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    Bloomberg Moves Closer to Running for President

    Bloomberg Moves Closer to Running for President
    By SAM ROBERTS
    Buoyed by the still unsettled field, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg is growing increasingly enchanted with the idea of launching an independent presidential bid, and his aides are aggressively laying the groundwork for him to run.

    On Sunday, the mayor will join Democratic and Republican elder statesmen at the University of Oklahoma in what the conveners are billing as an effort to pressure the major party candidates to renounce partisan gridlock.

    Former Senator David L. Boren of Oklahoma, who organized the session with former Senator Sam Nunn, a Democrat of Georgia, suggested in an interview that if the prospective major party nominees failed within two months to formally embrace bipartisanship and address the fundamental challenges facing the nation, “I would be among those who would urge Mr. Bloomberg to very seriously consider running for president as an independent.â€
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    I have a little thought in the back of my little political mind. If Bloomberg enters the race doesn’t it hurt the Dem presidential candidate allot more than the Republican candidate?

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    ANOTHER CFR

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    BLOOMBERG IS AN IA HUGGER.........BUT WATCH HIM CHANGE HIS TUNE IF HE RUNS!!!!!!!!!!

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    Bulldogger wrote:

    I have a little thought in the back of my little political mind. If Bloomberg enters the race doesn’t it hurt the Dem presidential candidate allot more than the Republican candidate?
    According to the following article, it would depend upon the scenario.

    June 21, 2007
    Whom Does a Bloomberg '08 Run Help or Hurt?
    By John McIntyre

    Opinion seems to be all over the lot on this question. And my first reaction is a Bloomberg run will hurt the Democratic nominee, because at his core Michael Bloomberg is a liberal and his maximum appeal will be to Democrats and Democrat-leaning independents. In the same way Ross Perot at his core was a conservative with an appeal that was clearly more to Republicans and Republican-leaning independents. At the end of the day, this simple analysis is probably the most accurate gauge of the likely impact of any Bloomberg candidacy.

    However, if he does run I don't know that it would be as simple as that. Election 2008 is shaping up to be a bizarre and different election on so many different levels that I can begin to imagine scenarios where a Bloomberg run could hurt the Republican nominee more.

    What makes this more intriguing is the likelihood of Bloomberg getting in is inversely related to the strength of the eventual major-party nominees. A Romney-Edwards general election would be Bloomberg's best hope and in the unlikely event they are both the nominees I think a Bloomberg run becomes a near certainty, with a Bloomberg presidency a possibility.

    Of the other leading candidates Giuliani, Thompson and McCain for the Republicans and Obama (and Gore) for the Democrats it is hard to envision the type of election where Bloomberg could find the opening to get the 35-40% of the national vote which is what he would need to win.

    The best argument I heard that a Bloomberg candidacy hurts Republicans was from Frank Luntz on Hannity & Colmes:

    COLMES: You said Bloomberg jumping in hurts Republicans more than it hurts Democrats, why?
    LUNTZ: Because the Democratic base is stronger at this point than the Republican base. The Republican base has eroded over the last two or three years......Hillary Clinton has got a base vote of about 38 percent, 39 percent. She can't go any lower. The Republican base vote now is about one-third.


    I think Luntz makes a very good point here: the Democratic base is stronger and more eager to win than the Republicans, but this is exactly what makes a Bloomberg run -- as long as Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee -- very unlikely.

    Bloomberg's dilemma is this: even if Luntz is high with his 38%-39% projection for Hillary's base vote and it's really more around 35%, that's still too high for Bloomberg when you consider that the Republican base vote is at least 30%. That leaves Bloomberg no pathway to victory.

    Bloomberg needs the biggest possible opening, the kind that could be created by a progressive run by Edwards on the Democratic side and a less popular candidate on the Republican side that would give Bloomberg the opportunity to go after moderate, suburban voters turned off by an energetic embrace of social conservative issues. Romney-Edwards is the kind of scenario where Bloomberg could plausibly thread the needle in a three-way (33-33-33) type of race. Don't misunderstand me - it is still an uphill battle, but it is at least conceivable.

    So, to answer the original question, a Bloomberg candidacy would hurt the Democratic nominee in most cases - except for the field that would generate the highest probability of Bloomberg actually getting into the race. In that scenario, Bloomberg could easily end up hurting the Republican as much, if not more, than the Democrat.

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    Another thought on a Bloomberg run..........IF HE DOES, and he waits until the last minute, he KNOWS it will be too late for voters to find out the truth about him being an IA hugger!!!!

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