Thread: White House compares illegal immigration to speeding

White House compares illegal immigration to speeding

Bill Sammon, The Examiner
May 26, 2006 5:13 PM (5 hrs ago)

WASHINGTON - The White House on Friday said a Senate bill that would grant legal status to illegal immigrants is analogous to a traffic law that allows a speeder to pay a fine and continue driving.

"If you had a traffic ticket and you paid it, you're not forever a speeder, are you?" White House Press Secretary Tony Snow said in response to questions from The Examiner.

"So the fact is, you have paid your debt to society," he added. "And we have come up with a way to make sure that the debt to society gets paid. Then you move forward."

The "traffic ticket" analogy raised eyebrows on Capitol Hill, where many House Republicans regard illegal immigration as a grave crime.

"I don't know if Tony meant to trivialize it or not," said Will Adams, spokesman for Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo. "But it's certainly misleading."

"The penalty for a speeding ticket is a fine," he added. "The penalty for being here illegally is being removed from this country. But the president doesn't want illegal aliens to go home."

Snow emphasized that illegals would have to pay fines, learn English and wait years for a chance at full citizenship. But Adams called that "a slap on the hand" compared to deportation.

"Here's a more apt analogy," he said. "You get stopped for speeding, and you say to the cop: "Hey listen, you're about to give me a $300 ticket. How about we make it 20 bucks and just call it even?"

Snow predicted that House Republicans would eventually drop their opposition to the Senate bill, which passed Thursday. The bill, which includes a guest worker program that would grant legal status to aliens, is headed to a conference committee for possible reconciliation with a House bill aimed at beefing up border security.

Snow suggested the guest worker program could be sold to even ardent opponents like Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wisconsin, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee.

"Chairman Sensenbrenner, who's got some real problems with various aspects, has said publicly that the temporary worker program has merit," Snow said.

"There are areas in which members of the House are going to agree with the president," he added. "I certainly don't want to be speaking for Chairman Sensenbrenner, but the fact is, you know politics."

But Sensenbrenner appeared unmoved.

"What's going on now, in calling it a pathway to citizenship or earned legalization, is not honest because it is amnesty," he said at a news conference.
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Please......but you don't just pay your fine and all is well even with a traffic ticket. Your insurance goes up. You have points that hang on your license. Depending on your job you can loose it or be kept from getting one for having a ticket. Too bad it's not that easy.....but any crime follows you around. Unless of course you're an illegal. You can lie, cheat, steal, break any law you want and get a clean slate and a free ride. The same as a traffic ticket my butt.

Mr. Snow, do not expose yourself too much; summer is coming and you can melt.

This "speeding ticket" analogy has been around for a few months now. Just yesterday there was a troll here who used it, and it's been all over the place at FR.

So now, at least, we know for certain that it's pure White House spin.

"If you had a traffic ticket and you paid it, you're not forever a speeder, are you?" White House Press Secretary Tony Snow said in response to questions from The Examiner.

I actually used to think I liked this guy.

Yea, we get a traffic ticket.
Speed some more
Hire an attorney to fix the ticket.
Speed some more
and more
and more
Learn where they like to use radar guns.
Slow down in those areas and gun it after we pass them.
Speed some more
Hit the brakes when we see a cop.
Speed some more
and more
and more
Get another ticket and the whole process starts all over again.

The penalties for speeding are not high enough to discourage some drivers to stop speeding. A speeder is still a speeder even after they get a ticket. The ticket didn't change the nature of the speeder. Same can be said about illegal aliens.

"If you had a traffic ticket and you paid it, you're not forever a speeder, are you?" White House Press Secretary Tony Snow said in response to questions from The Examiner.

"So the fact is, you have paid your debt to society," he added. "And we have come up with a way to make sure that the debt to society gets paid. Then you move forward."

How does the White House say this crap with a straight face? How does a $2,000 fine, REFUNDED by the FIRST EITC, pay a DEBT? A debt that includes illegal presence, no license, no insurance, document fraud, identity theft and tax fraud.

The "traffic ticket" analogy raised eyebrows on Capitol Hill, where many House Republicans regard illegal immigration as a grave crime.

Eyebrows?!? What it RAISED was my ever-lovin' BLOOD PRESSURE!!!!!

"The penalty for a speeding ticket is a fine," he added. "The penalty for being here illegally is being removed from this country. But the president doesn't want illegal aliens to go home."

BINGO!!!

"Here's a more apt analogy," he said. "You get stopped for speeding, and you say to the cop: "Hey listen, you're about to give me a $300 ticket. How about we make it 20 bucks and just call it even?"

Isn't that the way it's SUPPOSED to work?

Snow predicted that House Republicans would eventually drop their opposition to the Senate bill, which passed Thursday.

Karnak the Magnificient he's NOT!!!

The bill, which includes a guest worker program that would grant legal status to aliens, is headed to a conference committee for possible reconciliation with a House bill aimed at beefing up border security.

Care to make a wager, Skippy?

Snow suggested the guest worker program could be sold to even ardent opponents like Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wisconsin, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. "Chairman Sensenbrenner, who's got some real problems with various aspects, has said publicly that the temporary worker program has merit," Snow said.

But your bill AIN'T TEMPORARY!!!

"There are areas in which members of the House are going to agree with the president," he added. "I certainly don't want to be speaking for Chairman Sensenbrenner, but the fact is, you know politics."

You speak for the CFR, Mr. Snowjob, and NOBODY ELSE!

But Sensenbrenner appeared unmoved.

"What's going on now, in calling it a pathway to citizenship or earned legalization, is not honest because it is amnesty," he said at a news conference.

Thank you, Congressman Sensenbrenner! STAY STRONG!!!!

Wow, that's alot of crimes you listed to have hanging over your head. This could be a way to get the to obey the law and conform.

All I know is that with this White House it's a wonder Americans can get any sleep at night.

Originally Posted by LegalUSCitizen

All I know is that with this White House it's a wonder Americans can get any sleep at night.

With "leaders" who say things like this, who sleeps?

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."—Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004