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    Immigration: Anchor babies beware

    Immigration: Anchor babies beware

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    RTAmerica — June 14, 2010 — It seems that Arizona is at it again. There is a new immigration law that has been proposed that would deprive the children of illegal immigrants US citizenship, even if they were born in the United States. Critics say that this would be a violation of the 14th amendment of the US constitution, which grants citizenship to anyone born the US.
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    I think BEFORE this invasion... tourists were not considered citizens if they happened to give birth here... I think this started when our government started their betrayal with this INVASION!
    Please help save America for our children and grandchildren... they are counting on us. THEY DESERVE the goodness of AMERICA not to be given to those who are stealing our children's future! ... and a congress who works for THEM!
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    The birthright citizenship for illegal aliens does not come from the 14th amendment it comes from the opinion of Horace Gray attached to the Wong Kim Ark Decision about thirty years later
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    IMO In my opinion, As many Americans as possible should be flooding our Official's mailboxes with requests to end the practice of Birthright Citizenship. It is the ULTIMATE magnet for illegal aliens even surpassing the jobs given by unscrupulous and greedy employers...

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    The main attraction when they come here is the underdeveloped nature of the Latin American consumer credit market. For working here they get a better chance at buying a house and car for their families. The current birthright citizenship is less of a draw. Illegal aliens do receive parity in public child support with Americans for children born here.
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    All Persons Born or Naturalized ...
    The Legacy of US v Wong Kim Ark
    UC Hastings College of the Law Library Summer 2001

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    Wong Kim Ark's success made him a symbolic figure for twentieth-century Asian American activists. San Francisco's Board of Supervisors declared March 28, 1998 "Wong Kim Ark Day" in celebration of the 100th anniversary of Wong's victory.

    In 1995, Professor Gerald L. Neuman, of Columbia University School of Law, testified before the House of Representatives' Subcommittee on Immigration and Claims. He discussed the "subject to the jurisdiction" phrase, using the Wong Kim Ark decision to argue that all people born in the United States are citizens, regardless of their parents' national loyalties.



    1943: The Chinese Exclusion Acts are repealed to allow Chinese people from all classes to immigrate. Chinese people become eligible for naturalization.

    1946: Filipinos and people from the Indian Subcontinent also become eligible for naturalization.

    1952: McCarren-Walter Immigration Act: Each country may send a given number of immigrants each year. However, people of Asian ancestry are counted against the visas given to people from the country of their ancestry, rather than of their birth. For example, a Chinese Cuban person is counted as Chinese, rather than Cuban. All Asians are eligible for naturalization.

    1965: Immigration Act of 1965: The quota system is abolished, and replaced with a system that gives precedence to family members of US residents, refugees, or those with special job skills.


    Section of a cartoon by Steve Benson for the Arizona Republic. August 1993. Reprinted in Barkan, Elliott. And Still They Come: Immigrants and American Society, 1920 to the 1990's.


    Representative Brian Bilbray
    Photo taken from his website. In 1997 [105 H.R. 7] , and 1999 [106 H.R. 73] , United States Representative Brian Bilbray of San Diego proposed bills to deny citizenship at birth to children born in the United States of parents who are not citizens or permanent resident aliens. Both bills died in committee.




    UPDATE: In 2003 [108 H.J. Res. 44] , US Representative Mark Foley of Florida introduced a joint resolution proposing a constitutional amendment to provide that no person born in the United States will be a United States citizen unless a parent is a United States citizen, or is lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the United States, at the time of the birth.

    In the 109th Congress, a multitude of bills and resolutions were introduced in the House to amend the Constitution or the Immigration National Act. Rep. Foley reintroduced a resolution in 2005 [109 H.J. Res. 41] . US Representive Ron Paul of Texas introduced a similar resolution in 2005 [109 H.J. Res 46] . US Representative Nathan Deal of Georgia introduced a bill, Citizenship Refrom Act of 2005 [109 H.R. 698], to deny citizenship at birth to children born in the United States of parents who are not citizens or permanent resident aliens. In that session of Congress, language was also introduced in § 201 of H.R. 3700, § 701 of H.R. 3938, § 322 of H.R. 4313, and title V of S. 2117.

    In 2006, US Senator Charles Schumer questioned Justice Samuel A Alito during his US Supreme Court confirmation hearing on the language of the 14th Amendment . From the San Francisco Chronicle 1/15/2006 . CQ Weekly published an analysis of the legislative and judicial issues (CQ Weekly, 2/13/2006, pg 38.

    In 2007 US Representative Elton Gallegly of California introduced 110 H.R.133 Title: To amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to deny citizenship at birth to children born in the United States of parents who are not citizens or permanent resident aliens.

    For further research: the Congression Research Service report U.S Citizenship of Persons Born in the United States to Alien Parents provides a non-partisan analyis of this issue. The most current update of the report is March 1, 2007.


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    Most illegals here working have their illegal alien spouse and dependent anchor children with them. They may come here to work, but they bring their spouses because of the free prenatal care/hospital deliveries, and the taxpayer funded care and feeding of their children. If the United States did not financially provide for their dependents, most illegals wouldn't be living here with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    The main attraction when they come here is the underdeveloped nature of the Latin American consumer credit market. For working here they get a better chance at buying a house and car for their families. The current birthright citizenship is less of a draw. Illegal aliens do receive parity in public child support with Americans for children born here.
    Mexico is a rich nation, whose rich use America to welfare their poor, so that Mexico's rich can avoid responsibility for helping any of their citizens who are not as elitists as they are.

    Here's only one link about how rich Mexico is, but there are many others that can be searched for:
    http://www.limitstogrowth.org/WEB-text/ ... srich.html


    It goes deeper than that, in that Mexico has one of the riches mineral deposits of the entire earth, which could totally solve the problem of their poor, as they wourld work in helping to develop the mineral areas.

    California in the year 2005 closed approximately 200 hosptials that said they could no longer afford to stay open because of all the illegal alien who paid nothing for their baby births and care - mainly because the hospitals are somehow MANDATED to take care of illegal aliens AHEAD OF Americans, and illegal aliens abuse the hospitals by using them as their main doctor for EVERYONE IN THEIR extended FAMILY.

    A very very old mission (The Los Angeles Mission) had to permanently close more than ten years ago after being around since the 1800's - specifically because they could no longer help America's poor because illegal aliens were using them as their main meal source for their entire families. The mission used to have regular appeals for money where they were funded enough to help, but even that wasn't sufficient with the rampant onslaught of Mexico's ungrateful hordes.

    Americans have got to quit repeating the arguments of the pro-illegal aliens, as if they are truths.

    The fact is that one of the #1 prizes of entering the USA illegally is that with EACH anchor baby, EACH extended FAMILY MEMBER receives their own "lotto windfall of USA tax dollar benefits "for LIFE" - the anchor baby is the legal head of the household (they do not check for blood relations & most anchor babies have only the mother as parent, but the father's extended family can CLAIM their "extended family status" - and it's never questioned).

    Anchor baby tax dollar benefits - also goes to EACH member of the extended family, so they're only going to find work for CASH under the table to keep their FLOOD GATE of USA tax dollar benefits:
    -- welfare - FREE for life.
    -- food stamps - FREE for life.
    -- housing assistance - FREE for life.
    -- education - many times through university - FREE.
    -- use of automobile while seeking work - in some states (but could be more than "some") - FREE (may be limited time frame, but not sure) - the illegal alien lifestyle is based in CONSTANT LIES, so the fact is they do not have to actually be looking for work, because they LIE about everything.
    -- voters rights -- some communities, cities, & states.
    -- when all else fails, there are too many sanctuary churches & communities who provide TOTAL SURVIVAL to keep illegal aliens inside the USA at the expense of the American tax payer, which is funded through the church as a non-profit entity survived - AGAIN - off the USA tax dollars.

    Many Americans who are destitute cannot qualify for any of these benefits, because Americans basically tell the truth AND/OR they are verified to make sure they tell the truth.

    Illegal aliens know that their status is very hard to verify as true or not, plus have a great record of America's government offices basically ignoring them as illegal aliens and then just throwing the money & benefits in their direction to get rid of them.

    When they lie they have more than enough other illegal aliens who are more than willing to also lie on their behalf.


    Quote Originally Posted by hattiecat
    Most illegals here working have their illegal alien spouse and dependent anchor children with them. They may come here to work, but they bring their spouses because of the free prenatal care/hospital deliveries, and the taxpayer funded care and feeding of their children. If the United States did not financially provide for their dependents, most illegals wouldn't be living here with them.
    Read the above list of the benefits that the anchor baby gets for themselves, and their entire extended family - each one of them.

    Chances are that if any workers comes to America on a green card or visa, they soon learn that the USA & some state Govts pretty much fights with the illegals on their behalf, so why be legally inside the USA - like Obama's law suit against Arizona, and many other things for decades?

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    GR I am pressed for time and there are too many errors you made in your post for me to take the time to give an adequate response.
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    Not just Mexican illegals, I bet tourists have been taking advantage of U.S. births for decades now:

    Latest pregnancy stage to fly

    Airlines have different rules regarding the upper limit beyond which they would not allow a pregnant woman to fly. As a general guide, almost all airlines decline to fly women beyond 36 weeks of gestation and for some it is 34 weeks. In the phase between 28 and 36 weeks, most airlines will demand that the passenger bring her doctor’s letter stating that she is fit to fly and that she is unlikely to go into labour within 36 hours.

    Tourist Visas are usually between 3-6 months, right? I wonder how many tourists would bring in their pregnant wives only to have babies in the U.S. and later take advantage of the current fiasco over anchor babies.

    ABCNEWS did a story on this...

    "The number of U.S. births to non-resident mothers rose 53 percent between 2000 and 2006, according to the most recent data from the National Center for Health Statistics. Total births rose 5 percent in the same period."

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/birth-to ... d=10359956

    Comment: "As a Labor and delivery nurse for 21 yrs I have seen it all. In the last year we have started getting women from Egypt, they come with the same man every time. I figure he is making a bundle getting them here to have their anchor babies. They even apply for emergency medicaid to pay their hospital bill. Of course we get them from all over too....just visiting from Mexico,Nigeria,Turkey,Kenya. I say it's time for the citizens to rise up and say we are not going to be the laughing stock of the world anymore!!!!!!!!! I don't care if it is in the constitution, it's time for a change before we are no longer a country."

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