who are registered members of a political party may vote the ballot of that political party.
    Open Primary System

    The provisions of the "closed" primary system were amended by the adoption of Proposition 198, an initiative statute approved by the voters at the March 26, 1996, Primary Election. Proposition 198 changed the closed primary system to what is known as a "blanket" or "open" primary, in which all registered voters may vote for any candidate, regardless of political affiliation and without a declaration of political faith or allegiance. On June 26, 2000, the United States Supreme Court issued a decision in California Democratic Party, et. al. v. Jones, stating that California's "open" primary system, established by Proposition 198, was unconstitutional because it violated a political party's First Amendment right of association. Therefore, the Supreme Court overturned Proposition 198.
    Modified Closed Primary System for Presidential Elections

    California's current "modified" closed primary system for Presidential elections was chaptered on September 29, 2000 and took effect on January 1, 2001. Senate Bill 28 (Ch. 898, Stats. 2000) implemented a "modified" closed primary system that permitted voters who had declined to provide a political party preference (formerly known as "decline to state" voters) to participate in a primary election if authorized by an individual party's rules and duly noticed by the Secretary of State.
    Top Two Candidates Open Primary Act and Voter-Nominated Offices

    On June 8, 2010, California voters approved Proposition 14, which created the Top Two Candidates Open Primary Act.
    Except for the office of U.S. President and county central committee offices, offices that used to be known as "partisan offices" (e.g., state constitutional offices, U.S. Congress, and state legislative offices) are now known as "voter-nominated" offices.
    Under the Top Two Candidates Open Primary Act, all candidates running in a primary election, regardless of their party preference, will appear on a single Primary Election ballot and voters can vote for any candidate. The top two overall vote-getters – not the top vote-getter from each qualified party and anyone using the independent nomination process – will move on to the General Election.
    Candidates for voter-nominated office can choose whether to list their party preference on the Primary and General Election ballots. Political parties can no longer formally nominate candidates for voter-nominated offices, so a candidate who finishes in the top two at the Primary Election and advances to the General Election is not the official nominee of any party for the office.

    History of Political Parties that have Adopted Party Rules Regarding No Party Preference Voters


    http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/elections_parties.htm
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