Results 1 to 7 of 7
Like Tree2Likes
  • 1 Post By nntrixie
  • 1 Post By nntrixie

Thread: 2 Minutes Show That Dems Celebrated Getting Chemical Weapons Out of Syria Too Early

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

  1. #1
    Super Moderator Newmexican's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Heart of Dixie
    Posts
    34,423

    2 Minutes Show That Dems Celebrated Getting Chemical Weapons Out of Syria Too Early

    2 Minutes Show That Dems Celebrated Getting Chemical Weapons Out of Syria Too Early

    Reports of Syria removing its chemical weapons were greatly exaggerated?

    BY: Andrew Kugle
    April 5, 2017 6:19 pm

    Reports on Tuesday revealed Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his allies again targeted civilians in a deadly attack where chemical weapons were used. The attack was one of the worst chemical attacks in the six-year Syrian civil war.

    Rewind back to the fall of 2013, when the Obama administration was working with Syrian and Russian leaders to ensure that Assad's stockpile of chemical weapons would be turned over and destroyed. A deal was reached, and the Obama administration and fellow Democrats applauded the achievement. The agreement was struck a year after former President Barack Obama drew his now infamous "red line" in August 2012, when he threatened military action against Assad if he used chemical weapons.

    For several years, Democratic lawmakers and Obama administration officials touted that Syria turned over "100 percent" of its chemical weapon stockpile.

    "It turns out we are getting chemical weapons out of Syria without initiating a strike," Obama said.

    "We struck a deal where we got a hundred percent of the chemical weapons out," then-Secretary of State John Kerry said.
    The Obama White House even tweeted out a statement promoting its achievement.



    Follow

    White House Archived
    @ObamaWhiteHouse


    President Obama on eliminating the Syrian regime's “most lethal declared chemical weapons” → http://go.wh.gov/ZRP2X8
    5:14 PM - 18 Aug 2014

    In May 2015, Bloomberg reported that Assad used chemical weapons after the Obama administration declared Syria had turned over its entire stockpile. Obama dismissed the report and said chlorine is not "historically" considered a chemical weapon–despite chlorine gas being one of the world's first chemicals weaponized for modern warfare.

    After the report, Obama administration officials continued to say that Syria turned over all of its chemical weapons.

    Then-White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest went on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" and said four times that Assad did not have a chemical weapons stockpile.

    "Right now, Bashar al-Assad doesn't have a declared chemical weapon stockpile," Earnest said in September 2015.

    Before leaving office, Obama was asked in a "60 Minutes" interview if he would have done things differently when it came to Syria.

    "Would you take it back?" Steve Kroft asked Obama, referring to the red-line comment.

    "I would have, I think, made a bigger mistake if I had said, ‘Eh, chemical weapons. That doesn't really change my calculus.' I think it was important for me as president of the United States to send a message that in fact there is something different about chemical weapons," Obama said. "And, regardless of how it ended up playing, I think–in the Beltway, what is true is Assad got rid of his chemical weapons."
    http://freebeacon.com/national-secur...ria-way-early/

    Support our FIGHT AGAINST illegal immigration & Amnesty by joining our E-mail Alerts at http://eepurl.com/cktGTn

  2. #2
    Super Moderator Newmexican's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Heart of Dixie
    Posts
    34,423
    Politifacts caught again...

    PolitiFact Retracts ‘Mostly True’ Ruling That U.S. Removed ‘100 Percent’ of Syria’s Chemical Weapons

    'Subsequent events have proved John Kerry wrong'

    John Kerry / Getty Images


    BY: Alex Griswold
    April 6, 2017 10:56 am

    Fact-checking website PolitiFact on Wednesday retracted a 2014 article that found it "Mostly True" the Obama administration helped broker a deal that successfully removed "100 percent" of chemical weapons from Syria.

    "We struck a deal where we got 100 percent of the chemical weapons out," then-Secretary of State John Kerry said on NBC's "Meet the Press" in July 2014. Kerry was referring to a deal the U.S. and Russia struck in September 2013 in which the Russians agreed to help confiscate and then destroy Syria's entire chemical weapons stockpile.

    When making its ruling, PolitiFact cited a statement from Ahmet Üzümcü, director general of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons.

    "The last of the remaining chemicals identified for removal from Syria were loaded this afternoon aboard the Danish ship Ark Futura," Üzümcü said in June 2014.

    In the end, PolitiFact called Kerry's claim "Mostly True" because there were still discrepancies between how many chemical weapons Syria claimed to have and how many outside observers claimed the country had.
    "There are still 12 former chemical weapon production facilities which need to be destroyed," one human rights worker told the site.

    Nearly three years after Kerry's comment, a chemical weapons attack devastated a rebel-controlled village in northern Syria, killing somewhere between 70 and 100 noncombatants, including dozens of children. The United States has fingered Syrian President Bashar al-Assad as the perpetrator of the attack.

    The next day, PolitiFact pulled its earlier fact-check "because we now have many unanswered questions."

    "We don't know key details about the reported chemical attack in Syria on April 4, 2017, but it raises two clear possibilities: Either Syria never fully complied with its 2013 promise to reveal all of its chemical weapons; or it did, but then converted otherwise non-lethal chemicals to military uses," the site wrote.

    "One way or another, subsequent events have proved Kerry wrong," PolitiFact concluded.

    http://freebeacon.com/national-secur...mical-weapons/


    Support our FIGHT AGAINST illegal immigration & Amnesty by joining our E-mail Alerts at http://eepurl.com/cktGTn

  3. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    7,377
    Chemical weapons are a horror.

    Again, are these people any more dead from chemical weapons than from bombings?

    Also, might it be if we hadn't stirred up trouble, in that part of the world - Syria wouldn't be at war? We may very well be responsible for the war in Syria - it wouldn't be the first time.

    This country armed some faction over there. I seem to remember a discussion of they didn't know which side to arm?


    We should stay out of other countries' business. It is not our place - not in any shape, form or fashion. We certainly shouldn't be involved if we aren't sure which side we are on -

    This chemical weapons thing has been used as an excuse for some very, very deplorable actions on the part of this government.

    We are told someone did this awful thing - our media tells us. Think about it, look at what our media has been making up since Pres. Trump became a real contender - lies, lies, and more lies.

    The American people don't have a clue what is going on in Syria, why we are involved in any way.
    Judy likes this.

  4. #4
    Senior Member Judy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    45,919
    These people sucked in air from the airstrike against the munitions factory that stored chemicals in there of some type. The blast from the bomb explosions will themselves make you sick. This is all just another hoax just like the hoaxes of the Arab Spring in Egypt and Libya.
    Support our FIGHT AGAINST illegal immigration & Amnesty by joining our E-mail Alerts at http://eepurl.com/cktGTn

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    7,377
    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    These people sucked in air from the airstrike against the munitions factory that stored chemicals in there of some type. The blast from the bomb explosions will themselves make you sick. This is all just another hoax just like the hoaxes of the Arab Spring in Egypt and Libya.
    That is a good possibility - but as the man said, 'Don't let a good crisis go to waste'. In other words, lie and spin it to our benefit.

    Dance on the graves -
    Judy likes this.

  6. #6
    Senior Member Judy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    45,919
    That's exactly what this is. I hope there is some valuable underlying strategy and the "babies" thing was just the excuse for it. But damn if I know what it is at this point.
    Last edited by Judy; 04-06-2017 at 11:35 PM.
    Support our FIGHT AGAINST illegal immigration & Amnesty by joining our E-mail Alerts at http://eepurl.com/cktGTn

  7. #7
    Senior Member Judy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    45,919
    Okay, the reason is now out from a "senior white house official'. It was to send a message to Iran and North Korea that if provoked, the US will act.
    Support our FIGHT AGAINST illegal immigration & Amnesty by joining our E-mail Alerts at http://eepurl.com/cktGTn

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 09-13-2013, 08:51 PM
  2. Text of U.S. Assessment on Syria’s Use of Chemical Weapons
    By JohnDoe2 in forum General Discussion
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 09-01-2013, 05:51 PM
  3. Should U.S. strike Syria for ( allegedly) using chemical weapons?
    By AirborneSapper7 in forum General Discussion
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 08-31-2013, 09:44 AM
  4. Replies: 1
    Last Post: 08-28-2013, 06:49 PM
  5. Syria Chemical Weapons Came From CIA Through Turkey
    By AirborneSapper7 in forum Other Topics News and Issues
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 05-08-2013, 02:03 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •