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    Is Bombing Iran Bush's Call?

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    February 08, 2007

    Is Bombing Iran Bush's Call?
    By Patrick J. Buchanan

    In aborting Iran's nuclear program, "all options are on the table."

    Some version of this threat against Iran has lately been made by John McCain, Hillary Clinton, John Edwards and Mitt Romney.

    Yet, if an attack on Iran is among "options ... on the table," who put it there? Who gave President Bush the authority to attack Iran? And when was it granted? And are all options also "on the table" if North Korea continues to test nuclear weapons?

    What makes these questions other than academic is that Bush is putting in place military assets that will enable him to order and effect the rapid nuclear castration of Iran. But scarcely a peep of protest has been heard from our congressional leadership.

    Observers have noted the dispatch of minesweepers and another U.S. carrier to the Persian Gulf, the naming of Admiral Bill "Fox" Fallon to head CentCom, which today manages two ground wars, and the return of U.S. fighter-bombers to Turkey. In March's Vanity Fair, Craig Unger reports:

    "The same neocon ideologues behind the Iran war have been using the same tactics—alliances with shady exiles, dubious intelligence on WMD—to push for the bombing of Iran. As President Bush ups the pressure on Tehran, is he planning to double his Middle East bet?" [From the Wonderful Folks Who Brought You Iraq]

    Ex-Israeli Prime Minister "Bibi" Netanyahu has told CNN: "Iran is Germany, and it's 1938. Except that this Nazi regime that is in Iran ... wants to dominate the world, annihilate the Jews, but also annihilate America."

    More ominous than the hawk-talk is Unger's report that "Bush has directed StratCom (U.S. Strategic Command) to draw up plans for a massive strike against Iran at a time when CentCom has had its hands full overseeing operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Shifting to StratCom indicates that they are talking about a really punishing air force and naval air attack (on Iran)." So says retired Col. Patrick Lang, formerly of the Defense Intelligence Agency.

    Now, this dramatic turn toward Iran—as a menace and source of our troubles in Iraq, which began with Bush's speech announcing the surge—can have other interpretations.

    Bush may be waving a big stick in Tehran's face to compel it to negotiate its nuclear program. He may be reassuring the Saudis and Sunnis that America will not leave them to face a nuclear Iran. He may be recruiting and rallying an anti-Iran coalition of Israel and Sunni Arab states to stand up to the Shia superpower in the Gulf. He may be playing to the home crowd in America, which is more receptive to keeping nuclear weapons away from the mullahs than in making Iraq safe for democracy at a cost of 100 U.S. dead a month.

    But whatever motive he has, Bush is putting in place forces to enable him to order an all-out attack on Iran's navy, air force, and anti-aircraft, anti-ship and land-based missiles—and all its known nuclear facilities.

    Now, as there is no indication Iran is preparing any attack on U.S. forces or facilities, or the homeland, such a U.S. attack would be the first strike in a preventive war—like the ones Japan executed at Port Arthur in 1904 and Pearl Harbor in 1941. Only Bush could claim Iran had been repeatedly warned of what he would do.

    So, we return to the question: Does Bush have the authority to do this? If so, where did he get it, as Congress alone is empowered in the Constitution to declare war?

    Discussing preventive war on Iran on "Hardball," Sen. Jim Webb said he is considering introducing a resolution declaring that Bush has no authority in present law to launch a war on Iran.

    Such a resolution, HJR 14, has already been introduced in the House by Rep. Walter Jones, Republican of North Carolina, and now has the backing of 28 members. In an anguished plea to President Bush, Ron Paul, Republican of Texas, implored: "Don't do it, Mr. President. Don't bomb Iran. ... We don't need it. We don't want it."

    Paul went on to declare that, today, Bush has no authority—in the Constitution, in the law or in morality—to launch a pre-emptive war on another nation that has not attacked us.

    So, will the neocons get their way and their new war—on Iran?

    Or will Congress follow the guidance of Jefferson: "In questions of powers, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution."

    Those member of Congress today apologizing for having voted Bush a blank check for war on Iraq might better tell Bush, by joint resolution, that he has no blank check for a war on Iran.

    Or is this Congress, too, terrified of crossing the War Party?

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    Bush should not drag us into a war with IRAN

    We haven't won a war since WWII. America no longer has the guts to do what needs to be done to win. Bush should not bomb Iran.

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    Well, the choices are simple.

    If we are to remain a global power whose financial interests span the globe, then we must defend our interests abroad and at home when they are verbally and physically threatened by lunatic idealogues and religious zealots. Ahmadinejad has specifically threatened the US and her allies with total destruction on multiple occasions. The Iranian nuclear program no sense whatsoever outside the context of offensive weaponry, given that Iran has all the cheap energy that it needs and then some in the form of vast petroleum reserves. If we are to remain a glbal power with international interests, the threat posed by Ahmadinejad must be neutralized. Period.

    The other choice is to genuinely return to the sort of relative isolationism favored by the Founding Fathers. Making that choice would have serious ramifications on the way that this nation operates and on our mentary system and debt structure. My personal preference lies here, with a disavowal of the fraudulent debt imposed by European banks and an end to the current plutocratic rule. It would, however, likely result in many major corporations relocating to actively internationalist states and would permanently remove the US from its position as superpower. For these reasons, such a course is prohibitively unlikely barring some sort of popular revolution.

    I will note that even the isolationist Founding Fathers had the good sense to understand the Islamist threat to US commerce posed by the Barbary Corsairs based in Tripoli, to the extent that our first war as a new nation was fought on the high seas and on the shores of Africa's Barbary Coast half a world away from our own borders. It's amazing how little things change in 200 years.

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    I hear you GhostCrocket.


    This whole war is a two edge sword. We have to defeat the terrorists and their idiology but it seem the very war meant to help us and the free world enflames and fuels radical muslims for jihad and it's spreading. The battle for the free world is not an easy road to haul. I'm just apprehensive that not enough diplomacy by the free world to stop Iran's nuclear development is being done. If we go to war with Iran, will it spill into the rest of the middle east? I think it would and the world will definately be a much more dangerous place.
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    I realize this post is about whether Bush has the authority to Bomb Iran if he deems it necessary.

    My concern is that this Administration is so focused on Iraq and Iran that they are blinded to the threat from China. China is taking full advantage of the US's preoccupation with Iraq to increase it's militay by leaps and bounds. Also building bombs and missiles in massive amounts.
    To top that off we are so in debt to China that we have little barganing power left. This administration can not afford to ignore what China is doing.
    Then we have N. Korea!

    We also do not have the military forces to take on Iran. My Lord, some of our military is going or have gone to Iraq for the 4th tour of duty. That is asking too much.We must not forget that we are still in Afganistan and that is far from stable.

    We need some REAL leaders to get us out of this mess!!!!
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