Thread: Ronald Reagan on Socialized Medicine

This is the entire speech, the end is the clincher.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiyfG4WMxA0

I didn't listen to his speech. Frankly, I don't care if Reagan was against socialized medicine or not.

Sorry newmexican, sorry to any Reagan fans, I know he is a hero to many conservatives, but some of our most severe problems now can be traced back to Reagan's 1986 amnesty, and the false promises to the American people that it would be a "one-time" amnesty with greatly increased border security. A bunch of hooey. Many of us knew at the time it was BS. If the Reagan Admin actually believed what they were saying was true, they were stupid; if they didn't believe what they were claiming, they were lying.

builditnow wrote:

I didn't listen to his speech. Frankly, I don't care if Reagan was against socialized medicine or not.

You are a little quick to judge...This speech, is actually a recording for Operation Tea Cup and was made long before he was president.

The speech lists the previous attempts by Socialist politicians to implement socialized medicine and the reasoning that socialized medicine is the key to controling everything else.

It is in audio because it is 50 years old.

Originally Posted by Newmexican

builditnow wrote:

I didn't listen to his speech. Frankly, I don't care if Reagan was against socialized medicine or not.

You are a little quick to judge...This speech, is actually a recording for Operation Tea Cup and was made long before he was president.

The speech lists the previous attempts by Socialist politicians to implement socialized medicine and the reasoning that socialized medicine is the key to controling everything else.

It is in audio because it is 50 years old.

What do you mean I was quick to judge? I was quick to judge that Reagan was very likely against socialized medicine. Thats great, so am I. I'm well aware that Reagan was supposedly a conservative.

But the problems he caused with his 1986 amnesty just so he could pander to his big business globalist buddies, small businesses who wanted cheap labor, and potential Hispanic voters, override much of the other positive things he did in my eyes. I do NOT believe in Capitalism and free markets at ANY price to anyone else or to the country that allows them the freedom to prosper in the first place.

This had NOTHING to do with anything that Reagan did after he became President.
It was part of a campaign against socialized medicine in 1961. I posted it because the same arguments used then are being used now. I found it interesting. If you don't, then don't watch it - simple -

Sorry newmexican, sorry to any Reagan fans, I know he is a hero to many conservatives,

but some of our most severe problems now can be traced back to Reagan's 1986 amnesty

Originally Posted by Newmexican

This had NOTHING to do with anything that Reagan did after he became President.
It was part of a campaign against socialized medicine in 1961. I posted it because the same arguments used then are being used now. I found it interesting. If you don't, then don't watch it - simple -

Sorry newmexican, sorry to any Reagan fans, I know he is a hero to many conservatives,

but some of our most severe problems now can be traced back to Reagan's 1986 amnesty

newmexican - I think you might be missing my point here. When you present a post like that, -- i.e. here is Ronald Reagan on socialized medicine, nothing more need be said, it is Ronald Reagan -- it does imply a certain, large, degree of respect and admiration for the person. Thats fine if you feel that way, but if you post a topic like that, anyone else here has the right to respond. I am NOT apathetic about this, if I was I would not have posted a comment at all. I'm not apathetic about Reagan, I'm angry about Reagan and what he did.

My comment was not an attack on you for your post, it WAS an attack on Reagan who has at times been glorified by some conservatives. This is fine if they are pro-open borders conservatives. I think those against the illegal invasion sometimes forget where it started, which was to a large degree with the Reagan Admin.