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    Clinton and Obama: The Worst and Best Democratic Party in Ye

    Clinton and Obama: The Worst and Best Thing to Happen to the Democratic Party in Years

    Mon, 08/17/2009 - 17:13 — dlindorff

    Bill Clinton was the worst thing to happen to the Democratic Party and to progressives since that racist warmonger Woodrow Wilson won the presidency and dragged the US into the utterly pointless and incredibly bloody First World War.

    Clinton, by posing as a progressive, confused and undermined, and ultimately betrayed the liberal/progressive wing of the party, shattering what was left of the New Deal coalition and leaving the American left adrift and riven by the conflict between those who thought the Democratic Party was the only viable vehicle for progressive reform and those who thought it was hopelessly in the grip of corporate interests.

    Barack Obama offers the hope of bringing that era of debilitating confusion to an end.

    Not because he is the Great Black Hope of progressives, but because he has taken the concept of selling out to corporate interests and compromising with Republicans to such remarkable heights that progressives hopefully can no longer be confused about the irretrievably corrupted nature of the Democratic Party.

    On virtually every issue of importance, President Obama has sided with corporate interests and the wealthy.

    On the issue of war and peace, he has sided with the military-industrial complex, with a policy of permanent occupation of Iraq and endless war in Afghanistan, as well as continued funding of the country’s colossal armory of death, from strategic missiles and submarines to aircraft-carrier-group armadas to high-tech fighter squadrons and space weaponry.

    On civil liberties, he has sided with the police state, supporting continuation of the Bush/Cheney administration’s insidious National Security Agency spying program, defended military spying within the US, and refused to prosecute obvious abuses by the prior administration.

    On torture, the Obama administration is continuing the imprisonment and torture of captives in Afghanistan and elsewhere around the world at Bagram Air Base and, probably, at other secret sites, and instead of closing Guantanamo as promised, is looking into transferring that hellhole of torture and abuse to one or several sites in the mainland US.

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    Re: Clinton and Obama: The Worst and Best Democratic Party i

    Barack Obama offers the hope of bringing that era of debilitating confusion to an end.
    This is so wrong!

    There is NO figuring out what Government is doing to business and us.

    They want to ruin Capitalism!
    I've read it many times
    Obama is an evil person with an evil staff.

    REPARATIONS!

    If you notice, small business and big business is mostly white people.
    He want to crush whites so Blacks can rise up or we can meet them at the bottom.

    Don't try to figure out what they are doing ........ just face it,
    he wants to ruin America and distribute the wealth around the world,
    not around America.
    He is giving America's money away as fast as he can.
    The rulers will be Unions and them in the Whitehouse.
    I'm not sure that Congress and The Senate know what he is doing ON PURPOSE!

    Look at his history! Look at his actions!
    He hates White people and Jews! IMHO



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    Is this guy nuts?
    Civil disobedience accomplishes exactly what? What kind of badge of valor is getting hit by tear gas?
    No we can't go there at all, as next thing you know, illegals will up their civil disobedience during their marches for immediate amnesty. After all, if Americans are doing it, it must be okay. Protests incorporating civil obedience can easily turn into riots, but I assume this pundit did not remember the riots in Watts and DC in the 1960s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vortex
    Is this guy nuts?
    Civil disobedience accomplishes exactly what? What kind of badge of valor is getting hit by tear gas?
    No we can't go there at all, as next thing you know, illegals will up their civil disobedience during their marches for immediate amnesty. After all, if Americans are doing it, it must be okay. Protests incorporating civil obedience can easily turn into riots, but I assume this pundit did not remember the riots in Watts and DC in the 1960s.
    Notice that all the violence so far was from Union menbers and not The elderly or Tea Party people....
    Of course the MSM won't report it unless it is not their side..
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