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    WikiLeaks releases some Mexico cables

    WikiLeaks releases some Mexico cables

    Border BoletÃ*n: WikiLeaks releases some Mexico cables (Updated)
    Brady McCombs Arizona Daily Star
    December 2, 2010 3:19 pm

    The El Pais newspapar in Spain has begun to release State Department documents concerning Mexico’s drug war.

    Here are the two stories the newspaper has posted in Spanish:

    • El Gobierno mexicano admite que ha perdido el control de ciertas zonas (English translation: The Mexican government admits it's lost control of certain areas)

    • México: un Ejército dividido incapaz de vencer a los narcos (English translation: Mexico: a divided army is incapable of defeating the narcos)

    There are links throughout these two articles to the documents they refer to, and I'm reading those this afternoon. So far, this one from Oct. 5, 2009 out of Mexico City is the most interesting. It offers insight into what Mexican high-ranking officials think about the drug war and need for help from the U.S.

    The document provides a summary of what was said at a dinner hosted by Mexican officials for visiting Department of Justice leaders from the U.S. The document quotes the undersecretary for governance of Mexico, Geronimo Gutierrez Fernandez, as offering a stark assessment of Mexico’s situation:

    “We have 18 months," he said, "and if we do not produce a tangible success that is recognizable to the Mexican people, it will be difficult to sustain the confrontation into the next administration.

    “He lamented the pervasive, debilitating fear that is so much a part of contemporary Mexican society, where even people in theYucatan, with "European levels of security" are afraid because of the instability in a few distant cities. He expressed a real concern with "losing" certain regions.

    “It is damaging Mexico's international reputation, hurting foreign investment, and leading to a sense of government impotence, Gutierrez said.

    According to the document, Gutierrez also said that, “in retrospect he and other GOM (government of Mexico) officials realize that not enough strategic thought went into Merida in the early phase. There was too much emphasis in the initial planning on equipment, which they now know is slow to arrive and even slower to be of direct utility in the fight against the DTOs.â€
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    US Cable: Mexico feared losing control to narcos

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    MEXICO CITY (AP) — A leaked U.S. State Department cable says Mexican authorities worried in 2009 that they could lose parts of the country to drug traffickers.

    An October 2009 cable from the U.S. Embassy in Mexico City says Undersecretary for the Interior Geronimo Gutierrez Fernandez "expressed a real concern with 'losing' certain regions."

    Gutierrez said the situation was hurting Mexico's reputation at home and abroad and that if President Felipe Calderon didn't have "tangible successes" in his war against cartels, "it will be difficult to sustain the confrontation into the next administration."

    The document was posted online Thursday by the newspaper El Pais of Spain as a growing list of sensitive U.S. government messages were released by WikiLeaks.
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    "If we could turn around Tijuana, Ciudad Juarez, and one other city such as Culiacan, it would solve 60%
    You clean it out of one place and it just moves on to the next.

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    If our selfserving government would shut down the border, really shut it down with the National Guard, wouldn't it help the Mexican Government by starving the cartels out of money?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newmexican
    If our selfserving government would shut down the border, really shut it down with the National Guard, wouldn't it help the Mexican Government by starving the cartels out of money?
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    Calderon has blamed Americans for the drug wars, and in at least the respect of the market in the USA being what is keeping the drug wars going, he is correct.

    The problem is NOT with Mexico, it is with the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.

    They REFUSE to secure the border. As long as we have a physically unsecured border, the drug lords will flourish both in Mexico and the United States. More Americans will die, and the invasion will continue unabated.
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