Thread: Calif. Wrestles With Budget Shortfall

Congrats to you, NoBueno! Aren't you just soooo excited about leaving that hell-hole of a state once and for all? Believe me, I was all excited in 2006 when I left Mexifornia.

Here are the stats (make sure you go to the link coz there are charts):

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=56876

California exodus turns to stampede
High taxes drive jobs, people from one state to another--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted: February 20, 2008
8:00 pm Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily

WASHINGTON – California, which once lured Americans from near and far, is now driving out millions of the most productive residents – including high percentages of the most affluent.

"When California faced a Mount Everest-sized $14 billion deficit in 2003, one of the major causes for the red ink was the stampede of millionaire households from the state," says a report called "Rich States, Poor States" by economists Arthur Laffer and Stephen Moore. "Out of the 25,000 or so seven-figure-income families, more than 5,000 left in the early 2000s, and the loss of their tax payments accounted for about half the budget hole."

And it's not just the rich leaving.

Based on data from moving companies, California had the second-highest domestic population out-flow of any state in 2005, according to the report, "despite the beautiful weather, beaches, and mountains."

The bad news for California is that it faces a $14 billion deficit this year, despite boasting one of the highest tax burdens in the nation.

The report, published by the American Legislative Exchange Council shows jobs are not just leaving the country – they are moving from state to state, with the population following.

"States are in direct competition with each other for human capital and business investment. State governments that think they can attract jobs and people, and grow their economies, by taxing their citizens at a higher rate than their neighbors are sadly mistaken," said Democratic Arkansas state Sen. Steve Faris, ALEC's 2008 national chairman. "Legislators should take a close look at where their state ranks in this book and use it as a tool to help them improve."

Moore told the Heartland Institute he is discouraged that government officials at all levels apparently have failed to recognize the benefits of tax cuts, spending controls, and open markets.

"We've gone from $25 trillion to $56 trillion of asset value in 25 years," said Moore. "Policies that were enacted in the 1980s to bring this about are being reversed."

Laffer's "Laffer Curve" analysis of tax rates, economic growth, and government revenues shaped the tax-cutting policies of the Reagan administration in the 1980s. Laffer served as a member of President Ronald Reagan's Economic Policy Advisory Board for both of Reagan's terms as president. Moore is founder of the Club for Growth and senior economics writer and editorial board member at the Wall Street Journal.

The report provides economic competitiveness rankings for all 50 states based on 16 policy variables with a proven effect on the migration of people and investment capital in and out of states. States with the lowest tax, spending, and regulatory burdens win the competitiveness contest. These are primarily in the South and Southwest regions of the nation.

According to the findings, a record 8 million Americans moved from one state to another in 2006, revealing which states have the most dynamic and desirable economies and which are "has-been" states, according to Laffer and Moore.

Yes EX OC. I have finally thrown in the towel here in So Cal. It breaks my heart as I was born and raised here. But the state that I have known and loved has been gone for a very long time now and I do not see it getting any better anytime soon.

I went to college in Idaho and we have considered that state as well. I was in Caldwell and remember how different life was in that state. At 21. I really didn't appreciate the slower pace of life that Idaho had to offer. Now, I cannot wait to experience that once again. I think we may end up south, but Idaho is still a possibility.

This was almost 20 years ago now and I still remember to this day there were quite a few illegals in Caldwell even back then. Not sure what it looks like now as I have not been back in a very long time.

Fast forward 15 years later and look were we are. The state is full of illegals, anchor babies, and politicians with hispanic last names who are absolutely determined to turn this state over to their beloved illegal invaders.

But who will subsidize them? Nunez? Villaraigosa? Murguia? More and more $$ is leaving California, the illegals are used to freebies. Do they turn on their benefactors when the freebies dry up?

Originally Posted by miguelina

Fast forward 15 years later and look were we are. The state is full of illegals, anchor babies, and politicians with hispanic last names who are absolutely determined to turn this state over to their beloved illegal invaders.

But who will subsidize them? Nunez? Villaraigosa? Murguia? More and more $$ is leaving California, the illegals are used to freebies. Do they turn on their benefactors when the freebies dry up?

That's eactly what is going to happen, these IA will revolt when the freebies dry up. There will be chaos just like what I believed happened in France with their immigration problem. When the jobs dried up they took it to the streets and set cars on fire and used violence. La Raza better watch out as well as these other IA lovers because these people have no loyalty, their mentality is you're only good to them when you're giving them handouts and once the handouts stop so does their loyalty and they will turn on them. These Pro illegal groups have helped to get the IA what they want through violence and so they perpetuate the hostility that these IA have for US citizens and they now know they can get what they want through their demands and threats of violence.

But who will subsidize them? Nunez? Villaraigosa? Murguia? More and more $$ is leaving California, the illegals are used to freebies. Do they turn on their benefactors when the freebies dry up?

I honestly do not know what will happen. Nothing would surprise me in regards to the illegal invaders and their supporters. If history is any indication, they will probably be marching in the streets while waving the flag of mexico, demanding more freebies.

I do know these illegals have a dangerous sense of entitlement that has been aided by too many of our politicians.

When the funds are gone, the funds are gone. Illegal's need to realize that there feebies are about to dry up. Politicans can stand up and support them all they want. When the money is gone, the money is gone. Maybe they can send in the troops to clean up California after they all go loco and destroy the place.
I think we need to keep a really close eye on California and put it out their how the politicans have ruined California due to their own greed. California is a prime example of what will happen to all states if Mexico isn't roped in tight and deported.

Originally Posted by Paige

When the funds are gone, the funds are gone. Illegal's need to realize that there feebies are about to dry up. Politicans can stand up and support them all they want. When the money is gone, the money is gone. Maybe they can send in the troops to clean up California after they all go loco and destroy the place.
I think we need to keep a really close eye on California and put it out their how the politicans have ruined California due to their own greed. California is a prime example of what will happen to all states if Mexico isn't roped in tight and deported.

I wonder about the tax payers in Los ANgeles and how they feel. Villaragoisa knows he is only in power because of these IA and their family since most are anchor babies who now are of age from the 1st amnesty but how long can the city sustain the freebies to these people? They've already tried driving out black people with great success now these IA are going to drive out the one who foot the bill for their freebies. ALl I can say is the national guard better be ready because that's what it's going to come to. I really believe that the national guard will be forced to come in and then for awhile there will be check points where you need a valid ID only a US citizen can get and then there will be mass deportations both willing and unwilling.

Originally Posted by NoBueno

Yes EX OC. I have finally thrown in the towel here in So Cal. It breaks my heart as I was born and raised here. But the state that I have known and loved has been gone for a very long time now and I do not see it getting any better anytime soon.

I went to college in Idaho and we have considered that state as well. I was in Caldwell and remember how different life was in that state. At 21. I really didn't appreciate the slower pace of life that Idaho had to offer. Now, I cannot wait to experience that once again. I think we may end up south, but Idaho is still a possibility.

This was almost 20 years ago now and I still remember to this day there were quite a few illegals in Caldwell even back then. Not sure what it looks like now as I have not been back in a very long time.

NoBueno, my advice: skip Caldwell. It is not the same. Lots of illegals there. Crime is up. Same with Nampa.

Wherever you do end up, make sure you research your new city by looking online at census sites. That's what we did. There are many sites that will give you demographics. That's how we chose our city and we are happy here.

You are right, SoCal is not the same anymore. It is forever changed. I lived there for 21 years (in the same city) and saw it literally transform before my eyes. Like you, I gave up the idea that it will get better in my lifetime, so best to move. No regrets so far. In fact, it gives me great pleasure to read that CA keeps going down the drain. That reaffirms that we made the right decision to leave. You won't regret it, NoBueno.

NoBueno --

SoCal is getting worse!! Did you see the LA Times article about a relative of Villagriosa running for the state assembly?? Arrrrggghhhhhhh!!! Get out while you can, Mexifornians!!!

Originally Posted by gemini282

I wonder about the tax payers in Los ANgeles and how they feel.

The realistic ones are getting out. The brain dead liberal ones think it is their duty to give almost everything they have to the illegals. I am not kidding, there really are Americans who feel this way, they have feeling of guilt for being white and successful and want to wash their guilt away by giving as much as possible to foreign invaders.

I suppose if there are any in your area you can tell them if that's how they feel they should move to LA!