Thread: Cops Execute US Marine On Porch Steps In Delaware

The "position" Derek was in, remember, was that of wallowing helplessly in his own vomit, trying to overcome the cumulative effects of three completely unjustified Taser attacks.

I am stunned by this whole episode. Why Taser someone over and over again, who obviously posed no threat? He wasn't armed, although someone placed pepper spray and a switchblade in his pocket. He begged over and over not to let the children see what was being done to him.
I KNOW that sometimes the cops are the bad guys. It appears that they were the bad guys in this situation anyway. That young man just finished serving our country in Iraq. This was no way to say "thank you and welcome home".

I won't go into much detail but my sister and brother-n-law are involved in state police brutality case.

They are both innocent and were victims. After it's over, I will go into more detail. I'm sure it will be in the papers when all is done.

I have been saying for a long time now, I have more of a fear of the cops then I do for any bad guy out there! How is it that our border guards are in jail for trying ot do the right thing and these gestapo like thugs who pose as cops, get away with more and more outright murders?

Absolutely disgraceful!

Please keep us posted on the story as it develops.

Reminds me of the Scott case in California back in the 1990s. There was pretty clear evidence that the raid on Scott's property was undertaken only after the local and federal government stormtroopers began salivating over the potential seizure of the Scott estate, for which records show that they had commissioned multiple appraisals before busting into his home unannounced while he slept and shooting him dead as he emerged from his bedroom holding a handgun (because he thought he was being burglarized). Scott's crime? There was none. The stormtroopers had alleged that a low-level overflight by a DEA reconnaissance craft had identified marijuana plants growing on a remote corner of the large estate. No marijuana was ever found. What's more, even if the marijuana had existed, there is no proof that the property owner had anything to do with it. I can think of an example off the top of my head where an actor friend of mine found marijuana growing on his ranch near Monterrey, Ca., and eventually determined (when he caught them red-handed carrying the stuff across his property on a burro train) that it was being grown and harvested by forestry service officers from the neighboring national forest.

Originally Posted by UnemployedAmerican

Originally Posted by Hylander_1314

Isn't that ironic? Maybe send the Delaware cops to Iran. Or do they fear us more than foreign invaders?

Can you say Ruby Ridge, Waco?
(just saying they were executed, denied due process.)

Hylander,

Your comment about the picture made me go back and look at it again. Did anyone else notice that those 'police' have better body armor than our soldiers in Iraq???

Been noticing for years m'friend.

Yeah, and I'm a crackpot because I think the same as you my friend.

Ok, I dug up a couple past stories here is a press release form the police department that murdered Derek J. Hale, USMC, ret. I notice their press release left out the fact that he was a Marine.


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Delaware State Police News Release

Sergeant Melissa Zebley
November 21, 2006

Dover-Colonel Thomas F. Mac Leish, Superintendent of the Delaware State Police, and Colonel W. Steven Flaherty, Superintendent of the Virginia State Police, have, jointly and separately, reviewed the circumstances surrounding the issuance of a Virginia search warrant for Derek J. Hale’s home. Both Superintendents have confirmed that there was never any false information exchanged by either agency in the investigation of Derek J. Hale, or transmitted between the agencies in order to obtain the search warrant. Hale resisted arrest and was shot and killed by Wilmington Police on November 6, 2006. Hale was at the center of a long term narcotics trafficking investigation that the Delaware State Police was conducting which is still ongoing. Officers from the Wilmington Police Department were attempting to take Hale into custody in the 1400 block of West 6th Street of Wilmington under Delaware’s warrantless arrest law (11 Delaware Code Section 1904).

The Virginia State Police subsequently applied for and obtained a search warrant for Hale’s Manassas, Virginia home on November 7, 2006. This search was conducted independently of the Delaware State Police and not at the request of the Delaware State Police. The warrant was executed professionally and thoroughly by Virginia troopers who were conducting their own independent investigation of Hale. The search warrant was also conducted under the authority of the Virginia courts and in accordance with all aspects of the law in the Commonwealth.

Colonel Mac Leish commented: "At no time did a Delaware Trooper provide any inaccurate information to the Virginia State Police concerning Derek Hale.” Colonel W. Steven Flaherty also confirmed this fact after speaking with the Virginia case agent.

The Virginia State Police and the Delaware State Police are highly-principled, well-trained and ethical organizations which serve their citizens with a great deal of professionalism, integrity and fairness. Now is not the time to allow sensationalism or speculation to form public opinion about these cases. The Delaware State Police and Virginia State Police are proud to serve our citizenry, and will continue their missions of doing justice and operating transparently within the bounds of the law, and with due respect for the rights of officers and involved parties. We thank the public for your continued support and encourage the media to be equally fair and vigilant, but also be respectful that we cannot and will not reveal the complete facts of the investigation until it is appropriate and lawful.

Colonel Thomas F. MacLeish

Superintendent

Delaware State Police Police

Colonel W. Steven Flaherty

Superintentendent

Virginia State Police
http://www.delawaretroopers.org/vnews/d ... fbe41d0f9f

Now flashback to 2007, March 23. Check out the alligations. there is no doubt here who the real criminals are and it's not the Murdered Marine.


Family Sues Police In Shooting Death Of Former Marine

POSTED: 11:59 am EDT March 23, 2007


WILMINGTON, Del. -- The family of a former Marine who was shot to death by police during the investigation of the Pagans Motorcycle Club filed a federal lawsuit accusing state and local police of violating his constitutional rights.

According to the lawsuit, police left Derek Hale, 25, of Manassas, Va., incapacitated and vomiting all over himself after shooting him with three Taser shocks as he sat on a porch step last November. Then, a Wilmington police officer shot him three times, the lawsuit stated.

Hale's widow and parents filed the lawsuit on Friday, alleging that police failed to identify themselves and used excessive force.
Click here to find out more!

According the lawsuit, Hale was weakened by the Taser shocks and physically unable to comply with police officers’ orders to raise his hands.

The family also claims Hale was house-sitting for another Pagans member when he was shot.

Police searched the house two days earlier and arrested the owner following an 18-month investigation of the Pagans.

The lawsuit also alleged that after the shooting, Virginia state police illegally searched Hale's home after Delaware police falsely told them that an arrest warrant for Hale had been issued.

Another Recent Article:
http://www.delawareonline.com

Witnesses: Police lacked cause to kill suspect

'He didn't deserve to be shot. He wasn't any kind of threat.'
By LEE WILLIAMS, The News Journal
Posted Thursday, March 22, 2007

The 25-year-old man shot to death last week by a Wilmington officer never threatened police, according to five witnesses working nearby and a sixth witness standing next to the victim when the confrontation began.

Derek J. Hale, a U.S. Marine who served two tours in Iraq, died on the front steps at 1403 W. Sixth St. after a Wilmington police officer fired three .40-caliber rounds into his chest. He was killed after receiving multiple shocks from electronic Tasers.

"He didn't deserve to be shot. He wasn't any kind of threat," said Fred Mixson, 53, a contractor working in the home next door who watched the shooting unfold from across the narrow street. From the initial confrontation with police to the fatal shooting, only two to three minutes elapsed, witnesses said.

Four members of Mixson's work crew witnessed the shooting from a variety of angles and distances, although Mixson was the only one interviewed by investigators after the shooting and the only one willing to allow his name to be used for this article.

But in interviews with The News Journal last week, all five said Hale did not pose a threat.

"No matter what his background was, he didn't deserve that," Mixson said. "They had him surrounded. They could have grabbed him."

The News Journal canvassed the neighborhood. Residents across the street and living next door said they either were away or saw nothing of the events.

Police said Hale, who had recently joined the Pagans Motorcycle Club, was a "person of interest" in a recent drug investigation conducted by the Delaware State Police. The U.S. Department of Justice classifies the Pagans as an outlaw motorcycle gang with a history of violence and drug offenses, but Hale, police have said, has no arrest record in Delaware. At the time of his death, Hale had a valid permit in Virginia to carry concealed weapons, according to the clerk of Circuit Court in Manassas.

Concealed-carry permits in Virginia are issued only to people who never have been convicted of a felony, narcotics or a domestic violence charge and who have no history of mental illness or substance abuse.

Two days before the shooting, officers searched the residence as part of a wide-ranging drug and weapons investigation and had charged the owner. According to a written statement by state police, Hale was seen Nov. 6 moving items from inside the house to a vehicle and officers "had reason to believe he was preparing to flee." Mixson said he saw Hale place a large Tupperware container into the vehicle.

"It was during the attempt to take Hale into custody outside of the residence that a confrontation ensued, and Hale was fatally shot," police said. Hale never displayed a weapon, police said, but a spokesman for the Wilmington police said officers found a can of pepper spray and a switchblade knife in Hale's pockets after the shooting.

Hale's stepbrother, Jason Singleton, who lives in Missouri, never knew his brother to carry a switchblade. "The last time I saw Derek, he had a small Swiss Army knife. To my knowledge, I've never seen Derek with anything like a switchblade."

In a written statement issued last week, Wilmington police Master Sgt. Steven Elliott said Hale was shot three times because an "officer in close proximity to the developments feared for the safety of his fellow officers and believed that the suspect was in a position to pose an imminent threat. That officer then utilized deadly force."

Wilmington police denied a request from The News Journal for their use-of-force policy, which addresses how and when officers may use deadly force and less-than-lethal weapons such as Tasers. They cited an August 2005 Freedom of Information request in which the Attorney General's Office found that the policies are not public documents.

Asked if Hale ever threatened the officers, Elliott said in an interview last week: "In a sense, when he did not comply with their commands" to show him his hands. Wilmington police Chief Michael Szczerba did not respond to calls, e-mails or messages left with his staff about the shooting, although Elliott handled press calls after the incident.

Friday night, John Rago, spokesman for Wilmington Mayor James M. Baker, issued a "joint statement" attributed to Baker, Szczerba and Public Safety Director James N. Mosley.

"The incident that occurred in the 1400 Block of West 6th Street is being investigated internally by both the Wilmington Police Department and City Solicitor's Office," the statement reads. "All information from those investigations will be shared with the Delaware Attorney General's Office which conducts its own investigation and issues its own determination of the action of the officer involved. This is standard practice with regard to shootings involving police officers to ensure that all matters related to the incident are given a thorough review."

The News Journal informed city and police officials that it had received eyewitness accounts that questioned the need for Hale's shooting. In his written statement, Rago said: "If the News Journal, or any other organization or individual, has information regarding this incident that can be helpful to the investigation, it is recommended that they present that information to the Wilmington Police Department, the City Solicitor's Office or to the Delaware Attorney General's Office to aid in the thoroughness of the investigation."

On Monday, Nov. 6, Mixson arrived at the 1400 block of W. Sixth St. just before 4 p.m., quitting time for his work crew, which was renovating one of the row houses next door to the shooting.

Mixson parked across the narrow street from 1403 and was standing by the driver's door of his work van when a black SUV sped up the wrong way of the one-way street and screeched to a halt in the middle of the road.

Several police officers jumped out and ran to where Hale was sitting on the steep steps of 1403, approximately six feet higher than the sidewalk.

Mixson and his crew had barely noticed Hale before he was confronted by police. Hale, they said, was chatting with Sandra Lopez and two children at the top of a 10-step concrete stoop. Hale was seated on the third step from the top. Mixson and another witness were standing across the street from 1403, while others were on the sidewalk in front of a row house adjacent to the site of the shooting.

The officers ordered Hale to take his hands out of the front pockets of his hooded sweat shirt.

"About a second later, they Tasered him," Mixson recalled. "He was just sitting there. He didn't do anything."

A compressed air charge in the Taser cartridge launched two metal barbs, attached to wires trailing back to the hand-held device, at a speed of more than 160 feet per second. On impact, a strong electric charge was carried into Hale's body, which caused what the manufacturer, Taser International, describes as "an immediate loss of the person's neuromuscular control and the ability to perform coordinated action for the duration of the impulse."

The witnesses said Hale shook violently from the charge, as if sitting on an electric chair. His right hand came out of the front of his sweat shirt and was shaking violently.

Seconds later, police repeated their command for Hale to show them his hands, and they Tasered him a second time.

Mixson and others said Hale, who was still seated on the steps, rolled onto his left side and vomited into a flower bed.

"My brother yelled at the police that this was overkill. That this was crazy," Mixson said. "They told him to 'shut ... up,' or they'd show him overkill."

Hale rolled back to his right, into a sitting position, still shaking, and police Tasered him a third time, Mixson said.

Lopez, who lived at the home where Hale was killed and was talking to Hale when police arrived, told her attorney Hale was trying to show police his hands. Lopez was standing with her two young children until police ordered her to move.

Originally Posted by PinestrawGuys

Hylander,

Your comment about the picture made me go back and look at it again. Did anyone else notice that those 'police' have better body armor than our soldiers in Iraq???

Yesterday my hubby mentioned to me that he was in Borders book store and saw this book about a group of mercenaries called Black water and it wasn't fiction. The books says that the mercenaries were in New Orleans and he described the outfits they were wearing....It reminded me about this thread so I pulled the pic up and showed it to my hubby. I said, what do you think about the uniforms these guys are wearing? Do you think it could be the same organization? I did a keyword search and there is information about BLACKWATER all over the web. And it is startling.