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    Exclamation Activism Idea - Joe Manchin has some explaining to do.

    Joe Manchin has repeatedly said, “If I can’t go home and explain it, I can’t vote for it.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...b78_story.html
    https://www.wvgazettemail.com/opinio...2d0af870f.html
    https://www.manchin.senate.gov/newsr...the-people-act

    Well, Joe Manchin has plenty of explaining to do.

    Recently, when asked about putting immigration reform in the reconciliation bill, Manchin said "I heard it is in there ... I'm fine. I am a 2013 immigration supporter so you can look at the 2013 bill. I thought that was a great bill then. I thought if we had that bill then we wouldn't have all the problems we have today."
    https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/15/p...ons/index.html

    If he is voting for a reconciliation bill that includes “immigration reform” he is breaking a number of promises that he made to the people of West Virginia.

    1. Manchin said the following: “We should all be alarmed at how the budget reconciliation process is being used by both parties to stifle debate around the major issues facing our country today. … If the filibuster is eliminated or budget reconciliation becomes the norm, a new and dangerous precedent will be set to pass sweeping, partisan legislation that changes the direction of our nation every time there is a change in political control. The consequences will be profound — our nation may never see stable governing again. … Instead of fixating on eliminating the filibuster or shortcutting the legislative process through budget reconciliation, it is time we do our jobs.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...b78_story.html
    If he supports immigration reform in the budget reconciliation bill, this is broken promise #1.

    2. Manchin said that “congressional action … must be the result of both Democrats and Republicans coming together to find a pathway forward or we risk further dividing and destroying the republic we swore to protect and defend as elected officials” and “to seek bipartisan compromise no matter how difficult and to develop the political bonds that end divisions and help unite the country we love.”
    https://www.wvgazettemail.com/opinio...2d0af870f.html
    https://www.manchin.senate.gov/newsr...the-people-act
    He also said that the “time has come to end these political games, and to usher a new era of bipartisanship where we find common ground on the major policy debates facing our nation.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...b78_story.html
    If he supports immigration reform in the budget reconciliation bill, this is broken promise #2.

    3. Manchin said that when “Americans vote to send their two senators to Washington, they trust that they will work to represent the interests of their state on equal footing with 98 other senators.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...b78_story.html
    Manchin also said that “as long as I have the privilege of being your U.S. senator, I will fight to represent the people of West Virginia”.
    https://www.wvgazettemail.com/opinio...2d0af870f.html
    https://www.manchin.senate.gov/newsr...the-people-act

    But in West Virginia which is one of the most pro-Trump states in the country, people oppose amnesty.

    A Zogby poll said that if Manchin "moves to include immigration for millions of illegal immigrants in an infrastructure bill, new polling shows it could be a career killer ... with 55% less likely' to support him and 29% 'more likely.'"
    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/immi...213300278.html

    The Zogby poll also found that “52% of voters oppose of including an amnesty for illegal aliens in a bill to fund infrastructure upgrades. Only 34% would support such an effort. ... 52% of voters agree that granting 'amnesty, or a pathway to citizenship, to millions of illegal immigrants already in the United States' would exacerbate the current immigration and border crisis. 59% of West Virginia voters hold the Biden administration and its policies responsible for the current immigration and border crisis. 70% believe that the 'situation at the border represents a humanitarian, health, and national security crisis for the United States and steps must be taken to end it.'”
    https://www.fairus.org/press-release...pposes-amnesty
    So if Manchin supports immigration reform in the budget reconciliation bill, this is broken promise #3.

    This would make Joe Manchin another "Dirty Democrat" hashtag: #DirtyDemocrat

    There are more examples of Manchin accomplishing at very least the opposite of what he claims to believe in if he supports immigration reform in Sander's budget reconciliation bill. Manchin said that “what I’ve seen during my time in Washington is that every party in power will always want to exercise absolute power, absolutely. Our founders were wise to see the temptation of absolute power and built in specific checks and balances to force compromise that serves to preserve our fragile democracy. The Senate, its processes and rules, have evolved over time to make absolute power difficult while still delivering solutions to the issues facing our country and I believe that’s the Senate’s best quality.”
    https://www.wvgazettemail.com/opinio...2d0af870f.html
    https://www.manchin.senate.gov/newsr...the-people-act

    Manchin also asked “Do we really want to live in an America where one party can dictate and demand everything and anything it wants, whenever it wants?”
    https://www.wvgazettemail.com/opinio...2d0af870f.html
    https://www.manchin.senate.gov/newsr...the-people-act

    If Manchin supports passing immigration reform through reconciliation the answer to that question is yes.
    In 2018, Center For American Progress (CAP) Action Fund circulated a memo which said that the “fight to protect Dreamers is ... a critical component of the Democratic Party’s future electoral success” and that if “Democrats don’t try to do everything in their power to defend Dreamers, that will jeopardize Democrats’ electoral chances in 2018 and beyond. In short, the next few weeks will tell us a lot about the Democratic Party and its long-term electoral prospects.”
    https://cdn.americanprogressaction.o...OnDreamers.pdf
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/08/le...toral-success/

    But this budget bill would legalize more than just dreamers and “could ultimately regularize the status of up to 10 million people”.
    https://thehill.com/latino/563047-ma...in-budget-deal

    This would benefit the Democratic Party even more. “The partisan impact of immigration is relatively uniform throughout the country, even though local Republican parties have taken different positions on illegal immigration. Although high immigration may work against Democratic policy goals, such as raising wages for the poor and protecting the environment, it does improve Democratic electoral prospects. In contrast, immigration may help Republican business interests hold down wages, but it also undermines the party’s political fortunes.”
    http://www.cis.org/sites/cis.org/fil...can-demise.pdf

    “Even in Texas and Florida, often thought to be an exception, the rising immigrant population across counties is associated with sharply diminished support for Republican candidates.”
    http://www.cis.org/sites/cis.org/fil...can-demise.pdf

    Also, about “six-in-ten unauthorized immigrants live in the six states with the largest populations of unauthorized immigrants—California, Florida, Illinois, New Jersey, New York and Texas”.
    http://www.pewhispanic.org/interacti...ed-immigrants/

    So Texas, Florida, Georgia, and Arizona and more will all go blue as a result of amnesty. So, in the words of Joe Manchin, the Democratic Party will “dictate and demand everything and anything it wants, whenever it wants”
    https://www.wvgazettemail.com/opinio...2d0af870f.html
    https://www.manchin.senate.gov/newsr...the-people-act

    Joe Manchin said “If they’re eliminating fossil [fuels], and I am finding out there’s a lot of language in places eliminating fossil, that’s very disturbing".
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/infra...b00ef876185e8c

    But if Manchin votes for amnesty he is voting to eliminate fossil fuels because amnesty will cause a "drop in presidential Republican vote shares throughout the country."
    http://www.cis.org/sites/cis.org/fil...can-demise.pdf

    A Pew Hispanic poll found that "82% of foreign-born Hispanics think controlling gun ownership is more important than protecting gun ownership rights".
    http://www.pewhispanic.org/2014/10/1...easure-issues/

    More evidence that amnesty will cause support for gun control comes from Virginia.

    In 2004, "President George W. Bush won Virginia with ease for a second time — an eight-point victory that was never in doubt. Over the subsequent eight years, nearly the opposite happened: Barack Obama won the state twice, becoming the first Democrat to win here since Lyndon B. Johnson’s victory in 1964. ... What is clear is that the demographics of the state have shifted dramatically in the space of a single decade, with populations of educated, high-income professionals as well as immigrants and other minorities — all voters who tend to choose Democrats — growing in urban areas. These shifts reflect national trends, Pew research shows."
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...1a1_story.html

    "Unlike three decades ago, the residents are often from other places, like India and Korea. And when they vote, it is often for Democrats. ... The influx of immigrants and their U.S.-born children, the spread of high-density suburbia and the growth of higher education all tilt the field toward the Democrats."
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/09/u...publicans.html

    And one of the reasons was gun control. "Guns, that is the most pressing issue for me,' said Vijay Katkuri, 38, a software engineer from southern India, explaining why he voted for a Democratic challenger in Tuesday’s elections. He was shopping for chicken at the Indian Spice Food Market. 'There are lots of other issues, but you can only fix them if you are alive.' Mr. Katkuri’s vote — the first of his life — helped flip a longtime Republican State Senate district and deliver the Virginia statehouse to the Democratic Party for the first time in a generation. ... One in 10 people eligible to vote in the state were born outside the United States, up from one in 28 in 1990."
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/09/u...publicans.html

    So if Manchin votes for amnesty, he is also voting for gun control and to violate the second amendment rights of gun owners in West Virginia because amnesty will cause a "drop in presidential Republican vote shares throughout the country."
    http://www.cis.org/sites/cis.org/fil...can-demise.pdf

    So by supporting amnesty in the reconciliation bill, Joe Manchin is putting the Democratic Party above the people of West Virginia. This means that in the future the Democratic Party will eliminate the filibuster, eliminate fossil fuels, hurt the economy of West Virginia, and violate the second amendment rights of West Virginia gunowners.

    Joe Manchin is also putting corporations above the people of West Virginia.

    Harvard economist George Borjas says that immigration "induces a substantial redistribution of wealth, away from workers who compete with immigrants and toward employers and other users of immigrant services. Workers lose because immigrants drag wages down. Employers gain because immigrants drag wages down. These wealth transfers may be in the tens of billions of dollars per year."
    https://cis.org/Report/Top-Ten-Symptoms-Immigration

    Black civil rights leader and Democrat Barbara Jordan also agreed with George Borjas. Barbara Jordan recommended "the elimination of the admission of unskilled workers".
    https://www.numbersusa.com/sites/def..._June%2028.pdf

    Barbara Jordan also said that there is "no national interest in continuing to import lesser-skilled and unskilled workers to compete in the most vulnerable parts of our labor force. Many American workers do not have adequate job prospects. We should make their task easier to find employment, not harder."
    https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...ration-legacy/

    The evidence of this is also in the words of the author of the budget resolution, Bernie Sanders whose budget draft would create "multiyear pathways to legal permanent residency, and potentially citizenship, for four groups of immigrants without legal status."
    https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden...9ab097bb168660

    Here is what Bernie Sanders had to say back in 2015: “Open borders? No, that's a Koch brothers proposal. ... It would make everybody in America poorer ... What right-wing people in this country would love is an open-border policy. Bring in all kinds of people, work for $2 or $3 an hour, that would be great for them. I don't believe in that. I think we have to raise wages in this country, I think we have to do everything we can to create millions of jobs.”
    https://www.vox.com/2015/7/28/901449...x-conversation
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf-k6qOfXz0

    So Bernie Sanders admits immigration drive down wages and then sponsors the budget resolution that stuffs amnesty into the reconciliation bill. So who is included in Bernie Sanders amnesty plan?

    According to the Hill the "proposal, as currently funded, would include undocumented immigrants who came to the United States as minors, beneficiaries of the Temporary Protected Status program, essential workers and immigrant farmworkers."
    https://thehill.com/latino/563047-ma...in-budget-deal

    So who else is supporting amnesty for those same groups? In a letter that written by the Bush Institute and 20+ organizations, said that they support the "efforts in Congress to advance the Farm Workforce Modernization Act, create a permanent pathway to citizenship for Dreamers, and allow those on Temporary Protected Status to apply for green cards." They also mention "essential workers" and wrote that "undocumented immigrants who already live in the U.S.—should have an opportunity to earn legal status or citizenship."
    https://www.bushcenter.org/publicati...and-house.html
    https://www.bushcenter.org/about-the...on-system.html

    So the George W. Bush Institute and Bernie Sanders support giving amnesty to the same groups of people. One of the organizations that "distributed a joint letter calling upon our nation's policymakers to reform the whole of the American immigration system" is the "Americans for Prosperity".
    https://www.bushcenter.org/about-the...on-system.html

    So who created and funds the Americans for Prosperity? Americans for Prosperity was "founded by the Koch brothers in 2004".
    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...ization-479148

    "David Koch’s charitable giving has included $58 million donated to nonprofits that could include groups such as Americans for Prosperity".
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/koch-brothers

    George W. Bush also admitted the role of the Koch Brothers in his effort to support amnesty. In an interview with Hugh Hewitt he said, "So the Bush Center is spearheading a reform movement. It’s quiet except for this book, which makes it not quiet. But it’s, we’re lining up. And you know, we’re talking to people about, you know, what needs to be done. I mean, the Koch Brothers, for example, I know that’s a word that scares a lot of people on the left, but they’re very much in favor of a rational immigration policy. And they’re putting money behind it, and they’re pushing hard. And so we’re very much involved with what you said."
    https://hughhewitt.com/president-geo...ration-debate/

    So Bernie Sanders admits that immigration drives down wages and supports giving the same groups of immigrants amnesty that the Koch Brothers do.

    There's more evidence against Bernie Sanders. There's another group called Fwd.us that supports giving a "pathway to citizenship for the roughly 11 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S."
    https://www.fwd.us/immigration/pathway/

    So who is part of Fwd.us? Two of the founders are Bill Gates, Founder and Technology Advisor, Microsoft, and Mark Zuckerberg, Founder & CEO, Facebook.
    https://www.fwd.us/founders/

    Major Contributors to Fwd.us also include Brad Smith, President & Chief Legal Officer, Microsoft, Chris Cox Chief Product Officer, Facebook, and Greg Penner, Chairman, Walmart
    https://www.fwd.us/founders/

    Why does this matter? Because those three contributors just happened to be three of the biggest contributors to Bernie Sanders 2020 Presidential Campaign. Microsoft gave $430,804, Walmart gave $271,790, and Facebook gave $240,915.
    https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-pre...s?id=N00000528

    I guess Bernie Sanders should be known from now on as "Sellout Sanders" hashtag:#SelloutSanders

    But Bernie Sanders isn't the only "political prostitute". What about Joe Manchin? Two of the biggest contributors to Manchin's 2018 Senate campaign include Goldman Sachs which gave $56,000 and Paul, Weiss et al which gave $27,500.
    https://www.opensecrets.org/races/co...id=WVS1&spec=N

    So why do those donors matter? Goldman Sachs and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP belong to a group called the New American Economy.
    http://www.newamericaneconomy.org/wp...rship_List.pdf

    The New American Economy is another group "committed to the fight for comprehensive immigration reform — including a full path to citizenship for the 11 million undocumented".
    https://www.newamericaneconomy.org/2...ration-system/

    So like Bernie Sanders, two of Manchin's biggest contributors Goldman Sachs and Paul, Weiss et al support amnesty. And why is Goldman Sachs, an international bank giving money to a West Virginia Senator? Seems to me that #SelloutSanders has a sidekick "Joe the Ho Manchin" hashtag:#JoeTheHoManchin.

    So this is part of what Biden's phrase "Build Back Better" really means. Build Back Better for multinational corporations, the elite, and illegal aliens and not for the American people.

    Manchin has also expressed concern over the 3.5 trillion dollar price tag of bill. “'We are going to have to pay for all this,' Manchin said, adding that he also is concerned about government debt and the risk of inflation."
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...t-yet-on-board

    But if amnesty is part of the reconciliation bill, it will probably cost a lot more than 3.5 trillion.
    A CNN article at https://money.cnn.com/2018/01/04/new...are/index.html says that "as many as 71 percent of undocumented adults do not have insurance."

    An article in the Federalist at http://thefederalist.com/2015/08/26/...-of-deception/ said that "'71 percent of illegal-alien headed households with children make use of at least one major welfare program.' That number jumps to 79 percent in illegal households from Mexico. By comparison, only 38.7 percent of households headed by U.S. citizens use at least one major welfare program."

    Obama admitted this. In his book, "The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream" on page 263 at https://books.google.com/books?id=k85pcYttpW0C&pg=PA263 Obama wrote that illegal immigration "threatens to depress further the wages of blue-collar Americans and put strains on an already overburdened safety net."

    But amnesty will also make illegal immigration worse.

    This will encourage people to come illegally from Mexico. A Center for Immigration Studies article at http://cis.org/ZogbyPoll-EffectsOfAmnesty mentioned a Zogby poll of Mexicans which said that a "clear majority of people in Mexico, 56 percent, thought giving legal status to illegal immigrants in the United States would make it more likely that people they know would go to the United States illegally" and of "Mexicans with a member of their immediate household in the United States, 65 percent said a legalization program would make people they know more likely to go to America illegally." The poll also stated that increased immigration enforcement was one of the reasons "fewer people were going to America as illegal immigrants and more were coming back to Mexico."

    This will also encourage people to come illegally from the rest of Latin America. What about the rest of Latin America? According to a Gallup poll "42 million -- said they want to go to the United States. ... Seekers of citizenship or asylum are watching to determine exactly when and how is the best time to make their move."
    https://news.gallup.com/opinion/chai...n-migrate.aspx

    And it will even encourage people to come illegally from all across the globe. "In the remote Darien region of Eastern Panama, migrants and asylum seekers from around the world arrived ... Migrants from Africa, Southeast Asia, the Middle East, Cuba, and Haiti converge here, all trying to get to the U.S."
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/ho...dly-darien-gap

    And they are coming because "a lot of asylum seekers right now are hopeful is that, with the new administration of Joe Biden, that there may be a lot of dramatic changes that could allow them to settle into a life more quickly and easily in the United States."
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/th...er-in-brooklyn

    In a story on PBS Newshour at https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy...ees-in-america economist Jeffrey Sachs said that if "borders were simply opened and anybody could go where they want, ... hundreds of millions of people would be on the move and would overwhelm budgets and social services".

    So if amnesty is included in the reconciliation bill, the cost will probably be a lot higher than 3.5 trillion.

    Manchin also said that "reform that is done in a partisan manner will all but ensure partisan divisions continue to deepen"
    https://www.wvgazettemail.com/opinio...2d0af870f.html
    https://www.manchin.senate.gov/newsr...the-people-act
    and "partisan policymaking won’t instill confidence in our democracy — it will destroy it."
    https://www.wvgazettemail.com/opinio...2d0af870f.html
    https://www.manchin.senate.gov/newsr...the-people-act

    But that is exactly what will happen if Manchin supports immigration reform in the reconciliation bill. He risk getting the exact opposite of what he has intended.

    Journalist and author George Packer, says that there are "four ways in which Americans identify themselves and the country, dominant ways."
    https://www.pbs.org/wnet/amanpour-an...-groups-1nsqw/

    Each of those ways in which "Americans identify themselves and the country" is an "identity" and amnesty would make this worse.

    Harvard University professor Samuel Huntington said that "Mexican immigration is a unique, disturbing, and looming challenge to our cultural integrity, our national identity, and potentially to our future as a country."
    https://cis.org/Report/Reconsidering...o-Special-Case

    One of reasons given by Huntington is that "Mexican immigrants are heavily concentrated in the Southwest and particularly in Southern California."
    https://cis.org/Report/Reconsidering...o-Special-Case

    Historian John Higham was also "concerned about the intense concentration of Latino immigrants in Southern California and Miami."
    https://cis.org/Historian-John-Higha...it-Immigration

    Higham wrote that "numbers and concentrated visibility in specific regions have reached a level at which our history should have warned us to expect serious trouble …. For the first time we may be creating enclaves of permanent minorities on a pattern familiar in other parts of the world, where a dominant ethnic group dwelling at the center of the country is surrounded by minorities on the periphery," and that a "geographic pattern that produces bitter conflict from Quebec to Tibet is becoming possible in the United States."
    https://cis.org/Historian-John-Higha...it-Immigration

    So it seems to me that amnesty could result in five ways in which Americans identify themselves and polarize our country even further.

    A 2007 survey by Pew Research Center said that in "nearly every country surveyed, people worry about losing their traditional culture and national identities, and they feel their way of life needs protection against foreign influences. Importantly, the poll finds widespread concerns about immigration."
    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2...t-immigration/

    So what other countries have issues with "national identity" and what are their lives like? Here are few examples.

    Example #1 - The Ukraine and the Russian Separatists
    In 2006, Russians living in the Ukraine claimed "that a repressive government in the capital, Kiev, is bent on imposing a nationalistic identity" and that "stark ethnic and cultural divisions that continue to haunt Ukraine".
    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/24/wo...fore-vote.html

    Within a decade civil war broke out in the Ukraine and it is still being fought to this day.

    Example #2 - Israel and Palestine

    Here are two excerpts of identity on Israel and the Palestinians

    "Israel’s parliament, has again stirred deep emotions about the identity of the Jewish state, and how Israelis seek to define themselves and the others who shared the land of Israel."
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/th...-jewish-people

    "These are my fellow citizens. And what we need to do in terms of our internal dynamics, how to bring the 20 percent of Israel that is Arab, that's Palestinian, citizens of Israel, how to bring them closer into the mainstream, how to bring them into a shared sense of a civic common identity with Jews, that, I think, is ultimately the deepest domestic challenge for Israel"
    https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/amp...-21/segment/01

    Example #3 - The Kurds

    "Millions of Kurds in Northern Iraq went to the polls today to vote on whether to begin the process of creating their own nation, and separating from the rest of Iraq. ... Voting for a new country, a national identity for themselves ... Neighboring countries Turkey, Syria and Iran are threatening military action if more moves towards independence are made. They are afraid the Kurdish minorities in their own countries could start agitating for independence too." One Turkish Kurd said, "We don’t say we are from Kurdish Turkey, or Kurdish Iran or Kurdish Syria. We say we are from Northern Kurdistan or Eastern Kurdistan or Western Kurdistan. We are from Kurdistan."
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/fa...d-independence

    For those who insist on calling us a nation of immigrants, here is what a couple of the founding fathers said that I think could be a good description of amnesty.

    Benjamin Franklin expressed concern about too much German immigration and asked "Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs"?"
    https://books.google.com/books?id=9shiAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA320

    In other words, is open borders and amnesty making these illegal aliens American or if they don't assimilate is it making America foreign? For the record Benjamin Franklin got what he wanted and after the French and Indian War, German immigration was halted.

    Here's an excerpt of what founding father and immigrant, Alexander Hamilton said: "The United States have already felt the evils of incorporating a large number of foreigners into their national mass; ... it has served very much to divide the community and to distract our councils. ... "The permanent effect of such a policy will be, that in times of great public danger there will be always a numerous body of men, of whom there may be just grounds of distrust; the suspicion alone will weaken the strength of the nation".
    https://books.google.com/books?id=hm0FAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA776

    Senator Manchin is one of those people who has wanted to give amnesty to illegal aliens who were looking for a better life. Senator Manchin said, "Immigration reform should be a pathway to citizenship. People have been here — they might have come here the wrong way but they came here for the right reason. They’ve been here, they’ve been productive. We have children that came here, that have no other home but America."
    https://www.breitbart.com/economy/20...-the-children/

    In response to the argument of those who feel compassion for the illegal aliens who are fleeing violence or are looking for a better life economically and for those who think that America can handle it as a humanitarian challenge because we are the most powerful nation in the world or that we are a nation of immigrants. Think again.

    According to the Roman Historian, Ammianus, in 376 "a barbarian host composed of different distant nations, which had suddenly been driven by force from their own country ... begged that the people thus driven from their homes and now encamped on the other side of the river, might be kindly received by us, the affair seemed a cause of joy rather than of fear, according to the skilful flatterers who were always extolling and exaggerating the good fortune of the emperor; congratulating him that an embassy had come from the furthest corners of the earth unexpectedly, offering him a large body of recruits ; and that, by combining the strength of his own nation with these foreign forces, he would have an army absolutely invincible; ... Full of this hope he sent forth several officers to
    bring this ferocious people and their waggons into our territory. And such great pains were taken to gratify this nation which was destined to overthrow the empire of Rome, that not one was left behind, not even of those who were stricken with mortal disease. ... In this way, through the turbulent zeal of violent people, the ruin of the Roman empire was brought on. This, at all events, is neither obscure nor uncertain, that the unhappy officers who were intrusted with the charge of
    conducting the multitude of the barbarians across the river, though they repeatedly endeavoured to calculate their
    numbers, at last abandoned the attempt as hopeless : and the man who would wish to ascertain the number might
    as well (as the most illustrious of poets ' says) attempt to count the waves in the African sea, or the grains of sand
    tossed about by the zephyr."
    https://books.google.com/books?id=hh8NAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA585
    https://books.google.com/books?id=hh8NAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA586

    So there you have it. Giving asylum to large numbers of immigrants and open borders destroyed the Roman Empire. The destruction of Rome by immigration was also referred to by Alexander Hamilton, who was himself an immigrant.

    Founding Father, Alexander Hamilton wrote that "it is known, that hardly any thing contributed more to the downfall of Rome, than her precipitate communication of the privileges of citizenship to the inhabitants of Italy at large."
    https://books.google.com/books?id=hm0FAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA774

    So if Democrats like Senator Manchin pass amnesty through this reconcilation bill I will consider it an act of treason and I will consider those who vote for amnesty to be American versions of the Roman Emperor Valens who killed their own country.

    Joe Manchin said, "partisan policymaking won’t instill confidence in our democracy — it will destroy it."
    https://www.wvgazettemail.com/opinio...2d0af870f.html
    https://www.manchin.senate.gov/newsr...the-people-act

    If Manchin and the Democrats put amnesty in the reconciliation bill, that is exactly what might happen.

    In 2007, almost a decade before Trump was elected President and almost a decade before Britain supported Brexit because of immigration, a Pew Research Center survey found that in our "rapidly changing world, people from nations both rich and poor worry about losing their traditional culture. In 46 of 47 countries, majorities say their traditional way of life is getting lost."
    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2...global-change/

    The survey also stated the following: "Majorities of Americans and Canadians also say that there should be more restrictions on people entering their countries than there is today. Three-quarters of Americans and 62% of Canadians express that opinion. ... opinions about immigration are closely linked to perceptions about threats to a country’s culture. In 46 of 47 countries, those who favor stricter immigration controls are also more likely to believe their way of life needs to be protected against foreign influence. In every region, this relationship is generally strong and consistent."
    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2...f-immigration/

    The founding fathers of our country agreed the with results of the survey.
    In the words of Thomas Jefferson the illegal aliens will "bring with them the principles of the governments they leave, imbibed in their early youth ... they will transmit to their children. In proportion to their numbers, they will share with us in the legislation. They will infuse into it their spirit, warp and bias its directions".
    https://books.google.com/books?id=NDo_AAAAYAAJ&pg=PA129

    In the words of Alexander Hamilton the illegal aliens or "foreigners will generally be apt to bring with them attachments to the persons they have left behind; to the country of their nativity, and to its particular customs and manners.
    They will also entertain opinions on government congenial with those under which they have lived ... The influx of
    foreigners must, therefore, tend to produce a heterogeneous compound; to change and corrupt the national spirit; to complicate and confound public opinion; to introduce foreign propensities. In the composition of society, the harmony of the ingredients is all-important, and whatever tends to a discordant intermixture must have an injurious tendency.
    The United States have already felt the evils of incorporating a large number of foreigners into their national mass ; by promoting in different classes different predilections in favor of particular foreign nations, and antipathies against others, it has served very much to divide the community and to distract our councils. It has been often likely to compromit the interests of our own country in favor of another. The permanent effect of such a policy will be, that in times of great public danger there will be always a numerous body of men, of whom there may be just grounds of distrust; the suspicion alone will weaken the strength of the nation, but their force may be actually employed in assisting an invader."
    https://books.google.com/books?id=hm0FAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA775
    https://books.google.com/books?id=hm0FAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA776

    Benjamin Franklin expressed concern about too much German immigration and asked "Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs"?"
    https://books.google.com/books?id=9shiAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA320

    In other words, is open borders and amnesty making these illegal aliens American or if they don't assimilate is it making America foreign? For the record Benjamin Franklin got his way and after the French and Indian War, German immigration was halted.

    But 14 years after the the Pew Survey results, in spite of the election of Donald Trump, the passage of Brexit, with illegal aliens pouring across the border with covid and people in this country still out of work because of covid, the Democratic Party is trying to pass a partisan reconciliation bill that "could ultimately regularize the status of up to 10 million people" and "would mark the first time in 35 years that Congress dictates a liberalization of immigration policy after decades of increasing border security and immigration enforcement."
    https://thehill.com/latino/563047-ma...in-budget-deal

    This amnesty bill is the exact opposite of the founding fathers and what people in the Pew survey around the globe want.

    All we keep hearing about is the plight of refugees and immigrants. We hear stories about refugees who "return to a country that they don't recognize, where they have no place, and they go back without their children or grandchildren".
    https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/amp...-07/segment/01

    Well that sounds similar to a story I read in the New York Times where a Virginia resident named Charles Poland said that the place where he lives is "a totally different world, ... If my parents came back today, they wouldn’t recognize the place. The changes came like a tidal wave." And the cause was an "influx of immigrants and their U.S.-born children".
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/09/u...publicans.html

    In other words, by supporting amnesty the Democrats are doing to their own citizens what foreign leaders in other countries have done to refugees who fled their countries.

    Historian John Higham wrote that "in considering the short-sighted self-interest that allows illegal immigration to run wild, all of us should bear in mind ... the growing dangers and inequities it produces".
    https://cis.org/Historian-John-Higha...it-Immigration

    As far as I am concerned if the federal government won't restrict immigration, secure the border, and refuse to give people amnesty, I fear that in the future America will end up in a civil war like the Ukraine or Syria. I have heard predictions that America may no longer be one country by 2040 and I think those predictions may come to pass.

    Bernie Sanders, the author of the amnesty budget resolution, a.k.a. #selloutsanders said back in 2015: "Open borders ... you're doing away with the concept of a nation state, and I don't think there's any country in the world that believes in that."
    https://www.vox.com/2015/7/28/901449...x-conversation
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf-k6qOfXz0

    And I will add that amnesty to use the words of Bernie Sanders is also "doing away with the concept of a nation state".

    Joe Manchin said "partisan policymaking won’t instill confidence in our democracy — it will destroy it."
    https://www.wvgazettemail.com/opinio...2d0af870f.html
    https://www.manchin.senate.gov/newsr...the-people-act

    And that is exactly what Manchin could do if he supports amnesty in the reconciliation bill.

    One thing is for sure if amnesty passes in the reconciliation bill, one immediate consequence will be that I will #BoycottTheShot.

    https://www.alipac.us/f12/acitivism-...heshot-387329/

    So if Manchin votes for amnesty in the reconciliation bill he will be contributing to vaccine hesitancy.

    A Bretibart article at https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-corporations/ said that "32 legislators from West Virginia’s House of Delegates — led by Delegate Riley Keaton — wrote to Manchin, requesting that he drop support for passing amnesty via reconciliation".

    The contact information for those delegates can be found at https://www.wvlegislature.gov/House/roster.cfm

    Let's contact them and get them to pass the information that I have posted to as many of their voters as possible and get them all to pressure Manchin to oppose amnesty in the reconciliation bill and also urge the state legislature to support changing the West Virginia constitution to allow recall elections of U.S. Senators.
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