Thread: Broward sheriff's captain who gave initial order to 'stage' not enter Stoneman Dougla

Broward sheriff's captain who gave initial order to 'stage' not enter Stoneman Douglas is ID'd

By Matt Finn | Fox News
5 hours ago

Multiple sources told Fox News that Captain Jan Jordan directed responding deputies and units to “stage” or form a “perimeter” outside Stoneman Douglas High School, instead of rushing immediately into the building.

Multiple sources told Fox News that Captain Jan Jordan directed responding deputies and units to “stage” or form a “perimeter” outside Stoneman Douglas High School, instead of rushing immediately into the building. (File)

The Broward County Sheriff’s Office has identified to Fox News the captain who, according to sources, directed responding deputies and units to “stage” or form a “perimeter” outside Stoneman Douglas High School, instead of rushing immediately into the building, as the mass shooting unfolded there.

Multiple law enforcement and official sources said the commands in the initial moments after Nikolas Cruz allegedly opened fire would go against all training which instructs first responders to “go, go, go” until the shooter is neutralized. As law enforcement arrived, the shooter’s identity and exact location were still unknown.

Multiple sources told Fox News that Captain Jan Jordan was the commanding officer on scene. In an email responding to Fox News’ request for information, a BSO spokesperson wrote, “Capt. Jordan’s radio call sign is 17S1.”

The massacre on February 14 killed 17 people and wounded 16 others.

Sources told Fox News it was Jordan giving the commands because they were recorded on the dispatch logs coming from Jordan’s radio insignia 17S1, or “Seventeen Sierra One.”

Broward deputy sheriff demands 'total transparency' in department's response to the high school shooting.

In the email, the BSO spokesperson also shed some light on the allegations against Jordan’s commands writing, “Captain Jordan asked if a perimeter had been established after the shooter left the building.”

Fox News replied to BSO with more follow-up questions, but has not heard back despite multiple requests into its media relations office. BSO’s explanation about the perimeter command might indicate, as Fox News reported, that Jordan knew more information than other law enforcement on scene, and her commands to stage and form a perimeter may have been valid.

BSO also did not respond to Fox News’ initial request for comment about Jordan’s alleged commands to “stage” outside, setting up an area to keep first responders safe before police secure a violent scene. Multiple law enforcement sources said that command also would have been detrimental to victims inside the building because it would have stalled officers.

“You cannot disregard what Sierra Unit says. They are the commanding unit,” a law enforcement source told Fox News. “When she says she needs a perimeter, every other deputy responding to the scene takes perimeter.”

Several law enforcement sources said BSO’s explanation that Jordan asked for a perimeter did not make sense because anything Jordan was saying on the radio would have been considered a command -- not a question.

“You don’t ask for a perimeter over air. She is the captain. She is the leader. Who would she be asking?” one law enforcement source said.

Dispatch logs obtained by Fox News appeared to show that at 2:32 p.m., roughly 11 minutes after Cruz opened fire, the first command to form a perimeter was issued, “17S1... NEED PERIMETER.”

A copy of Broward County’s active-shooter policy even appeared to indicate that responding deputies and officers may enter the building without permission and should seek to neutralize the shooter until objectives are met — for example, if the shooter is contained. The policy did not appear to indicate a priority for staging or a perimeter.

The Broward County Sheriff's office is performing its own investigation into the timeline of the day of the shooting. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement is also investigating BSO and the Florida Senate subpoenaed the Broward County Public Schools and responding law enforcement agencies for all records and information related to the shooting.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/05...as-is-idd.html

Peterson and the other 3 Deputies were following orders.

Originally Posted by Judy

Peterson and the other 3 Deputies were following orders.

I'm not sure if this covers Peterson.

Multiple sources told Fox News that Captain Jan Jordan was the commanding officer on scene.

Presumably, that was when the other three arrived.

You think she would have ordered 3 Deputies to say outside if she's ordered Peterson to go inside by himself? Why would she do that?

Originally Posted by Judy

You think she would have ordered 3 Deputies to say outside if she's ordered Peterson to go inside by himself? Why would she do that?

No! Peterson was on the scene from the first minute, before the other three arrived. He was on his own until they arrived. So his actions would theoretically be autonomous until she became involved. He was either acting according to department policy, which might contradict national procedures, or acting on his own adrenaline. I wouldn't group him with the other three until I hear more specifics.

The other three were under her orders as they arrived.

Originally Posted by Judy

Peterson and the other 3 Deputies were following orders.

You're wrong, jtdc is correct. Peterson was already on site prior to the captain arriving. His actions are on him, and only him. He was there when the first shot was fired and should have reacted accordingly, which he didn't.

Hmm, this conversation seems vaguely familiar (round and round we go).

Originally Posted by jtdc

No! Peterson was on the scene from the first minute, before the other three arrived. He was on his own until they arrived. So his actions would theoretically be autonomous until she became involved. He was either acting according to department policy, which might contradict national procedures, or acting on his own adrenaline. I wouldn't group him with the other three until I hear more specifics.

The other three were under her orders as they arrived.

Okay, we'll wait for more specifics.

Originally Posted by MW

You're wrong, jtdc is correct. Peterson was already on site prior to the captain arriving. His actions are on him, and only him. He was there when the first shot was fired and should have reacted accordingly, which he didn't.

Hmm, this conversation seems vaguely familiar (round and round we go).

The captain wasn't at the site, she never was at the site. She issuing orders over the radio system, the one Peterson was seen talking on by the witnesses who accused him of "hiding behind the column to the stairwell, gun raised and talking on the radio".

jtdc and I are waiting for specifics.

Originally Posted by Judy

Okay, we'll wait for more specifics.

There will be no new facts to come out that will absolve Peterson. Everything on his involvement is already out, including his personal excuses.

Then we'll be waiting a long time.