Thread: Yuma, AZ. Farming Groups Push for Special Worker Visa

redpony353, I am aware ag jobs are hard work at low wages.
Illegal alien wages. Landscaping, construction too
Look at it from my point of view.
There is nothing in our Constitution or Bill of Rights that
Entitles one to receive Assistance from the Government.
If an American unemployed received no unemployment benefit money?
Would they pick fruit to feed themselves, their family, and country?
Same goes with food stamps. And other bloated unsustainable entitlement
social programs. None of which are guaranteed by our constitution.
The same programs illegal aliens prostitute, I fear too many Americans
are becoming addicted to.
The wages and conditions of these jobs will only improve once they are filled by American workers. People, not government have the responsibility and God knows ability to change things. .
Otherwise the illegals and pro-illegals and open border traitors have the
upper hand.
So we give them nothing, because they want everything.
We can fix this, it won't be easy. At this point what is?

Originally Posted by airdale

redpony353, I am aware ag jobs are hard work at low wages.
Illegal alien wages. Landscaping, construction too
Look at it from my point of view.
There is nothing in our Constitution or Bill of Rights that
Entitles one to receive Assistance from the Government.
If an American unemployed received no unemployment benefit money?
Would they pick fruit to feed themselves, their family, and country?
Same goes with food stamps. And other bloated unsustainable entitlement
social programs. None of which are guaranteed by our constitution.
The same programs illegal aliens prostitute, I fear too many Americans
are becoming addicted to.
The wages and conditions of these jobs will only improve once they are filled by American workers. People, not government have the responsibility and God knows ability to change things. .
Otherwise the illegals and pro-illegals and open border traitors have the
upper hand.
So we give them nothing, because they want everything.
We can fix this, it won't be easy. At this point what is?

But those on unemployment are already having a hard time feeding their family. How can you expect them to take a job where they will have even less food? Don't forget that Americans pay tax for these programs, so they have every right to use them when needed.

Yes they would pick fruit to feed their family...certainly. I guess what I am saying is that if farmers are not allowed foreign workers then they will be forced to raise wages thereby giving American workers a job that will actually put at least as much food on the table as unemployment.

I agree with you that the conditions in the field will not change until American workers go and work in the fields and fight for those changes....that is absolutely true. But right now they are between a rock and a hard place. Do they take a job that puts less food on the table? I think it can be solved if farmers are cut off from their slave labor and then they are forced to raise wages if they want their fields worked. As far as the conditions on the fields...that has to be fought for after the fact. And that is a job that the American worker WILL DO. American workers are fighters. They will change those conditions.