Thread: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

Standoff at Nevada Ranch Drags On


‘The feelings run very high’





Government helicopters circle the Bundy ranch / Cliven and Carol Bundy



BY: Elizabeth Harrington
April 10, 2014 10:30 am
A Nevada state senator is worried about the possibility of violence as the standoff between rancher Cliven Bundy’s family and heavily armed federal agents continued.


As previously reported by the Washington Free Beacon, an estimated 200 armed officials have surrounded the Bundy ranch, providing security for contractors to remove 908 cows designated by the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) as “trespass cattle.”
Carol Bundy told the Free Beacon on Wednesday afternoon that there had been “no incidents, yet.”
Nevada state Sen. Peter Goicoechea (R.) expressed concern that the federal government was exacerbating the problem.
“This morning was the first I actually heard that there were military personnel there,” said Goicoechea, who is also a public land rancher. “If, in fact, we actually have military personnel down in that area because that equates to martial law.”
Goicoechea brought up the questionable handling of a previous case by armed BLM officers in the state two months ago.
“We have always challenged that BLM Rangers have no jurisdiction or police powers in the state of Nevada,” Goicoechea said. “They typically are an unsworn officer. And we had the case where a young man was shot a couple months ago at Red Rock by two BLM Rangers.”
The BLM officers shot and killed an unarmed young man in February near the Red Rock National Conservation Area, just outside of Las Vegas.
A graphic video documented the encounter. BLM officers fought with the suspect, ultimately shooting him seven times when he attempted to get into a Nevada Highway Patrol vehicle and remove an AR-15 rifle from a locked compartment, according to the Las Vegas Review Journal.
“He was definitely disoriented, he was unarmed, and they were questioning him, along the state highway,” Goicoechea said. “And if you press for this they’ll tell you it’s still under investigation.”
“They shot him seven times, killed him dead,” he said. “They said, well, they thought he was trying to get—there was a highway patrolman there, and they said it looked like he was trying to get into the highway patrolman vehicle, and we were afraid he’d get the shotgun out of there. So they shot him. They killed him.”
BLM officials arrested Dave Bundy, Cliven’s son, on Sunday, for taking pictures along a blocked of area on state highway 170. Carol Bundy said the officials “bruised him up pretty good,” and held him for 24 hours.
Goicoechea said this is not the first impoundment of cattle in the state, but typically county governments have handled public safety. A former county commissioner, Goicoechea said he never allowed for any roads to be closed.
“Don’t get me wrong, [impoundments] aren’t without incident,” he said. “The feelings run very high.”
Like the Bundys, Goicoechea’s family has ranched in Nevada for more than a century.
“Those of us that have spent generations here, my granddaughters are still pounding cows down the same trails my grandfather did,” he said. “We’ve been here well over 100 years, and livestock is our living, and by hook or crook we’ve ended up in some kind of politics.”
The dispute between the Bundys and the BLM revolves around unpaid “grazing fees” and public land that has been closed off to protect the “desert tortoise.”
The BLM designated 186,909 acres of the Gold Butte off limits for the “critical desert tortoise” population in 1998. Bundy had already lost his grazing permit five years earlier for refusing to pay fees for the land, which his family has ranched since the 1870s.
Since the 1800s ranchers have taken up homesteads and used land for their cattle herds. Ranchers abided by the “Three-mile Water Law,” which entitled them to grazing rights for land three miles around water the rancher owned or maintained. Disputes were settled amongst the ranchers themselves.
“There have been people shot through the last century over grazing disputes,” Goicoechea said. “There’s no doubt about it.”
Until 1934, disagreements over the land were not adjudicated. The “Taylor Grazing Act,” signed by President Franklin Roosevelt, set up districts for grazing on public land, and issued permits to ranchers for a more orderly process.
However, those permits for the majority of Clark County—including the permit for the Bundy Ranch—were transferred in 1998 to the Habitat Conservation Plan to protect the desert tortoise.
The tortoise is protected under the Endangered Species Act. However, Goicoechea says they don’t need any protecting, citing a recently passed Nevada regulation that imposed a one tortoise limit per person to “reduce the overbreeding and proliferation of unwanted pet desert tortoises.”
“People will get two or three of ‘em and all of a sudden they come home one night and you’ve got 15 of ‘em,” Goicoechea said. “I guess they’re diggy little boogers, they go under sidewalks and patios. So tortoises were causing damage in their neighbors’ yards.”
“We’re talking about an endangered species that in fact went out there and removed all these people off the public lands under the intent of protecting that desert tortoise,” he said.
“They have adapted, and they’re doing very well.”
The Fish and Wildlife Service lists the species as “threatened.”



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Last Man Standing

Rancher: armed feds are surrounding my farm





Government vehicles and personnel outside of the Bundy ranch / Cliven and Carol Bundy



BY: Elizabeth Harrington
April 8, 2014 7:34 pm
A two-decades-old battle between a Nevada rancher and the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) has resulted in officials armed with machine guns surrounding the ranch and forcibly removing the owner’s cattle, according to the rancher’s family.
Cliven Bundy, the last rancher in Clark County, Nev., has been fighting a “one-man range war” since 1993, when he decided to take a stand against the agency, refusing to pay fees for the right to graze on a ranch run by his family for centuries.
After years of court battles, the BLM secured a federal court order to have Bundy’s “trespass cattle” forcibly removed with heavy artillery, the family said.
“The battle’s been going on for 20 years,” Bundy told theWashington Free Beacon. “What’s happened the last two weeks, the United States government, the bureaus are getting this army together and they’re going to get their job done and they’re going to prove two things. They’re going to prove they can do it, and they’re gonna prove that they have unlimited power, and that they control the policing power over this public land. That’s what they’re trying to prove.”
Bundy said the government has brought everything but tanks and rocket launchers.
Armed men outside the Bundy ranch / Cliven and Carol Bundy

“They’re carrying the same things a soldier would,” he said. “Automatic weapons, sniper rifles, top communication, top surveillance equipment, lots of vehicles. It’s heavy soldier type equipment.”
His wife, Carol Bundy, said that roughly 200 armed agents from the BLM and FBI are stationed around their land, located about 75 miles outside of Las Vegas. Helicopters circle the premises, and the airspace and nearby roads remain blocked.
“We’re surrounded,” Carol Bundy said. “We’re estimating that there are over 200 armed BLM, FBI. We’ve got surveillance cameras at our house, they’re probably listening to me talk to you right now.”
A National Park Service spokesman denied there were armed guards rounding up the cattle in a conference call on Tuesday. However, she confirmed that there was “security” in place, citing threats to the contractors who are removing the cattle.
“Contractors are here and they are in place to round-up the cattle and to bring them to the impound area,” Christie Vanover said. “As for security, there [is] security in place, but that is merely to protect the contractors.”
“As you know, we have received threats and the contractors have received threats,” Vanover said. “Our personnel here and throughout the park service and throughout the BLM have received threats, as well. So security is in place to merely protect the contractors so that we can complete this operation.”
As of Monday, officials have seized 234 of Bundy’s 908 cattle. Impounding the cattle alone could cost the government as much as $3 million.
“They just brought a load down today,” she said. “They kind of harass us as well. When we leave they follow us.”
This afternoon eight helicopters surrounded the family after they began taking pictures, according to Bundy’s daughter, Bailey. Their son, Dave Bundy, was arrested for taking pictures on state road 170, which has been closed, and is being held by BLM.
Government helicopters circle the Bundy ranch / Cliven and Carol Bundy

The BLM said they took Dave Bundy into custody following his “failure to comply with multiple requests by BLM law enforcement to leave the temporary closure area on public lands.”
Carol Bundy said five officials took Dave and “threw him on the ground.”
“One put his knee on his head, the other put his boot on his head and pushed him into the gravel,” she said. “He’s got quite a bruised head. Just bruised him up pretty good.”
Environmentalists are praising the government’s forceful actions, which are being taken to protect the “desert tortoise.”
“We’re heartened and thankful that the agencies are finally living up to their stewardship duty,” said Rob Mrowka, a Nevada-based senior scientist with the Center for Biological Diversity. “The Gold Butte area has been officially designated as critical habitat for threatened tortoises—meaning the area is essential to their long-term survival as a species.”
“[Cliven] Bundy has long falsely believed that Gold Butte is his ranch,” added Terri Robertson, president of Friends of Sloan Canyon.
The BLM designated 186,909 acres of the Gold Butte off-limits for the “critical desert tortoise” population in 1998. Bundy had already lost his grazing permit five years earlier for refusing to pay fees for the land, which his family has ranched since the 1870s.
The “federal grazing fee” is $1.35 per “Animal Unit Month,” or the amount of forage needed per animal, each month. Bundy said he owes roughly $300,000 in back fees, while the BLM asserts he owes over $1 million. The BLM defended the removal because Bundy did not “voluntarily” give up his cattle.
“We’ve tried to do this through the legal and we’ve tried to do it through the political, and what we’re at right now, I guess we’re going to have to try to stand,” Cliven Bundy said. “We the people have to stand on the ground and get our state sovereignty back, and also take some liberty and freedoms back to where we have at least access to this land.”
“The story is a lot about the cattle, but the bigger story is about our loss of freedom,” Carol Bundy added. “They have come and taken over this whole corner of the county. They’ve taken over policing power, they’ve taken over our freedom, and they’re stealing cattle.”
“And our sheriff says he just doesn’t have authority, our governor says he doesn’t have authority, and we’re saying, why are we a state?”
“I’m a producer,” Cliven Bundy said. “I produce edible commodity from the desert forage, and all of these things are governed under state law. So, in other words, this type of government has eliminated all of our state law, eliminated our state sovereignty, and has took control over our public lands and even took control over our Clark County sheriff. They’ve taken the whole county over. The whole state, almost.”
“This is just about power of the government,” Carol Bundy said.
Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval (R.) voiced his concern about so-called “First Amendment Areas,” designated locations set up by the BLM where citizens can protest the removal.
“Most disturbing to me is the BLM’s establishment of a ‘First Amendment Area’ that tramples upon Nevadans’ fundamental rights under the U.S. Constitution,” he said in a statement Tuesday.
“To that end, I have advised the BLM that such conduct is offensive to me and countless others and that the ‘First Amendment Area’ should be dismantled immediately,” he said. “No cow justifies the atmosphere of intimidation which currently exists nor the limitation of constitutional rights that are sacred to all Nevadans. The BLM needs to reconsider its approach to this matter and act accordingly.”
Sandoval also said his office has received numerous complaints about the BLM’s conduct, including road closures and “other disturbances.”
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You hear very little about this on the local stations it usually a very quick mention and they make it sound as though the Rancher is wrong .. Sheriff Gillespie is also retiring very soon. Our Governor Sandoval accused the Bureau of Land Management of violating Nevadan's Constitutional rights of protest..They are rounding up this mans cattle for grazing on the BLM land he said the BLM is creating an "atmosphere of intimidation.".. The Review Journal has a good size article on it this morning... I also have felt for a long time that Sheriff Gillespie does not follow "the Oath of Office" he vowed to take....



Sandoval chastises BLM for creating ‘atmosphere of intimidation’ in cattle roundup

• By LAURA MYERS LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
• Apr 8 2014 - 7:10pm
• 333 Comments

Gov. Brian Sandoval on Tuesday accused the Bureau of Land Management of violating Nevadans’ constitutional rights to protest a BLM roundup of cattle on federal land and slammed the agency for creating an “atmosphere of intimidation.”

By LAURA MYERS
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL


Gov. Brian Sandoval on Tuesday accused the Bureau of Land Management of violating Nevadans’ constitutional rights to protest a BLM roundup of cattle on federal land and slammed the agency for creating an “atmosphere of intimidation.”
Sandoval called on the BLM to dismantle a so-called “First Amendment Area” the agency designated to allow demonstrators to protest the gathering of rancher Cliven Bundy’s 500 head of cattle. The federal government is rounding up the cattle around Bunkerville because Bundy has refused for 20 years to pay grazing fees.
“Due to the roundup by the BLM, my office has received numerous complaints of BLM conduct, road closures and other disturbances,” Sandoval said in a statement. “I have recently met with state legislators, county officials and concerned citizens to listen to their concerns.”
“I have expressed those concerns directly to the BLM,” he added. “Most disturbing to me is the BLM’s establishment of a ‘First Amendment Area’ that tramples upon Nevadans’ fundamental rights under the U.S. Constitution.”
A former federal judge, Sandoval said he told the agency “that such conduct is offensive to me and countless others and that the ‘First Amendment Area’ should be dismantled immediately.”
“No cow justifies the atmosphere of intimidation which currently exists nor the limitation of constitutional rights that are sacred to all Nevadans,” the Republican governor said. “The BLM needs to reconsider its approach to this matter and act accordingly.”
The BLM didn’t immediately respond to Sandoval’s criticisms. Agency spokeswoman Kirsten Cannon said the BLM and the National Park Service would address his statement during a planned Wednesday conference call with media.
But Park Service spokeswoman Christie Vanover said Tuesday the First Amendment zones were created to promote free speech and not be a burden.
“While anybody can express their free speech anytime on open public lands in accordance with the codes and ordinances that exist, there are temporary closures of some of the public lands related to this impound operation and those are in place for public safety,” she said.
On Sunday, Bundy’s son, Dave, was arrested during the roundup on public land 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas. The 37-year-old said heavily armed federal agents roughed him up and arrested him for exercising his constitutional rights on a state highway in northeast Clark County. He was released on Monday.
“They got on their loudspeaker and said that everyone needed to leave,” Dave Bundy said Monday, explaining he was taking photos and protesting peacefully at the time. “I stood there and continued to express my First Amendment right to protest, and they approached me and said that if I didn’t leave, they’d arrest me.”
Bundy was cited on misdemeanor charges of “refusing to disperse” and resisting arrest, according to the Nevada U.S. attorney’s office. The BLM’s Cannon said Bundy was taken into custody to “protect public safety and maintain the peace.”
“The Bureau of Land Management and National Park Service support the public’s right to express opinions peacefully and lawfully. However, if an individual threatens, intimidates or assaults another individual or impedes the impoundment, they may be arrested in accordance with local, state or Federal laws,” Cannon said in a statement Monday.
On Tuesday, the BLM and Park Service said 277 cows have been corralled since Saturday from a 1,200-square-mile area closed to the public for the operation. The roundup could cost the federal government at least $1 million, according to government contracting records reviewed by the Las Vegas Review-Journal.
The BLM said Bundy has racked up more than $1.1 million in unpaid grazing fees while losing federal court cases on the matter. Rangers contend his cattle also are treading on protected habitat of the endangered desert tortoise.
Reporters Henry Brean and Sean Whaley and the Associated Press contributed to this report. Contact Laura Myers at lmyers@reviewjournal.com or 702-387-2919. Find her on Twitter: @lmyerslvrj.

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1boyvegas1 • 3 minutes ago

Sounds like BLM is over-staffed and has nothing better to do. The government should consider saving money by laying-off power-hungry BLM employees, not school teachers.

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Jo Se • 11 minutes ago

God Bless the Governor for his brave stance. The people of Nevada need to back him.

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Antonio Da Silva • 22 minutes ago

So the BLM said you're charged with threatening Tortoise. Then without trial said ok you're guilty. The said pay us 1 million dollars so you can let your cows eat?

That makes no sense. Also if Bundy didn't disperse, and then was arrested, why charge him with resisting arrest? He just didn't leave, seems to me like he went peacefully so why the resisting charge?

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Rothbard Fanatatic Antonio Da Silva • 16 minutes ago

Resisting arrest is the go to catch all when the thugs have nothing else to charge a person with. They've been doing it for decades. The odd thing here that rarely gets mentioned is Bundy tried to pay. The federal office sent his check back uncashed.
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Mr. Happy Rothbard Fanatatic • 7 minutes ago

I haven't heard that yet, Rothbard. If he didn't send a check, then I consider him a moocher, but if he did, then that is definitely on the Feds. What is your source?
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s4141 • 30 minutes ago

Where was this outrage when the news first reported of the impending round-up? Why did he wait until the round-up was already in progress? Grandstanding ,he is. He should have told the BLM to stay out of Nevada and sent the Highway Patrol out there to keep the BLM officials away.

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Rothbard Fanatatic • 30 minutes ago

Good first step for the RINO Sandoval. Now he needs to take another and send in the state troopers to guard Nevadans from the federal thugs and to dismantle the unfree speech zones. Don't leave it up the criminal federal agents to do it. They wont. The step after that is to send in the Nevadan Guard to remove the federal agents from Nevadan soil. Last step, start the political process for secession from the federal government. It has nothing we need or want. It takes far more than ol' Reid manages to get back to Nevada. Why remain in the union?

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trehar • an hour ago

Bundy is a nut job who has broken the law, lost in court over and over, and owes US 1.1 million. His cattle should be rounded up. It should have been done years ago. Everything he owns will probably be seized to pay his ever increasing bill and whose fault will that be? Sadly, crazy old Bundy himself. The dusty old fart should have ridden off into the sunset with all of his wives in tow long ago. The governor knows what is right. I'm sure he remembers that "free speech zones" were born during George W. Bush's tenure to keep protesters blocks and sometimes even a mile or more away from his events. He's just bowing to the right-wing hypocritical pressure he's feeling and trying to placate the most extreme portion of his party. Most politicians, I guess, are just politicians in the end.

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rusty57 • an hour ago

The proliferation of federal agencies with armed agents is one of the most worrisome aspects of the growth in government. Just last summer the EPA carried out an armed raid on a mine in Alaska to enforce the Clean Water Act — a bit of government intimidation that residents say was totally unnecessary:
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014...

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Vinnie Cabano • an hour ago

good job sandoval..

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Willie • an hour ago

Mr. Bundy seems like loose cannon to me. Who knows how far he is willing to go. In this day and age; I dont blame the BLM for the show of force.

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aussiegirlMI Willie • 2 minutes ago

When was the last time your family lived on a ranch, cows that grazed there and NOW they want "grazing fees", revenue, revenue anyway the government can get it. So they will round up his livelihood, sell the cows for slaughter and keep the money. The man "owes" 1.1m to the BLM BUT the same fools will spend 1M of OUR money to round up the cows. Upside down, backwards world we live in.
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Rothbard Fanatatic Willie • 28 minutes ago

I see only one group out there that is strapped.
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DeDondeEs Willie • an hour ago

Yeah he has made some veiled threats but has never acted on them, so then why don't they just assign a few federal officers to monitor the guy and his family while they are doing the roundup? Or get some sort of court order to put the guy and his family under house arrest or something. You go out there and it looks like they have the hunt for Rambo going on with all of the law enforcement officers they have.

I agree with Sandoval. Those First Ammendment Areas are a joke. Let's seal off thousands of acres of land then have two 1/4 acre sized pens for people to protest.
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Highflyin Brien Willie • an hour ago

I'm quite sure the REAL Willie wouldn't share your bend over and grab your ankles attitude towards armed confrontation by this federal bully squad...against US citizens.
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Highflyin Brien • 2 hours ago

Alright then Governor...this is a good starting point. Now it's time to show why we're the Battleborn State. It's time for you to urge our two US senators & four US congressmen to draft legislation to take back OUR land. Also...you should direct our state legislature to begin working on the steps to coordinate this. And you should direct the BLM to cease & desist...NOW. Just wondering...are the two BLM agents who shot and killed the disoriented young man near Red Rocks a part of this illustrious federal squad?

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CS1 • 2 hours ago

In the immortal words of George Bush, "we are a nation of laws, and must enforce our laws."

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Green Dragon Regular • 2 hours ago

Good for Guv! Now, pending the Feds' response, he needs to be prepared to direct local law enforcement to make their presence known and at least observe and report.

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Wally Marshall • 3 hours ago

This land is your land, this land is my land, NOT Go Sandoval! The fed has become a huge bully on so many issues and do so with arrogance and ignorance.

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John Normanton • 3 hours ago

Well said Governor your stand on guns and now this gets my vote.

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Highflyin Brien Kevin Olsen • 2 hours ago

Spammer...pond scum of the earth...please flag this!
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sheepwatcher • 4 hours ago

Way to go Sandoval.it won't do any good because the feds don't listen to anyone but at least he spoke up against this charade.The BLM and feds are morons.

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vickysecho • 4 hours ago

I don't support ranchers that lease BLM land for next to nothing and complain about the wild horses until they are rounded up and removed for more forage for the privately owned livestock while a private person profits as the horses suffer. Yet, I feel for Mr. Bundy and for his cattle and yet they were destined for slaughter to begin with - unlike the wild horses. I can feel the violation, anger, desparation and saddness that no doubt he is feeling as he watches them take his cattle. I can only hope that more ranchers can feel what wild horse advocates have felt for years at every wild horse roundup. At least Mr. Bundy had a choice. He's had 20 years to remove his cattle. 20 years! Still I feel for him and his cattle....

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Ludenella • 4 hours ago

The U.S. Bureau of Land Management announced it will kill
hundreds of threatened desert tortoises it's been caring for at a Nevada conservation
facility.

http://www.kingsnake.com/blog/...

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Kimberly Richter • 6 hours ago

Lastly, screw the BLM. Schmucks.

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Paul Rupp Kimberly Richter • 6 hours ago

123t178 refuses to admit or deny working for the U.S. Government... and responds to every comment critical of BLM/Federal craziness....
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123tl78 Paul Rupp • 6 hours ago

They certainly aren't perfect but to say some people aren't taking advantage of the cheaper grazing rates on federal land is just ridiculous. That's why there's so much livestock all over the place. A cushy deal for livestock owners grazing their livestock on public lands as opposed to buying their own land.
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Paul Rupp 123tl78 • 6 hours ago

and again you failed to show clean hands....
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123tl78 Paul Rupp • 6 hours ago

I did just fine Paul. You just don't have an argument.
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123tl78 Kimberly Richter • 6 hours ago

Why? Livestock owners pay much cheaper to graze their livestock on
federal lands without owning it. The private landowner has to buy their
own land at a higher price and graze their livestock on their own land.
What are you complaining about?
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Kimberly Richter • 6 hours ago

Sandoval just scored huge points with me. Nevada needs to stand up and take our MILLIONS of acres out of federal control. This is our state.

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FootlooseHorse Kimberly Richter • 6 hours ago

<< Nevada needs to stand up and take our MILLIONS of acres out of federal control. >>

You'll have to take it up with Congress though, and not try to accomplish it with a one-man hold-out, as they are the only ones authorized by the Constitution to make changes...

“[W]ith respect to the public domain, the Constitution vests in Congress the power of disposition and of making all needful rules and regulations. That power is subject to no limitations. Congress has the absolute right to prescribe the times, the conditions, and the mode of transferring this property, or any part of it, and to designate the persons to whom the transfer shall be made. No State legislation can interfere with this right or embarrass its exercise; and to prevent the possibility of any attempted interference with it, a provision has been usually inserted in the compacts by which new States have been admitted to the Union, that such interference with the primary disposal of the soil of the United States shall never be made.” [Gibson v. Chouteau, 80 U.S. 92 (1872)]
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Lobo06 Kimberly Richter • 6 hours ago

Kimme dear, there is absolutely no way to just take land under the control of the FEDERAL government. That would be tantamount to insurrection and mutiny, that tactic was used before and it pretty much failed in bloody disaster for the cowpokes trying to take the land. The ones that survived the gunfight where hung as insurrectionist and inciting mayhem. Happened in texas, Missouri and couple other places through the years and not one attempt took or held one acre of dusty ground. Bundy needs to repay his debt and get his cows back so read my other post on how to do it.!~
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Lobo06 • 6 hours ago

OH I forgot the food. Barbeque and rolls. Beans, apple pies! Somebody show some interest at least. Ya now Bundy is salt of the earth type I think. If he goes down I think its a model for the feds to work on the next guy thats goes feral.

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Lobo06 • 6 hours ago

I am telling you if Bundy wants his cattle back we need to turn this into a full blown media spectacle, with thing people love to do PARTY! A fund raising party. Bring in as many acts for vegas to hear that they can get. Do the Car shows, a rodeo, roping and bull riding. If your gonna save ol man Bundies hide no pun intended we gotta do the unexpected. No guns, no rifles, no angry rhetoric, but we get beer and a car show to. If anyone thinks this might be worthy idea arrow up if not I was out of mind and have no memoiry of this incident. Old man Bundy you got this pot boiling, you better look out the box to see what you can salvage and damn fast. The cows are probably going to be gone in a week.

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Kimberly Richter Lobo06 • 6 hours ago

I'd attend. Party time.
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stick Lobo06 • 6 hours ago

the feds had snipers on hilltops pointing rifles at the heads of some of the bundys on sunday when they arrested dave bundy for not being in the designated free speech protest zone. we dont need circus games up there, what we need is an armed citizenry up there as a show of constitutional force that this kind of terrorism by the govt will not be tolerated
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FootlooseHorse stick • 6 hours ago

Did you know that in one picture that's being passed around as being "snipers" the guy on the left is in blue jeans? Are you sure these aren't Bundy *supporters*, because the 2 men pictured don't appear to be wearing uniforms. Granted, the photo is from a long way off, but how do you "know" these were "snipers"?
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stick FootlooseHorse • 5 hours ago

every one of these blm officers were spotted last friday at a local hotel in vegas wearing full combat gear and fully armed. i can assure you that the feds have all the taxpayers resources at their disposal with this operation. I couldnt find the law that states federal law enforcement officers cannot wear denim.
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FootlooseHorse stick • 5 hours ago

Still, jeans, a white shirt sticking out at the back, and a jacket... that doesn't sound like "full combat gear" OR BLM ranger uniforms. I'm not necessarily arguing with you, but for as official an oppression as some of you guys are making this out to be, jeans don't "seem" to fit the profile. Also, as you likely well know, there have been numerous offers of "help" to Rancher Bundy, from militia groups, etc., so the possibility certainly exists that these are actually supporters rather than "snipers."

In any case, caution and protection for the staff and contractors is certainly warranted, given the "any means necessary" comments by Rancher Bundy over the years.
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Lobo06 stick • 6 hours ago

What you will have are alot dead civilians. Women kids no thanks nobody wants that. We have a fun time in mesquite under the big white tent and parking lot. Something to give Mr. Bundy to fight back with money. Anyone know Randy Black if anyone can through the logistics for a big party together fast its him and his staff. Well it was a idea that didn't involve killing men women and maybe children. Going up against the feds is pure stupidty.
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stick Lobo06 • 6 hours ago

thats the mentality that has given rise to every dictatorship in history. im sure glad the founding fathers during the american revolution did not share your ideals. never stand up to a bully huh? bullies only listen to one kind of response, and it sure aint a party
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123tl78 stick • 6 hours ago

He didn't pay his grazing fees. He just decided to do that all of his own accord. Then he threatened with violence. The rancher started this whole stupid situation twenty years ago.
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stick 123tl78 • 6 hours ago

so explain why you think its ok to point sniper rifles at his son for filming the roundup with an ipad. there are lots of illegal aliens in this country that did not pay their citizenship fees, why arent the feds pointing rifles at their families?
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ford stick • 6 hours ago

Exactly. When the feds don't get their way thru paper terrorism they show up in full force with snipers and swat outfits.
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Lobo06 stick • 6 hours ago

Well they got reports they where going to armed hooligans at the protest and that quote a "range war" may happen. So feds do what they do. LOAD UP RIDE> so whats so hard for you to understand.
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123tl78 stick • 6 hours ago

Maybe because they considered the rancher a threat given there were threats of violence from him. Just a precautionary measure.
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stick 123tl78 • 6 hours ago

so whats wrong with law abiding armed citizens going down there to protect liberty and make sure the grievances of citizens are constitutionally protected as "a precautionary measure" as you put it?
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At the Bundy Ranch in Nevada, the BLM is cracking down on rancher Cliven Bundy, killing cows, arresting people for stepping on dirt, arresting protesters, stealing cattle, spending millions of dollars, hiring mercenaries and flying snipers around in helicopters ... all in the name of protecting the desert tortoise. Pete Santilli joins Adam for a special live report.

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Channel 8 news say they will be up there today...we will see, my faith in the media is limited!!!

your watching a Rogue Agency conduct the early stages of Ruby Ridge / Waco Operation

I especially like this statement

bk • 20 minutes ago Nevada has two hundred thousand illegals grazing without permits too, doesn't Nevada have a Sheriff?

Apparently only when he wants to be one, and then it seems that most of the time "The Oath of Office" is null and void!!!!!!!!

qwkinuf • 5 minutes ago There's an ironic hypocrisy behind this story; an absurd political corruption is taking
place. It started several years ago when the activists and liberals teamed together with the BLM to claim that Nevada desert tortoises were an emergency endangered species in a government land grab. The government has been harassing every rancher since.
But there was no problem whatsoever when Obama pushed support for the Nevada Ivanpah Solar facility. That project caused the loss or significant degradation of 3,520 acres of tortoise habitat and the harm of 57–274 adult tortoises, 608 juveniles, and 236
eggs inside the work area, and 203 adult tortoises and 1,541 juvenile tortoises outside the work area. The BLM determined that most of the juvenile tortoises on the project were killed.
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So it has clearly become time for our country to start replacing the politicians and judges who believe they have total control over us. There is no room for politicians who believe that Americans live to work for the government. Americans work to live for themselves.
It's high time for President Potato Head, Harriet & Hillary, Nancy & Eric, Kathleen & Lois, and the rest of their Merry Band of Lying Misfits to go.

That was Harry Reids territory!!!!!

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Last Man Standing – Federal Fascism Cowboys Up In Nevada
Posted: 09 Apr 2014 08:48 AM PDT
By: Terresa Monroe-Hamilton
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“We’re not pointing guns at anyone but we’re sure getting a lot of guns pointed at us.”

- Carol Bundy, wife of Nevada rancher
I’m from Nevada and trust me when I say there is a long and deep hatred of the BLM there. Cliven Bundy, the last rancher in Clark County, Nev., and his family has run a ranch there for well over a 100 years. Their cattle have fed off open range grazing freely, until 1993, when the US government decided they wanted to extort Bundy by charging him fees to let his cattle feed on a ranch that he oversees. Now, the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) has moved in with officials armed with machine guns, who are surrounding the ranch and forcibly removing the owner’s cattle, according to the rancher’s family. This is with the help of hired cowhands. Shame on them. Bundy won’t go down without a fight – you see, he’s fighting for his family and his Constitutional rights and he’s willing to go down for it. He’s not alone by any means… this whole situation could turn into another Ruby Ridge or Waco — the Feds are making their fascist point: we own all of the land and you can pay up or have it seized.
After 20 years of court battles, the BLM finally got a corrupt judge to issue a federal court order to have Bundy’s “trespass cattle” forcibly removed with heavy artillery, the family said. Heavy handed doesn’t begin to cover it here.
The Washington Free Beacon:

“The battle’s been going on for 20 years,” Bundy told theWashington Free Beacon. “What’s happened the last two weeks, the United States government, the bureaus are getting this army together and they’re going to get their job done and they’re going to prove two things. They’re going to prove they can do it, and they’re gonna prove that they have unlimited power, and that they control the policing power over this public land. That’s what they’re trying to prove.”
Bundy said the government has brought everything but tanks and rocket launchers.

I’m sick of this. I’m sick of the Feds breaking down our doors with SWAT teams in the dead of night. I’m sick of warrantless search and seizures. I’m sick of them seizing our property and forcing us to prove innocence to get it back. I’m sick to death of the spying and bullying. And I think the rest of America feels the same way. These jack booted thugs are taking away this family’s livelihood that they have owned and worked for since 1870… now they’ve arrested his son. Bring on the Range War you asshats. I wish I was back in Nevada, I’d be standing with the “Red Dawn” supporters out there. The Feds are saying the protestors violated a “First Amendment Area” that was cordoned off by these brown shirts. WTF? What the bloody hell does that mean? Hundreds told the goons they could stuff it and protested any way.
This is the fricking EPA Marxists at work over the endangered desert tortoise. More Agenda 21 forced upon the people – more government regulation and control. These radical environmentalist thugs are cheering all this. You are evil and we’ve had enough.
More liberal fascism:

Environmentalists are praising the government’s forceful actions, which are being taken to protect the “desert tortoise.”
“We’re heartened and thankful that the agencies are finally living up to their stewardship duty,” said Rob Mrowka, a Nevada-based senior scientist with the Center for Biological Diversity. “The Gold Butte area has been officially designated as critical habitat for threatened tortoises—meaning the area is essential to their long-term survival as a species.”
“[Cliven] Bundy has long falsely believed that Gold Butte is his ranch,” added Terri Robertson, president of Friends of Sloan Canyon.
The BLM designated 186,909 acres of the Gold Butte off-limits for the “critical desert tortoise” population in 1998. Bundy had already lost his grazing permit five years earlier for refusing to pay fees for the land, which his family has ranched since the 1870s.
The “federal grazing fee” is $1.35 per “Animal Unit Month,” or the amount of forage needed per animal, each month. Bundy said he owes roughly $300,000 in back fees, while the BLM asserts he owes over $1 million. The BLM defended the removal because Bundy did not “voluntarily” give up his cattle.

So, the government just decided they own the land and that is the way it is, huh? Screw the government. And I mean that. I am beyond angry over this and am struggling not to get profane here.
From the DC Clothesline:

“We’ve had enough, we’re going to take our land back, we’re done,” said Bundy’s wife, Carol Bundy, adding that the rally was held “to show that we are not standing alone. People are getting tired of the federal government having unlimited power.”
More than 100 supporters violated a crudely taped off “First Amendment Area” to rally in support of the Bundy family, erecting two flagpoles with the words “We the People” attached, above a flag which read, “Liberty Freedom For God We Stand”. The first amendment area stood empty, with one sign nearby declaring, “1st Amendment is not an area.”
“I grew up on this ranch. This is what we knew,” said Margaret Houston, Cliven Bundy’s younger sister. “It’s got nothing to do with the cattle and the tortoises. It’s about taking our rights — power — and it’s wrong.”
“Right now it looks like the movie Red Dawn,” said, Ryan Bundy. “Right now we’ve got 200 plus federal agents up there in a military compound that they have put together and they’ve got snipers….everybody’s armed, and they’ve been monitoring our ranch with high-tech surveillance equipment….it was never about the grazing fees, it’s about control.”
Ranch manager Derrel Spencer warned that a “revolution” was brewing unless a solution could be found to settle the dispute.
As we reported yesterday in an article that has already garnered over 4300 comments, Bundy’s son Dave Bundy was arrested on Sunday by BLM officials after refusing to follow a dispersal order as he filmed cattle from a state highway. According to Dave’s brother Ryan Bundy, snipers had guns trained on them throughout the incident. Feds claimed Dave Bundy had violated the ludicrous “First Amendment Area,” outside of which free speech is banned.

Trained snipers have their sites on these people, just itching for a bloodbath:
I would ask these Feds how they sleep at night? How do you justify this and live with yourselves? Have you really pledged all to the government and have forgotten what it is to be a free American? Obviously, you’ve made your choice. Well, mine is made too and I stand with the Bundys. After his son’s arrest, Cliven Bundy posted a statement on his website which read, “They have my cattle and now they have one of my boys. Range War begins tomorrow.” Damned straight Cliven – they stepped way over the line. They arrested his son and threw him physically on the ground for taking pictures. The BLM said they took Dave Bundy into custody following his “failure to comply with multiple requests by BLM law enforcement to leave the temporary closure area on public lands.”
This is what arming the Fed to the teeth brings and don’t kid yourselves, the Bundys are not an isolated case. They are coming after many of us and this is just one line in the sand. This is Obama’s new homeland military force in action:

“They’re carrying the same things a soldier would,” he said. “Automatic weapons, sniper rifles, top communication, top surveillance equipment, lots of vehicles. It’s heavy soldier type equipment.”
His wife, Carol Bundy, said that roughly 200 armed agents from the BLM and FBI are stationed around their land, located about 75 miles outside of Las Vegas. Helicopters circle the premises, and the airspace and nearby roads remain blocked.
“We’re surrounded,” Carol Bundy said. “We’re estimating that there are over 200 armed BLM, FBI. We’ve got surveillance cameras at our house, they’re probably listening to me talk to you right now.”

Video has been taken of helicopters and cowboys removing the cattle, but true to their evil nature, the Feds are lying about it. What did you expect? They are claiming their security is in place because ‘they’ have been threatened. That’s rich and so typically Progressive. As of Monday, officials had seized 234 of Bundy’s 908 cattle. Impounding the cattle alone could cost the government as much as $3 million, but to the Bundys, it is priceless in its devastation.
The sheriff and governor there are being cowards. They say there is nothing they can do. No… they don’t want to get into a pissing contest with the government. Weakness is being bleated from politicians who could damn well put a stop to this:

“And our sheriff says he just doesn’t have authority, our governor says he doesn’t have authority, and we’re saying, why are we a state?”
“I’m a producer,” Cliven Bundy said. “I produce edible commodity from the desert forage, and all of these things are governed under state law. So, in other words, this type of government has eliminated all of our state law, eliminated our state sovereignty, and has took control over our public lands and even took control over our Clark County sheriff. They’ve taken the whole county over. The whole state, almost.”
“This is just about power of the government,” Carol Bundy said.
Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval (R.) voiced his concern about so-called “First Amendment Areas,” designated locations set up by the BLM where citizens can protest the removal.
“Most disturbing to me is the BLM’s establishment of a ‘First Amendment Area’ that tramples upon Nevadans’ fundamental rights under the U.S. Constitution,” he said in a statement Tuesday.
“To that end, I have advised the BLM that such conduct is offensive to me and countless others and that the ‘First Amendment Area’ should be dismantled immediately,” he said. “No cow justifies the atmosphere of intimidation which currently exists nor the limitation of constitutional rights that are sacred to all Nevadans. The BLM needs to reconsider its approach to this matter and act accordingly.”
Sandoval also said his office has received numerous complaints about the BLM’s conduct, including road closures and “other disturbances.”

Nice speech Governor, how about putting something behind your words? Offensive? That’s an understatement if I’ve ever heard one and you know it. Grow a set and kick the Feds out, it’s your state damn it. The Bundys will do whatever they have to. They’ll protect their family and land, no matter the cost. What’s your cost? What are you doing? A tough-as-nails rancher will be the last man standing as federal fascism cowboys up in Nevada. I feel a revolutionary rallying call coming on.

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