Thread: 7 Answers to 7 Questions About the Nevada Rancher Situation from The Blaze

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People need to quit fighting over Cliven Bundy.....good grief people...it is so obvious what is going on with him....he has ALOT wrong with him, to continue to act as if he is some sanctimonious victim is RIDICULOUS. The comments he made were racist and to say they might be better off if they were still in slavery was outrageous...or is he so stupid he does not know what horrific deeds were done to slaves...or is he dazzled by his own bs and thinks everyone will agree with him no matter what he says AND about the other fiasco.... He is in the wrong ...the government is in the wrong....2 wrongs do not make a right....get behind something you can do something about and attacking Glenn Beck because he is noticing there is something amiss with Bundy looks pretty ridiculous as well....since it is obvious something is amiss with Bundy. If you want to get er done join others in your state who are trying to get public land back into the control of the states. Bitching, moaning and pointing fingers is not going to get anything constructive done.

. . . It’s $1.35 per month, per cow. That’s the BLM grazing fee Cliven Bundy refuses to pay. . .


. . . The average grazing fee on private land in the West is $16.80 per month according to the Congressional Research Service. . .

Grazing permits are costly food stamps for cattle. . .

http://www.alipac.us/f9/cliven-bundy...cowboy-301702/

I know JD, it so clear what is going on I am amazed that there are people that do NOT SEE IT. He entered a contract with the feds to graze his cows on public land for next to nothing ....stopped paying and is belly aching that the government wants to get paid....I personally know ranchers that are thrilled to pay their grazing fees so they get the extra acreage to grow their herd larger. There are thousands of ranchers who ARE NOT COMING to Bundys aid because they know they have a good deal with grazing fees and they TOO think Bundy is a welfare cowboy. BTW it was reported that by grazing on Public lands Bundy was able to grow his herd from 50 to 900.

Heard on Fox this morning that they thought they should have found out who Bundy was before trying to make him into a folk hero. I agree. People need to know who they are supporting before getting so gung-ho. He owes grazing fees for years on a contract he signed with federal government and after he broke contract continued to have his cows graze AND he stood before a group of people and made ignorant and racist statements.....those facts CAN be proven and the pickle he is in he has made for himself. For others to jump in there a defend someone who made his own chaos is foolish IMO. Want to change things CHANGE THE LAW.

Who’s Done What on Federal Land Transfer?

By: Carl Graham
One state is an anomaly. Two states are interesting. Three states make a movement. So, do we have a movement on Western states getting some of our lands back?
Not yet. But it’s moving. Here’s a quick summary of legislation in several Rocky Mountain states that either calls on or studies whether to call on the federal government to return selected lands back to the states.
Utah is leading the pack, with legislation demanding that the federal government keep its statehood promise and setting up a body to look at the issues that would surround such a complicated event.

• HB 142 (2013) Tasks the Governor’s Public Lands Policy Coordinating Office to conduct a study and economic analysis of the transfer of certain federal lands to state ownership.
• HB 148 (2012) Demands the transfer of federal public lands (strictly defined omitting many) to the state by 12/31/2014. It also tasks the state’s Constitutional Defense Council to create a Public Lands Commission that will administer the transfer and address how to manage transferred lands.
• HJR 3 (2012) Puts most of the language of the two actionable bills into a resolution.

Nevada is taking a novel approach by tasking County Commissioners to study the issue and come up with recommendations.

• AB 227 (2013) Creates the Nevada Land Management Implementation Committee consisting of one representative from each county to conduct a study addressing the transfer of public lands in NV from the federal government to the state. The committee reports 2/1/2015, and the bill calls for a transfer decision target date of 6/30/2015.

Montana created an interim committee of legislators to evaluate lands held by the Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management in the state.

• SJ 15 (2013) Creates the interim committee and tasks it to identify concerns and risks with federal land management policies in the state. The committee report is due 9/15/2014.

Wyoming also has a study bill.

• HB 228 (2013) Creates a task force to investigate possible legal recourse to compel the federal government to relinquish ownership and management of federal lands. The task force report was due 11/1/2013.

Idaho has another study bill.

• HCR 21 (2013) Forms an interim committee to study the process of the state acquiring title and control of federal lands. The committee will report to the 2015 legislature.
• HCR 22 (2013) calls on Idaho’s congressional delegation to work with the state in returning selected federal lands to the state. It mirrors in many ways Utah’s HB 148, but as a resolution.

Arizona had a lands transfer bill in 2012 but the Governor vetoed it.

• SB 1332 (2012) Demanded select federal holding be transferred to state control by 12/31/2014 and created a Public Lands Board of Review to manage the transition. The Governor vetoed the entire bill after it passed both chambers.

So what’s on tap for 2014? We’re in the process of tracking that down state by state and will post it here.

http://endfedaddiction.org/federal-land-transfer/

http://www.alipac.us/f9/police-inves...y-reid-301802/

OPINION

Donald Sterling, Cliven Bundy and the truth about racism

By Rabbi Brad Hirschfield
Published April 28, 2014




When you picture a racist, what images spring to mind? I ask, because in a single week, my own answer to that question has come to include to images of otherwise seemingly innocent types, and in that shift, lay important cautions regarding identifying and combating racism.

A racist? I would quickly picture someone in the kind of Nazi or KKK uniforms favored by F. Glenn Miller, who is accused in the murder of 3 people on the campuses of the Kansas City Jewish community. And without equating their words to his murderous deeds, I now add the image of these two men, Cliven Bundy and Donald Sterling:I want to repeat, no moral equivalence can be drawn between murder and ugly words, but there are lessons to be learned about racial hate, and maybe even learned better, when they come from less obvious offenders.

You don’t have to fit someone’s stereotype of what a racist is, to be racist.
In the last week we have heard some pretty ugly words from a normal looking cattleman who has spent an otherwise normal life tending his cows and caring for his family, and just yesterday, from a successful businessman honored by the NAACP in 2008 with a President’s Award, and again in 2009 with their Lifetime Achievement Award.

That we need to be vigilant in the face of Brown Shirts and guys dressed in white robes and pointy hats is pretty obvious. Less obvious for many, is that racism infects the hearts and informs the minds of all sorts of people. You don’t have to fit someone’s stereotype of what a racist is, to be racist.

There are white racists who come from all parts of the country, vote for different parties, and inhabit all sectors of the socio-economic spectrum. There are white racists, black racists, and brown racists. There are Christian, Jewish, Muslim and Hindu racists, just to name a few traditions. There are also atheist and agonistic racists.

While we are often good at identifying the racists who don’t look like us, we are less good – dare I say less willing – to identifying the racists who dwell most closely to us, and look most like we do. That’s the real lesson that we can all learn from Donald Sterling and Cliven Bundy – each admired men within their respected worlds, and each guilty of hate, even if they themselves don’t realize it.

Of course, all decent people should decry the hatred expressed by both Bundy and Sterling. And the more compassionate among us will also try and understand the fear and generational issues related to their words. The real work however begins not when we look outward, but when we look inward – at ourselves, at our own communities, etc.

Just as neither Bundy nor Sterling is the same as Miller, we need not be the same as Bundy and Sterling to ask where we harbor hates and fears of our own.

What tough questions should be asking of ourselves, of the people who look like us, vote like us, pray like us etc, whatever “us” that happens to be?

That's the real front line in the fight against racial hatred and that is where I want to be. Care to join me?
Rabbi Brad Hirschfield is the author of "You Don’t Have to Be Wrong for Me to Be Right: Finding Faith Without Fanaticism," and president of Clal-The National Jewish Center for Learning and Leadership.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/...-about-racism/

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