Thread: Website Brings Together Over 200 Top Immigration Experts

* 57% of the unauthorized immigrant population in America (as of 2006) is from Mexico.

I love the correct English in this one. How much do you want to bet this was written by someone who learned English as a second language?

Originally Posted by zeezil

Originally Posted by sofedup

It seemed like a great idea. However, I looked through it and I wasn't very impressed. To be honest - there does seem to be a bias. Anyone else think so?

Yep:
La Raza
PEW
MALDEF
ACLU
AILF
LA Time
NY Times
Wash. Post
NAHJ
No Border Wall
New Sanctuary Movement
---to name a few

That pretty much says it all, and they claim they present a none Bias view? Who made this site up? The Communist Party? sure looks it. Nobody will take this seriously

EDIT: I smell a Rat behind this.........SSP/NAU Money

November 26, 2007
Pros and cons of deportation

For you immigration nerds out there, here's a Web site you'll just love: Immigration ProCon.org.

The site lays out the pros and cons of key questions and issues surrounding immigration.

Credible experts, politicians, academics and think tanks offer their perspectives in a balanced pro-con debate. It's actually a rather simple and insightful approach.

Some of the questions include: Should illegal aliens, who are parents of U.S. citizen minors, be deported? Are illegal aliens paying their "fair share" of taxes?

Here's the pro-con excerpt on deportation:

PRO: "...deporting aliens is as easy as one, two, three.The next time you hear [U.S. President] George W. Bush or [U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security] Michael Chertoff say how impossible immigration enforcement is, remember this simple formula: one, go to where you know aliens are; two, arrest them; three, deport them. Don't bother asking where aliens hang out. The better question is where aren't they hanging out. Go to a bus stop, a taco truck, a convenience store, the post office or an auto repair shop. No need to round them all up at once. Just arrest one or two every day at different locations around town and the message will soon get out." -- Joe Guzzardi, English teacher at Lodi Adult School in California, "Deportation: As Easy As One, Two, Three," VDare.com, Aug. 19, 2007

CON: "I have listened to and understand the concerns of those who simply advocate sealing our borders and rounding up and deporting undocumented workers currently in residence here. But that's easier said than done... I have yet to hear a single proponent of this point of view offer one realistic proposal for locating, apprehending, and returning to their countries of origin over 11 million people. How do we do that? ...it would take 200,000 buses extending along a 1700 mile long line to deport 11 million people. That's assuming we had the resources to locate and apprehend all 11 million, or even half that number, which we don't have and, we all know, won't ever have." -- John McCain, U.S. Senator (R-AZ), Statement on the Senate floor, March 30, 2006

COMMENTS:

Posted by Mizanur Rahman at November 26, 2007 12:29 PM

You assume that those minors are truly US citizens, that may or may not be allowed to stand. There is a valid interpretation of the 14th amendment that does not automatically confer citizenship to the offspring of illegal aliens. That theory has not yet been fully tested in a court of law to my knowledge.

And by the way, here is a news flash to you lefty journos. McCain is NOT considered credible on this issue, quoting him does not help your case.

Posted by: Rorschach at November 26, 2007 02:40 PM

Cons- none.

Pros- enforcing the rule of law, protecting America's security, culture and way of life.

Easy decision in my book. Let the deportation begin.

Rorschach is correct. Senator McCain is hardly a credible source on this lssue.

Posted by: truetexanfan at November 26, 2007 03:41 PM

It seems to me these days that Americans of European descent no longer have the legitimate right to a country of their own culture. Like it or not we are forced to adapt to the hispanic one.

Posted by: David at November 26, 2007 04:57 PM
http://blogs.chron.com/immigration/arch ... st_52.html

Kinda sounds like a put up deal to me also.

Immigration 'experts'?

The organization formed in 2004,

(Came this morning)

Dear Mr. xxxxxxxxxx

Thank you for contacting ProCon.org.



This is a non-profit organization that is not membership or subscription based. We feature several controversial subjects that you may find interesting at our main site www.procon.org



Thanks for taking the time to visit our site.


Sincerely,

Javier H. Inda

Researcher

( i have wrote back asking againfor a list of the experts )




http://www.procon.org/

lol lol lol

Dear Mr. and Mrs.xxxxxxx

Thank you for replying our email.



Regarding a list of our sources, you may be interested in exploring our Source Biography (http://www.immigrationprocon.org/sourcebiographies.html) section. There you will find biographies of individuals and organizations that have different positions on the immigration debate. Please note that we offer their position to a solution and contact information when available.

I hope this addresses your concerns.



We appreciate any constructive critique of our immigrationprocon.org project, and welcome any suggestions you or your colleagues may have to offer.



Thanks for taking the time to write to us.


Sincerely,



Javier H. Inda

Researcher


Immigration ProCon.org

SOURCE BIOGRAPHIES

The individuals and organizations listed below have been quoted, referenced, or are otherwise relevant to the immigration debate, so we created a 1-2 page biography of each listed source. Not all people and organizations relevant to this debate are listed on our site.
For individuals we provide their experience, education, contact information, position statement, and more. For organizations we provide their description, mission, affiliations, membership, budget, and more.

All sources have been assigned a theoretical credibility rating ranked by stars (with five being the highest)




I. Individuals





Abernethy, Virginia Deane, Ph.D.
Abramson, Seth, J.D.
Ackleson, Jason, Ph.D.
Aguilar, David, M.A.
Alcorn, Randy
Aleinikoff, T. Alexander, J.D.
Allen, Jennifer
Alquist, Elaine, M.A.
Bacon, David
Ballenger, Cass, M.B.A.
Basham, Ralph
Bennett, Marion T., J.D.
Becerril, Andrea
Berrigan, Frida, M.A.
Bloomberg, Michael R., M.B.A.
Boehner, John
Bonner, Robert C., J.D.
Borjas, George J., Ph.D.
Buchanan, Patrick J.
Bush, George W.
Calderón, Jorge
Calderón, Felipe
Caldwell, Alicia, M.M.C.
Caldwell, Joseph George, Ph.D.
Camarota, Steven, Ph.D.
Capps, Randolph, Ph.D.
Carafano, James Jay, Ph.D.
Cerda, Victor X., J.D.
Chertoff, Michael, J.D.
Chiles, Lawton, J.D.
Chiswick, Barry, Ph.D.
Clinton, Bill, J.D.
Cornyn, John, J.D.
Corsi, Jerome
Cutler, Michael
Daley, Richard, M., J.D.
Daniels, Katharine, M.A.
Daniels, Roger, Ph.D.
deLespinasse, Paul F., Ph.D.
Dobbs, Lou
Edwards, James, Ph.D.
Endelman, Gary, J.D., Ph.D.
Feingold, Russ, J.D.
Fiss, Owen, Ph.D.
Fix, Michael, J.D.
Fobbs, Kevin
Fonte, John, Ph.D.
Fontova, Humberto
Forbes, Steve
Fortuny, Karina
Freeman, Richard B., Ph.D.
Gabbard, Stephany
Gilchrist, Jim, M.B.A.
Gingrey, Phil, M.D.
Gordon, Charles, L.L.B.
Gore, Albert Arnold, Jr.
Goyle, Rajeev, J.D.
Graham, Otis L., Ph.D.
Guttentag, Lucas, J.D.
Guzzardi, Joe
Hafetz, Jonathan, J.D.
Hagan, John, Ph.D.
Hagel, Chuck
Head, Tom
Hinojoza, Raul, Ph.D.
Horowitz, David, M.A.
Hunter, Don, M.S.
Hunter, Duncan, J.D.
Jackson-Lee, Sheila
Jacob, John
Jacoby, Tamar
Jaeger, David, Ph.D.
Jones, Richard
Jordan, Barbara C., J.D.
Judis, John B.
Kerry, John,
Kolodner, Meredith, M.A.
Kolsky, Elizabeth, Ph.D.
Kouri, Jim, M.A.
Krikorian, Mark, M.A.
Name Rating
Landau, Saul, Ph.D.
Le, C. N., Ph.D.
Leong, Karen J., Ph.D.
Lipman, Francine, L.L.M.
Lowell, Lindsay, Ph.D.
Mac Donald, Heather
McDonald, William, Ph.D.
Malanga, Steve
McGill, Chris
Mahony, Roger M.
Mangum, Brett E.
Mann, Juan
Marques, Helena S.
Martin, Susan F., Ph.D.
Massey, Douglas S., Ph.D.
Mazzoli, Romano, J.D.
McCain, John
Meissner, Doris
Nadler, Richard
Neugebauer, Randy
Neuman, Gerald L., Ph.D.
Norwood, Charlie, D.D.S.
Owens, Bill, M.A.
Palloni, Alberto, Ph.D.
Papademetriou, Demetrios, Ph.D.
Parker, Alison, J.D.
Parra, Ricardo
Passel, Jeffrey
Pelosi, Nancy
Perry, Rick
Peterson, Daneen, Ph.D.
Pham, Huyen, J.D.
Platts, Todd Russell, J.D.
Prince, Ron
Raimondo, Justin
Reno, Janet, L.L.D.
Ridge, Tom, J.D.
Riley, Michael, M.A.
Ritter, Phillip J., J.D.
Rodriguez, Cindy
Rogers, Hal, LL.B.
Rohrabacher, Dana, M.A.
Rosen, Mike, M.B.A.
Rubenstein, Edwin S., M.A.
Rumbaut, Ruben, Ph.D.
Schlafly, Phyllis, J.D.
Schurman-Kauflin, Deborah, Ph.D.
Schwarzenegger, Arnold
Selepak, Andy
Sensenbrenner, James, J.D.
Serrano, Jose
Sessions, Jeff, J.D.
Sharry, Frank
Simcox, Chris
Simpson, Alan K., J.D.
Skerry, Peter, Ph.D.
Smith, Lamar
Stein, Dan, J.D.
Sterngold, James
Stoddard, David J.
Sweeney, John J., Ph.D.
Tancredo, Thomas
Taylor, Margaret H., J.D.
Thornburgh, Nathan
Turner, Mike, J.D.
Verdery, C. Stewart, Jr., J.D.
Warren, Robert
Waslin, Michele, Ph.D.
Wei, William, Ph.D.
Weiner, Myron, Ph.D.
Wilson, Peter, J.D.
Woodrow-Lafield, Karen, Ph.D.
Wooldridge, Frosty
Zavaleta, Tony, Ph.D.


II. Organizations




About.com
American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)
Adversity.Net
American Immigration Law Foundation (AILF)
American Federation of Labor - Congress of Industrial Organizations (AFL-CIO)
American Friends Service Committee
Bear Stearns Companies Inc.
Britannica Encyclopedia
California Police Chief's Association (CPCA)
California Senate Public Safety Committee
Canadian Network on Cuba (CNC)
Carrying Capacity Network (CCN)
Catholic Legal Immigration Network (CLINIC)
Center for Advanced Studies in Science and Technology Policy (CASSTP)
Center for Immigration Studies (CIS)
Center for Media Democracy (CMD)
Colorado Alliance for Immigration Reform (CAIR)
Congressional Research Service (CRS)
Constitutional Party National Veterans Coalition
Deseret News
Families For Freedom
Family Security Matters (FSM)
Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR)
Field Institute
Greenville News
Human Events
Human Rights Watch
International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW)
IllegalAliens.US
Immigration Legal Resource Center (ILRC)
IndyBay
Institute of Governmental Studies (IGS)
Lawyers.com
Let Freedom Ring
Los Angeles Times
Major Cities Chiefs (MCC)
Mexican American Legal Defence and Educational Fund (MALDEF)
Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlán (MECHA)
Name Rating
National Association of Hispanic Journalists (NAHJ)
National Coalition for Haitian Rights (NCHR)
National Council of La Raza (NCLR)
National Foundation for American Policy (NFAP)
National League of Cities (NLC)
New America Media
New Sanctuary Movement
New York Times
No Border Wall
NumbersUSA.com
Opinion Research Corporation
Pew Research Center
Rasmussen Reports
SecretarÃ*a de Relaciones Exteriores
Service Employees International Union (SEIU)
Siskind Susser Bland, LLC
Texas Catholic Conference
The Lower East Side Tenement Museum
The Wall Street Journal
United States Immigration Support
Urban Institute
U.S. Census Bureau (USCB)
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS)
U.S. Coast Guard (USCG)
U.S. Customs and Border Protection (USCBP)
U.S. Department of Homeland Security (USDHS)
U.S. Department of Justice (USDOJ)
U.S. Department of State (USDOS)
U.S. Government Accountability Office (USGAO)
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (USICE)
U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (USINS)
U.S. Internal Revenue Service (IRS)
U.S. Library of Congress (LOC)
University of Southern Alabama
Washington Post
Western Governors' Association
You Don't Speak For Me



http://www.immigrationprocon.org/sourcebiographies.html

Originally Posted by sofedup

It seemed like a great idea. However, I looked through it and I wasn't very impressed. To be honest - there does seem to be a bias. Anyone else think so?

YES THERE IS BIAS ALRIGHT. LOOK TO SEE WHO GOT THE MOST "GOLD STARS".

Illegal and Legal Immigration issues should be decided by the citizens NOT special interest groups.The truely fair thing to do is allow citizens to VOTE on different aspects of Immigration.IMO

This is OUR country and WE The People were granted,by our constitution,the right to SELF Govern.Not Big Business or Special Interest groups.