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    Quote Originally Posted by jtdc View Post
    Woman arrested for giving marijuana to 1-year-old Video - ABC News

    Like I said, we don't live in your perfect world!

    "There is none so blind as those who will not see."
    Are you so blind as not to see that this is already illegal and continues to be illegal under every state law I know about including where this woman did this, or supposedly did this, in North Carolina? The woman was arrested in a state where recreational pot is ILLEGAL. These types of stories don't sway me. There's no logic behind this angle. If you exceed the speed limit with babies in the car, potentially risking their lives, do we ban cars? Uuuh, nope. Some crazy person shoots up a school with an AR-15, do we ban AR-15s? Uuuuh, nope. Someone serves chicken with salmonella and makes people sick, do we ban chicken? Uuuuh, nope! Someone sells or gives Oxycontin to someone and they die from an overdose, do we ban Oxycontin? Uuuuuh, nope! Crazy Muslims hijack 4 commercial airliners and kill over 3,000 people on 9/11, do we ban commercial airlines? Uuuuuh, nope! We didn't even ban Crazy Muslims.

    Time to chill on weed. Weed is the least of our worries. Time to stop wasting police and law enforcement resources chasing pot smokers and go chase Crazy Muslims and Illegal Aliens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    The woman was arrested in a state where recreational pot is ILLEGAL.
    Yes! The point is, CHILDREN ARE NOT PROTECTED BY AGE LIMITS. The more these drugs are available, the more will be available to children!

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    These types of stories don't sway me.
    Hence the blind reference!

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    If you exceed the speed limit with babies in the car, potentially risking their lives, do we ban cars?
    No! But the babies won't be hurt unless you get in a wreck while speeding. Then you will be prosecuted!

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    Time to chill on weed.
    With people like you voting, I probably will, in all the pot smoke.

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    You live in California. California voters passed Proposition 64 by ballot initiative in 2016 to legalize weed in California for recreational use, 57% to 43%. double-digit 14% victory. Your arguments didn't sway in California, so your failed position on a cruel and failed War on Weed in California .... lost. It wasn't even close. GOOD FOR CALIFORNIA!! Power to the People!!!

    Time for "people like you voting" to chill and move on.

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    Judy wrote (excerpt):

    Time to chill on weed. Weed is the least of our worries. Time to stop wasting police and law enforcement resources chasing pot smokers and go chase Crazy Muslims and Illegal Aliens.
    Police don't typically chase pot smokers, but they do chase illegal dealers, smugglers and illegal manufacturers. Furthermore, I think we've seen plenty of evidence coming out of Colorado that proves the illegal drug trade has not and will not go away just because marijuana is legalized. Of course some of us knew that long ago ... the rest chose to live in denial of their common sense.

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    Well, seems to me your "evidence" either turned out to be dead wrong or a "mixed bag" and too early to tell.

    But sleep well tonight knowing that ALL of the recreational drug trade in your state of North Carolina is illegal and run 100% by foreign drug cartels. And don't forget that jtdc's Facebook "evidence" of weed and the baby was in your state of North Carolina where weed is ILLEGAL. Yeah, the woman was arrested right there in the North Carolina state capital of Raleigh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    You live in California. California voters passed Proposition 64 by ballot initiative in 2016 to legalize weed in California for recreational use, 57% to 43%. double-digit 14% victory.
    Don't rub it in!

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    Your arguments didn't sway in California, so your failed position on a cruel and failed War on Weed in California .... lost.
    But I care for my fellow man.

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    Time for "people like you voting" to chill and move on.
    I believe there is still hope to enlighten lost souls such as yours!

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    The Next 15 States to Legalize Marijuana - 24/7 Wall St.
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    Jan 4, 2018 - However, the momentum for greater recreational use of the drug may ... Though every state to legalize pot so far has done so through ballot ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtdc View Post
    Don't rub it in!

    But I care for my fellow man.

    I believe there is still hope to enlighten lost souls such as yours!
    Go down town and help some homeless people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Go down town and help some homeless people.
    I'm already treading water and losing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Well, seems to me your "evidence" either turned out to be dead wrong or a "mixed bag" and too early to tell.

    But sleep well tonight knowing that ALL of the recreational drug trade in your state of North Carolina is illegal and run 100% by foreign drug cartels. And don't forget that jtdc's Facebook "evidence" of weed and the baby was in your state of North Carolina where weed is ILLEGAL. Yeah, the woman was arrested right there in the North Carolina state capital of Raleigh!
    Not only has legalizing marijuana in Colorado not ended the illegal drug trade, it is expanding on it.

    Drug traffickers are making millions shipping Colorado marijuana to other states


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    DENVER (AP) — Seeking a safe haven in Colorado's legal marijuana marketplace, illegal drug traffickers are growing weed among the state's sanctioned pot warehouses and farms, then covertly shipping it elsewhere and pocketing millions of dollars from the sale, according to law enforcement officials and court records consulted by The Associated Press.



    In one case, the owner of a skydiving business crammed hundreds of pounds of Colorado pot into his planes and flew the weed to Minnesota, where associates allegedly sold it for millions of dollars in cash. In another, a Denver man was charged with sending more than 100 pot-filled FedEx packages to Buffalo, New York, where drug dealers divvied up the shipment. Twenty other drug traffickers, many from Cuba, were accused of relocating to Colorado to grow marijuana that they sent to Florida, where it can fetch more than double the price in a legal Colorado shop.

    These cases and others confirm a longstanding fear of marijuana opponents that the state's much-watched experiment in legal pot would invite more illegal trafficking to other states where the drug is still strictly forbidden.

    One source is Colorado residents or tourists who buy retail pot and take it out of state. But more concerning to authorities are larger-scale traffickers who move here specifically to grow the drug and ship to more lucrative markets.

    The trend also bolsters the argument of neighboring Nebraska and Oklahoma, which filed a lawsuit in late 2014 seeking to declare Colorado's pot legalization unconstitutional, arguing that the move sent a tide of illicit weed across their borders. The Obama administration last month urged the Supreme Court to reject the suit, saying that the leakage was not Colorado's fault.

    No one knows exactly how much pot leaves Colorado. When illegal shipments are seized, it's often impossible to prove where the marijuana was grown. But court documents and interviews with law enforcement officials indicate well-organized traffickers are seeking refuge in Colorado's flourishing pot industry.

    "There's no question there's a lot more of this activity than there was two years ago," said Colorado's U.S. attorney, John Walsh.

    Some in the legal industry say police have exaggerated the problem and put unfair scrutiny on people who legally grow pot on behalf of patients. Lawmakers last year limited unregulated pot growers to no more than 99 plants in an effort to crack down on those selling untaxed pot.

    The federal government allowed Colorado's experiment on the condition that state officials act to keep marijuana from migrating to places where it is still outlawed and out of the hands of criminal cartels. Federal authorities acknowledge that both things are happening but say that, because the state is trying to keep its industry tightly regulated, there's no reason to end the legal pot trade.



    Rick Wilking/Reuters The pot industry also acknowledges the criminal activity and insists it is doing all it can to keep legally grown weed from crossing state lines. Among other safeguards, Colorado law requires growers to get a license and use a "seed-to-sale" tracking system that monitors marijuana plants at every stage. Many of the illicit growers come from elsewhere, never obtain a growing license and "don't even attempt to adhere to the law," said Barbra M. Roach, special agent in charge of the Drug Enforcement Administration's Denver field division. "It's like hiding in plain sight," she said.

    Authorities in Washington state, which also allows recreational marijuana, have noticed more marijuana leaving the state. But more reports are coming from Colorado, which has the nation's most robust commercial market and an international reputation for producing premium, high-potency pot.
    "It's a brand name now," Roach said.

    Jason Warf, head of the Southern Colorado Cannabis Council, said people are "coming from out-of-state, buying products from licensed stores and being arrested on their way home." That "is really hard to curb," he said. "We can't essentially babysit adults and their behavior."

    The Colorado Department of Revenue's marijuana-enforcement division cites shops if pot is unaccounted for but "after it's sold, we have very little control what happens to the marijuana," Director Lewis Koski said.

    Police agencies seized nearly 2 tons of Colorado weed from drivers who had intended to take it to 36 other states in 2014, the year legal pot shops opened, according to the Rocky Mountain High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area, a federally funded drug task force. By comparison, they seized less than a ton in 2009.

    U.S. postal inspectors seized about 470 pounds of Colorado pot from the mail in 2014, up from 57 pounds in 2010, according to the task force, whose findings are based on voluntary submissions from law enforcement agencies and are largely anecdotal.

    In this April 19, 2014 file photo, party goers dance and smoke pot on the first of two days at the annual 4/20 marijuana festival in Denver. The annual event is the first 4/20 marijuana celebration since retail marijuana stores began selling in Jan. 2014. A year after Colorado's marijuana tax for schools came in far short of its goal, the fund is setting records and has accrued more money in the first five months in 2015 than it did for all of 2014.AP Photo/Brennan Linsley

    Some cases have comic overtones, like when a Wyoming patrolman discovered 7 ounces of high-grade weed in trick-or-treat bags the day after Halloween, or when police in northern Colorado seized stuffed animals full of marijuana destined for Florida.Other operations are more sophisticated, like the one in which authorities say 32 people used skydiving planes and posed as licensed medical marijuana caregivers and small business owners to export tens of thousands of pounds of pot grown in Denver warehouses, usually to Minnesota. The organization made more than $12 million over four years, according to a state indictment.

    When they busted illegal pot farms in southern Colorado in September, state and federal agents found 28 guns, more than 1,000 plants and $25,000 in cash.

    A local UPS facility intercepts about 50 pounds of pot headed out of state each week, said Todd Reeves of the Colorado Drug Investigators Association. "We don't have the resources," he said, "to be able to go after every single one of these cases."

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