Thread: BO's Kenyan BC?

Originally Posted by jshhmr

Originally Posted by MW

mapwife wrote:

And what does this have to do with ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION and THE PRICE OF TEA IN CHINA????

This doesn't belong on the ALIPAC News board. There is a category for off topic news and discussions if you feel the need to perpetuate the birther myth.

This is for the forum called "Other news and topics."

I agree 100%. Until someone actually proves otherwise, this is all conspiracy theory.


TexasBorn wrote:

[quote:2eba20vn]You shouldn't take offense at the investigations into Obama's legitimacy. Perhaps you even voted for him but you shouldn't feel guilty for that mistake. Millions of others have fallen for Obama as well.

I'm not so sure mapwife has taken offense about the continued questions on Obama's legitimacy. More than likely she, like myself, is tired of seeing this topic forced into the discussion forums that are supposed to be for issues concerning immigration. IMO, until someone proves otherwise, the Obama birth question is nothing more than a conspiracy theory. If something legitimate arises from the discussion, it'll be all over the 6 o'clock news.

Oh, and I didn't vote for Obama, nor do I support him or his illegal alien administation!

Thank you MW. I honestly thought I was the ONLY one on this forum that thinks all of this is BS and a major distraction from our goal on this board. Glad to see you guys coming out of the woodwork.[/quote:2eba20vn]

JS, gee, just when I thought I had rescued you from the Dark Side you come up with another surprise! I agree, we should banish this Birther B.S. into the shadows of "Other news and topics." Makes me wonder why though, this particular discussion group has over 50,000 views and 1,500 postings, perhaps the largest on the site? Could it be that this is an important topic? Nahh, we're all just wackos and nutcases and the lawyers and plaintiffs who have filed the multitude of lawsuits across the country are just crazy people who want to frivolously spend their hard earned money. Hey guys, I could use some of that!

Makes me wonder why though, this particular discussion group has over 50,000 views and 1,500 postings, perhaps the largest on the site? Could it be that this is an important topic?

That thread has been kept alive by a small minority of Alipacer's. They should NOT represent the beliefs of other member of this site. What angers me is that topic seems to me MORE important than illegal immigration.

Personally, you entitled to your opinions regarding the certificate issue, but I think it would serve Alipac better if the discussion were taken elsewhere. It's really hard for me to get people to join Alipac that are Dems or independents when we have 65+ pages of the BS issue, rather than 65+ pages of a story about illegal immigration. I point people to Numbers USA instead because I don't see the Obama BS issue over there. They have ONE goal in mind at Numbers USA, which is illegal immigration. I thought that was our goal too.

I said it once and I will say it again, the Obama BS issues on this site is causing a loss in possible donations for Alipac.

JS, gee, just when I thought I had rescued you from the Dark Side you come up with another surprise!

Thanks for your concern TexasBorn Nice Star Wars reference. I see Darth Vader has convinced you that his side isn't the Dark side

[quote="jshhmr"]

Makes me wonder why though, this particular discussion group has over 50,000 views and 1,500 postings, perhaps the largest on the site? Could it be that this is an important topic?


LOL.....and how many views and postings have been yours?

That thread has been kept alive by a small minority of Alipacer's.

And, evidently, you are one of that "small minority"



Personally, you entitled to your opinions regarding the certificate issue, but I think it would serve Alipac better if the discussion were taken elsewhere. It's really hard for me to get people to join Alipac that are Dems or independents when we have 65+ pages of the BS issue, rather than 65+ pages of a story about illegal immigration.


I really find such statements very uncomplimentary to Democrats and Independents Jshmr.

The clear implication is that those belonging to those groups object to the rights of free speech and/or are so rigid in their thinking that they find it completely unacceptable to even visit a site where a variety of topics are discussed even though each and everyone of us has the right.....and ability.....to read, and participate in, discusions as we so choose or don't.

I also find such comments an incredible condemantion and disservice to the Democratic party as a whole when so many are attempting to overcome, and distance themselves from, the negative image being perpetrated by the iron fisted tactics of obama and his ultra lib thugs as they have made it clear that they will do whatever necessary to silence free speech, debate and dissent.

Further, I think I can point out where even you yourself have posted....many times....topics which are completely unrelated to illegal immigration and regularly participate in unrelated discussions.

And, there is nothing wrong with that. But please, do not.....when it's convenient for you to try and rid a board of a topic you do not care for.....use the "purity of the issue" argument as a talking point. It makes you appear hypocritical.



I said it once and I will say it again, the Obama BS issues on this site is causing a loss in possible donations for Alipac.


And this just reeks of coercion, quite frankly. Somehow, I expected better from you.

The clear implication is that those belonging to those groups object to the rights of free speech and/or are so rigid in their thinking that they find it completely unacceptable to even visit a site where a variety of topics are discussed even though each and everyone of us has the right.....and ability.....to read, and participate in, discusions as we so choose or don't.

As a donations driven website, the people that might stay and donate are people that believe the birther nonsense. If I convinced an Obama voting democrat that illegal immigration is wrong, and that is the only issue we can stand together on, what impression do you think they would get? Would they stay or go to a neutral site like Numbers?

Further, I think I can point out where even you yourself have posted....many times....topics which are completely unrelated to illegal immigration and regularly participate in unrelated discussions.

Well of course I have as well as everybody else. The difference is I am not trying to beat a dead horse like the BS issue. Again, 65+ pages of a conspiracy theory, and maybe 2-3 pages on an illegal immigration issue.

And, there is nothing wrong with that. But please, do not.....when it's convenient for you to try and rid a board of a topic you do not care for.....use the "purity of the issue" argument as a talking point. It makes you appear hypocritical.

First, thanks for the insult. I stand by my beliefs. What is hypocritical about that? I would be a hypocrite if I didn't stand up and call BS when I see it.

I said it once and I will say it again, the Obama BS issues on this site is causing a loss in possible donations for Alipac.[/b]


And this just reeks of coercion, quite frankly. Somehow, I expected better from you I said it once and I will say it again, the Obama BS issues on this site is causing a loss in possible donations for Alipac.[/b]


And this just reeks of coercion, quite frankly. Somehow, I expected better from you jshhmr

Coercion? It's the truth. There is only a small minority of people that believe the BS is fake, the rest thinks the birthers are nuts. Again, I will say if I were an Obama voting democrat, but just recently figured out illegal immigration is bad and wants to get involved but still holds on to other democratic ideals, as soon as I saw 65+ pages of the birther issue, I would laugh and move on instead of joining and donating. How can you not see that?

Originally Posted by jshhmr

Makes me wonder why though, this particular discussion group has over 50,000 views and 1,500 postings, perhaps the largest on the site? Could it be that this is an important topic?

That thread has been kept alive by a small minority of Alipacer's. They should NOT represent the beliefs of other member of this site. What angers me is that topic seems to me MORE important than illegal immigration.

Personally, you entitled to your opinions regarding the certificate issue, but I think it would serve Alipac better if the discussion were taken elsewhere. It's really hard for me to get people to join Alipac that are Dems or independents when we have 65+ pages of the BS issue, rather than 65+ pages of a story about illegal immigration. I point people to Numbers USA instead because I don't see the Obama BS issue over there. They have ONE goal in mind at Numbers USA, which is illegal immigration. I thought that was our goal too.

I said it once and I will say it again, the Obama BS issues on this site is causing a loss in possible donations for Alipac.

[quote:247us1ct]JS, gee, just when I thought I had rescued you from the Dark Side you come up with another surprise!

Thanks for your concern TexasBorn Nice Star Wars reference. I see Darth Vader has convinced you that his side isn't the Dark side [/quote:247us1ct]

JS, I certainly had no intention to stir up such deep emotions on this subject. Sadly, free speech is under fire wherever we look now. One only need look at our MSM and the elected powers that be. Were you on the side of free speech when faked documents surfaced proclaiming that GW Bush lied about his guard service? Did you try to silence the antagonists that called for impeachment of Clinton after the Lewinsky scandal? Right to dissent is at the heart of our constitution...without it, what are we? Like you, I hope that this hornets nest that has been stirred up on our Presidents eligibility will come to a satisfactory conclusion soon. We should all demand the same thing, honesty and truth from our elected leaders. Without it, we are nothing but paid servants.

Originally Posted by jshhmr

The clear implication is that those belonging to those groups object to the rights of free speech and/or are so rigid in their thinking that they find it completely unacceptable to even visit a site where a variety of topics are discussed even though each and everyone of us has the right.....and ability.....to read, and participate in, discusions as we so choose or don't.

As a donations driven website, the people that might stay and donate are people that believe the birther nonsense. If I convinced an Obama voting democrat that illegal immigration is wrong, and that is the only issue we can stand together on, what impression do you think they would get? Would they stay or go to a neutral site like Numbers?

[quote:2lskud4m]Further, I think I can point out where even you yourself have posted....many times....topics which are completely unrelated to illegal immigration and regularly participate in unrelated discussions.

Well of course I have as well as everybody else. The difference is I am not trying to beat a dead horse like the BS issue. Again, 65+ pages of a conspiracy theory, and maybe 2-3 pages on an illegal immigration issue.

And, there is nothing wrong with that. But please, do not.....when it's convenient for you to try and rid a board of a topic you do not care for.....use the "purity of the issue" argument as a talking point. It makes you appear hypocritical.

First, thanks for the insult. I stand by my beliefs. What is hypocritical about that? I would be a hypocrite if I didn't stand up and call BS when I see it.

I said it once and I will say it again, the Obama BS issues on this site is causing a loss in possible donations for Alipac.[/b]


And this just reeks of coercion, quite frankly. Somehow, I expected better from you I said it once and I will say it again, the Obama BS issues on this site is causing a loss in possible donations for Alipac.[/b]


And this just reeks of coercion, quite frankly. Somehow, I expected better from you jshhmr

Coercion? It's the truth. There is only a small minority of people that believe the BS is fake, the rest thinks the birthers are nuts. Again, I will say if I were an Obama voting democrat, but just recently figured out illegal immigration is bad and wants to get involved but still holds on to other democratic ideals, as soon as I saw 65+ pages of the birther issue, I would laugh and move on instead of joining and donating. How can you not see that?[/quote:2lskud4m]

JS, If William wants to remove the BC postings section from this website he has every right to do so and I will abide by his decision. However, Alipac's numbers are growing for a good reason. People come here to see and voice ideas, hear the truth and demand that our government return to a government of the people and of the constitution.

Originally Posted by MW

mapwife wrote:

And what does this have to do with ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION and THE PRICE OF TEA IN CHINA????

This doesn't belong on the ALIPAC News board. There is a category for off topic news and discussions if you feel the need to perpetuate the birther myth.

This is for the forum called "Other news and topics."

I agree 100%. Until someone actually proves otherwise, this is all conspiracy theory.


TexasBorn wrote:

[quote:391l6hkl]You shouldn't take offense at the investigations into Obama's legitimacy. Perhaps you even voted for him but you shouldn't feel guilty for that mistake. Millions of others have fallen for Obama as well.

I'm not so sure mapwife has taken offense about the continued questions on Obama's legitimacy. More than likely she, like myself, is tired of seeing this topic forced into the discussion forums that are supposed to be for issues concerning immigration. IMO, until someone proves otherwise, the Obama birth question is nothing more than a conspiracy theory. If something legitimate arises from the discussion, it'll be all over the 6 o'clock news.

Oh, and I didn't vote for Obama, nor do I support him or his illegal alien administation! [/quote:391l6hkl]

MW,

"...If something legitimate arises from the discussion, it'll be all over the 6 o'clock news..."

Do you mean the same MSM news that so thoroughly and honestly covered the thousands of Tea Parties all over the country? THAT news?