Thread: Armed militia group attempting to overthrow the government

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2
So far only "Breaking and entering".
They broke into a locked building.

. . . "After the march Saturday, the armed protesters broke into the refuge's unoccupied building and refused to leave. Officials have said there are no government employees in the building." . . .
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/03/us/ore...efuge-protest/

Originally Posted by Judy

The article didn't say it was locked. They may have just opened the door. . . .

The article did say "BROKE INTO".
I do not know Oregon laws but in most places being armed during the commission of a crime is a separate crime.

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2
So far only "Breaking and entering".
They broke into a locked building.

. . . "After the march Saturday, the armed protesters broke into the refuge's unoccupied building and refused to leave. Officials have said there are no government employees in the building." . . .
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/03/us/ore...efuge-protest/

The article did say "BROKE INTO".
I do not know Oregon laws but in most places being armed during the commission of a crime is a separate crime.

But JohnDoe2, you know you can't rely upon that phrase "broke into" by the media as being an actual breaking of a lock. If they actually committed the crime of breaking and entering, the media would have said how they broke into the building. My guess is it's an empty unoccupied building and the doors weren't locked.

The Sheriff didn't say they broke into the building. He said they're "occupying it". They may have broken into it, but until someone says they broke a lock or knocked out windows or tore open a door with a crow-bar or however they committed the crime of "breaking and entering" or "broke into" a locked facility, I'm for giving them the benefit of the doubt, even though I don't agree with what they're doing, it may well be a perfectly legal protest on public property.

As per usual anything you say has to be fact

and anything anyone else, or the media says has to be wrong?

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

As per usual anything you say has to be fact

and anything anyone else, or the media says has to be wrong?

Well, no, JohnDoe2. Just tell me how they "broke in" before you tell me they committed "breaking and entering". That's a pretty essential element of a breaking and entering charge is how they broke in. And we know CNN is dishonest and sloppy as hell, so why stand up for them instead of my point?

Militiamen In Burns, Oregon Break Into Malheur National Wildlife Refuge Building

by Kimberley Freda and John Sepulvado OPB | Jan. 2, 2016 6:23 p.m. | Updated: Jan. 3, 2016 12:51 p.m.

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Embattled Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy told OPB that approximately 150 militiamen occupied the Malheur National Widlife Refuge Building on Saturday evening.

Other sources suggested the number was closer to 15 militiamen inside the building. Ammon Bundy, the spokesperson of the militia group, declined to confirm how many people were there.

The militiamen are in Burns, Oregon to support Dwight Hammond Jr. and his son, Steven Hammond. They’re ranchers convicted of arson, who are due to report to prison Monday.

The militiamen broke into the federal building with supplies, including food and a generator. Cliven Bundy spoke to his son, Ammon Bundy, on the phone after they occupied the building.

“He told me that they were there for the long run. I guess they figured they’re going to be there for whatever time it takes—and I don’t know what that means,” Bundy said. “I asked him, ‘Well how long can ya, how long you going to stand out there?’ He just told me it was for long term.”

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The Hammonds have said they will report to prison Monday for a five-year sentence. Bundy said his son felt obligated to intervene on behalf of the Hammonds.

“That’s not exactly what I thought should happen, but I didn’t know what to do,” Bundy said. “You know, if the Hammonds wouldn’t stand, if the sheriff didn’t stand, then, you know, the people had to do something. And I guess this is what they did decide to do. I wasn’t in on that.”Militiamen gathered in the parking lot of a Safeway grocery store Saturday morning, before taking to the streets of Burns. The group traveled Court Avenue to the sheriff’s office, then to the Hammonds’ home.

Dwight Hammond greeted the marchers.
“Remember, this is not about me. It’s about this country,” he said.

Many of the marchers later congregated at the Harney County Fairgrounds, before some diverted to the wildlife refuge.

Law enforcement took a laid back approach to the demonstration: Neither Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward or Oregon State Police made their presence known throughout the day. Both declined to comment for this story.

http://www.opb.org/news/article/mili...fuge-building/

Moved to Other Topics - Current event not concerning immigration of 2016 political races.

http://www.alipac.us/f19/full-story-...ldlife-326985/

Montel Williams Calls For "Shoot To Kill" In Oregon Showdown; Militiamen Respond They Are "Ready To Fight"

In the latest development in the ongoing saga of Ammon Bundy's seizure of a Federal wildlife reuge office in Oregon, the members of the militia said they're ready to fight, but they won't say what they would actually do if federal authorities try to remove them by force as reported in the clip below.


However, while we noted the shortcomings in Bundy's latest standoff last night, what is even more notable is that as Shepard Ambellas of Intellihub points out, Montel Williams he tweeted that the National Guard should be mobilized to “kill” protesters who have currently overtaken the federal building in Burns, Oregon.

Montel Williams Calls For "Shoot To Kill" In Oregon Showdown; Militiamen Respond They Are "Ready To Fight" | Zero Hedge

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

As per usual anything you say has to be fact

and anything anyone else, or the media says has to be wrong?

A good portion of what the media says is garbage, especially the stuff about global warming and illegal immigration.

Burns, Oregon residents' message to militia: 'Go away'